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Old 2008-03-20, 05:06
Arrow2brain Arrow2brain is offline
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So I've never had the opportunity (until now) to do mescaline. Me and my friend just recently went to a local plant store and bought a 9-pound san pedro cactus, cut the thorns off, and peeled the waxy coating off. I cut off a tiny piece and savoured the flavor in my mouth; bitter, but not too bad. Kinda like a bell pepper. I don't have any way to boil it at my house due to a shitty roomate, so I figured I could be man enough and chomp down on a ~1.5lb cutting thats a little over a foot.

Shit. I was wrong.

I've tasted some crazy, nasty shit in my life, but nothing as bad as this. I could barely get two mouthfulls down before I realized that I'd have to get some other way to ingest it or I'd puke. I decided to cut it into tiny bits, small enough to swallow whole. It worked with no nausea, but it took me 30 minutes to eat 1/5 of it, so I said FUCK IT. I threw that nasty shit in a blender and added some sprite and lemon juice.

And I just can't drink it. I've been trying to ingest it since 9pm, my stomach feels like complete shit, its only about 2/3 gone, and I don't feel the slightest effects of the mescaline.

Are there any ways to mask the unbelievably foul taste of this nastyass cactus flesh, or did I just fuck up by even attempting to eat it raw?
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Old 2008-03-20, 06:39
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If consuming it raw, I'd advise drying and the powdering. Turning fresh flesh into a slurry as you've done is the hard way. It tends to congeal into something resembling toxic green death flavor pudding.

Hold your nose and chug it. I suppose you could still attempt an extraction, but it probably wouldn't be worth it.
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Old 2008-03-20, 06:46
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Buy the ticket and take the ride.

Just down the shit and chase with a strong tasting non-alcoholic drink (fruit punch or somesuch comes to mind)
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Old 2008-03-20, 07:27
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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nothing will mask the taste

anything you add you will never be able to eat alone again because it will remind you of the pedro

white people just aren't suited for eating this nasty shit


now that you have it blended up theres not much you can do with it if you can't tolerate the taste, excluding an A/B extraction or a buttplugging cactus goo


next time slice it into strips and fan dry it. blend into a powder then gel cap about 100 grams; 50 to eat and 50 as backup
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Old 2008-03-20, 08:48
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There is no way you can eat that stuff, even dry and powdered and mixed with the strongest flavoured food. That stuff is the horriblest taste I can imagine and I feel sick just thinking about it. There is only one way to take that stuff and that's an extraction. Although if you can hold it down for 2 or so hours before puking its a very nice trip I found it left a nasty taste permanently in my mouth which ruined aspects of my trip.
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Old 2008-03-20, 17:56
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buttplugging cactus goo


KIESTERING YOUR CACTUS?

is there a special way to do this or any dangers i should know about? Someone should make an anal bioavailibility thread. If someone give me links or info, I'll compile this shit (pun intended).
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Old 2008-03-21, 18:33
Arrow2brain Arrow2brain is offline
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How in the HELL would you be able to buttplug 1.5 POUNDS of cactus splooge?
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Old 2008-03-21, 18:35
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next time slice it into strips and fan dry it. blend into a powder then gel cap about 100 grams; 50 to eat and 50 as backup

Sounds good. We still have about 6 pounds left to mess around with, how thick should the slices be, and how long do we need to let it sit and dry by a fan?
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Old 2008-03-21, 19:20
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How in the HELL would you be able to buttplug 1.5 POUNDS of cactus splooge?


i hate to sound like a flaming faggot, but i actually sat around and figured out how. My conclusion was that the only danger is not being able to get the fiber out of your asshole.
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Old 2008-03-21, 19:22
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You guys are pussies. I've eaten 18 inches before and I didn't even get queasy.

But heres a good method for people who don't have a strong constitution, and dont want to simmer it down to a shot:

Remove the spines, clean it, chop it up vertically and horizontally. Blend it well. Don't even leave one chunk unblended. Then add a whole thing of lemon juice into the mixture. It should be more like a liquid than a syrup now.

Down this stuff as fast as you can and chase it with ginger ale. Don't try to resist the bad taste, just dive into it mentally. It'll give you a sort of mental detachment from the taste.
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Old 2008-03-21, 19:36
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You guys are pussies. I've eaten 18 inches before and I didn't even get queasy.


and your calling me a pussy for wanting to take it in the ass?
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Old 2008-03-21, 19:50
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and your calling me a pussy for wanting to take it in the ass?

You're a dumbass if you think theirs anything wrong with taking suppository drugs. You can't even eat a few bites of cactus.

KIESTERING YOUR CACTUS?

is there a special way to do this or any dangers i should know about? Someone should make an anal bioavailibility thread

Doesn't that make you a bit of a hypocrite? you sound kind of interested in sticking a cactus up your ass, which is a stupid fucking idea.
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Old 2008-03-21, 21:03
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You're a dumbass if you think theirs anything wrong with taking suppository drugs. You can't even eat a few bites of cactus.



Doesn't that make you a bit of a hypocrite? you sound kind of interested in sticking a cactus up your ass, which is a stupid fucking idea.

i think you didn't understand what i was saying, first of all, i was making a joke. Second, i agree, cactus is disgusting, i'd rather use suppository form. I AM interested in sticking a cactus up my ass, fool. :D
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Old 2008-03-21, 23:47
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Sounds good. We still have about 6 pounds left to mess around with, how thick should the slices be, and how long do we need to let it sit and dry by a fan?

the slices should be no more than 1/4", though an 1/8th would be better. like bacon. if they are too thick they will not dry out in time and will either grow mold or lose potency.

lay the strips on a wire rack and dry them most of the way with a fan - it should take a few hours (overnight realistically). afterwards, crisp them in an oven at 150 or 200 F @ 25 mins +/-
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Old 2008-03-21, 23:48
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the slices should be no more than 1/4", though an 1/8th would be better. like bacon. if they are too thick they will not dry out in time and will either grow mold or lose potency.

lay the strips on a wire rack and dry them most of the way with a fan - it should take a few hours (overnight realistically). afterwards, crisp them in an oven at 150 or 200 F @ 25 mins +/-

Doesn't drying it decrease it's potency? that's what i've heard.
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Old 2008-03-21, 23:51
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Originally Posted by Arrow2brain
How in the HELL would you be able to buttplug 1.5 POUNDS of cactus splooge?


dilute it first with some water, filter, then reduce the volume on the stove. you can get it down to a syrup if you wish
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Old 2008-03-21, 23:54
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Doesn't drying it decrease it's potency? that's what i've heard.

it diminishes some of the alkaloids, i don't think it affects mescaline much though
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Old 2008-03-22, 04:10
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How in the HELL would you be able to buttplug 1.5 POUNDS of cactus splooge?


http://www.goatse.cz/hello.jpg

^^ this guy did it.
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Old 2008-03-22, 04:19
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I seriously laughed out loud through this whole post.

Does San Pedro really taste that bad?
Could you possibly dry it and put it into some sort of food? IE Stirfry?

I'm interested now.
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Old 2008-03-22, 06:25
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If you want to pluug it, just do a Mr SLave and sitt on the fucking thing with all your weight till your anus swallows it all.



Fear and Loathing
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Old 2008-03-22, 07:54
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If you want to pluug it, just do a Mr SLave and sitt on the fucking thing with all your weight till your anus swallows it all.



Fear and Loathing


if you dont take the spikes off it will increase the absorption.
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Old 2008-03-22, 19:05
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if you dont take the spikes off it will increase the absorption.

Pseudo-IM-cactus FTW!
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Old 2008-03-25, 17:35
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I boiled it in a saucepan with some water and a whole lemon cut up, but it was still the foulest smelling and tasting thing i've ever had took me a good 40 mins to drink that stuff like a mug full. I'd never tripped before though so i quite enjoyed it. Off topic but what else is mescaline in that one could buy at a smart/head shop?
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Old 2008-03-25, 17:41
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I boiled it in a saucepan with some water and a whole lemon cut up, but it was still the foulest smelling and tasting thing i've ever had took me a good 40 mins to drink that stuff like a mug full. I'd never tripped before though so i quite enjoyed it. Off topic but what else is mescaline in that one could buy at a smart/head shop?


Mescaline is the active chemical that makes you trip. It's Class A in the UK, so you won't be buying it in any headshops, unfortunately.
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Old 2008-03-25, 19:18
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I've seen some interesting recipes on Erowid, i can't be pissed right now to link to them but there is one that involves dicing up the cactus whole as is (I think) and boiling. Then you filter, boil again repeat slowly boiling until your left with a shots left. This sounds like the best way to me. If your worried about potency use two 12 inch cuttings.

I boiled up a 6 inch cutting down to a shots worth and I felt pretty groovy. The effects left pretty quickly but unfortunately i'd wasted my 2 12 inch ones in all sorts of nasty jello recipes and putting in salad. Er I still get queasy thinking about that slimy shit. Just man up boil it down into a shot glass and drink it like a shot of tequila.
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Old 2008-03-27, 18:47
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Mescaline is the active chemical that makes you trip. It's Class A in the UK, so you won't be buying it in any headshops, unfortunately.

No you won't be buying mescaline but you can buy products containing mescaline, when i bough San Pedro in a head shop in the UK the guy behind the counter was talking to me about it and said the active ingredient is mescaline. I was just wondering if theres anything other than San Pedro that contained mescaline which can be bough in head shops.
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Old 2008-03-27, 18:57
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Mescaline is the active chemical that makes you trip. It's Class A in the UK, so you won't be buying it in any headshops, unfortunately.

Only Mescaline is scheduled, the cacti containing mescaline however are uncontrolled. Like the old shroom laws.
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Old 2008-03-27, 18:58
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Does San Pedro really taste that bad?


Words can't actually describe it.

It is awful, by far the worst thing I have ever experienced, or wish to experience.

It makes me gag even thinking about the taste.
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Old 2008-03-27, 19:47
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Yea, one time i was going to make guacamole. The avocado wasn't ripe so i couldnt mash it. I blended it instead. It was fucking chunky and reminded me of san pedro; this made me gag. I had already mixed in the other ingredients so i couldnt blend it better. :(
 
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