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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-03-18, 20:17
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happyonehitter 
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Two OC questions
1) Purdue are the good ones, right? No gelling/other anti-abuse crap?
2) What's a good first dose for someone who weighs 130 pounds, and has some opiate experience (highest single doses taken previously are 750mgs codeine, 70mgs of hydro, 150mgs of morphine orally/90mgs plugged) but no tolerance ATM? The potentiation formula will be used.
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#2
 2008-03-18, 20:27
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Re: Two OC questions
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Originally Posted by happyonehitter
1) Purdue are the good ones, right? No gelling/other anti-abuse crap?
2) What's a good first dose for someone who weighs 130 pounds, and has some opiate experience (highest single doses taken previously are 750mgs codeine, 70mgs of hydro, 150mgs of morphine orally/90mgs plugged) but no tolerance ATM? The potentiation formula will be used.
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Purdue is legit, there are generics that work too.
Gelling isn't a problem for nasal/anal.
40mg FTW. My girls weight is in the high 2 digits and she takes 40. I also take 40 and we are non tolerants.
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#3
 2008-03-18, 20:41
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Re: Two OC questions
My girls weight is in the high 2 digits
lies
5c
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#4
 2008-03-18, 20:42
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Re: Two OC questions
lies
5c
She is a chronic drug user and is 5'1". By high 2 digits I mean 95-99lbs. Just because your girlfriend is a giant and is fat as fuck doesn't mean most girls are.
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#5
 2008-03-18, 20:49
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acexnx316 
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Re: Two OC questions
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Originally Posted by happyonehitter
1) Purdue are the good ones, right? No gelling/other anti-abuse crap?
2) What's a good first dose for someone who weighs 130 pounds, and has some opiate experience (highest single doses taken previously are 750mgs codeine, 70mgs of hydro, 150mgs of morphine orally/90mgs plugged) but no tolerance ATM? The potentiation formula will be used.
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Purdue Pharma is the originator/creator of Oxycontin and if you receive any round OC pills that contain the number (10, 20, 40 or 80) of the dose on one side, with either OC, CAN or MEX (I think) on the other, then you have a genuine Purdue OC; anything else is a generic. And as far as I know, the only generics that "gel up" are the Teva brand pills that are shaped like foot balls.
One generic that some people even like better than the original Purdue OC's are the one's manufactured by Watson. They look similar to the Purdues (Round and colored), one side of the pill has the number of the dose and on the other side, instead of the OC, CAN or MEX imprint it has the letters "ABG".
Another generic that some people like too are the one's manufactured by Endo. They look similar to the Purdues (Round and colored), one side of the pill has the number of the dose and on the other side, instead of the OC, CAN or MEX imprint it has an "E" followed by three numbers (Usually beginning with a "7").
Unfortunately, all of the Oxycontin generics have been discontinued, other than the shitty Teva foot balls that gel up [when you either crush them up and snort them or mix them with water]. So unless you find the Purdue OC's, I wouldn't even bother (Unless you don't mind chewing up and swallowing the pills as the route of administration; nothing wrong with that if you get a good buzz from it).
And to answer the second part of your question, I think a good dose for you to start at, seeing as how you do have an opiate tolerance of sorts, would be 40mg; not too much, not too little. Then after a few hours (2-4), if you want to up your high, take another 20mg or so.
Best way to do them (If they are the Purdues) is IV by far, but if you don't IV pills or anything at all, then you may want to try insufflating (Snorting) them after you have taken off their outside coating (Just the colored layer that comes off with saliva or water) and crushed them into a fine powder. Though some say that the bioavailabilty is even higher if you crush them up and parachute/swallow them. And some may even recommend parachuting 20mg and snorting the other 20mg, but I would definitely say that choose one or other and do the entire dose that route, at least the first dose, so it will hit you all at once.
Let us know if you have any other questions!
Take care and be safe!
ONE.
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#6
 2008-03-18, 21:00
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happyonehitter 
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Re: Two OC questions
Thanks for the help, but I'm pretty sure I don't have a tolerance. I haven't taken any opes for over 2 months. But if you still think 40mgs would be good, I'll give it a go.
I'm just asking because OC is very fucking rare over here and I'm going to be getting 120mgs, so I want to make the most of it (without IVing).
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#7
 2008-03-18, 21:18
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acexnx316 
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Re: Two OC questions
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Originally Posted by happyonehitter
Thanks for the help, but I'm pretty sure I don't have a tolerance. I haven't taken any opes for over 2 months. But if you still think 40mgs would be good, I'll give it a go.
I'm just asking because OC is very fucking rare over here and I'm going to be getting 120mgs, so I want to make the most of it (without IVing).
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Actually, 2 months if a very short period to go without use of opiates. I know of people (Personally) who have gone 3-4+ years without using and couldn't get the high they were looking for without banging at least 80mg of Oxy.
So to each their own, but I do know for a fact, that looking at your "using history/past" that you will indeed still have a tolerance and the threshold will still be near where you left off when you stopped using 2 months ago. With that in mind, I would definitely stick to 40mg as your first dose and go from there.
Take care and be safe!
ONE.
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#8
 2008-03-18, 21:50
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Re: Two OC questions
2) 750mgs codeine,
Yes Purdue are the good ones, the only generics available are not the shitty Teva's, but the Watson ABG's. And 750 mg's at once is a waste. Oh and it depends on how fucked up you want to get. Your tolerance hasn't gone down that much so I would take 50-60 mgs.
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#9
 2008-03-18, 22:08
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acexnx316 
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Re: Two OC questions
Yes Purdue are the good ones, the only generics available are not the shitty Teva's, but the Watson ABG's. And 750 mg's at once is a waste. Oh and it depends on how fucked up you want to get. Your tolerance hasn't gone down that much so I would take 50-60 mgs.
You should really check your sources, because yes, the "ABG" Watson generic Oxycontin pills ARE DISCONTINUED; as is every other generic make of Oxycontin, except for the Teva brand, because they actually use a release system that's different enough to not be considered very similar, if not the same as the original Oxycontin manufactured by Purdue.
The END.
ONE.
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#10
 2008-03-18, 22:08
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oxydose 
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Re: Two OC questions
1. Yes, those and Watson (ABG imprinted) do not gel...
2. 20mg parachuted, or snorted, but I find 20mg eating to be perfect for opiate niave folks, try that out then see how ya like snorting. I'm a full blown jankie mofo at this point but when my tolerence was low I used to get faded off crushing up and parachuting 20mg of the Purdue OCs...
have fun, don't over do it, OC is pretty powerful even when taken orally, peace...
-oCd
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#11
 2008-03-19, 01:21
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Re: Two OC questions
You should really check your sources, because yes, the "ABG" Watson generic Oxycontin pills ARE DISCONTINUED; as is every other generic make of Oxycontin, except for the Teva brand, because they actually use a release system that's different enough to not be considered very similar, if not the same as the original Oxycontin manufactured by Purdue.
The END.
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Yeah your right  even though Watson, makers of the generic ABG's, was named Purdue's exclusive distributor of authorized generic versions of Oxycontin. Purdue then proceeded to sue Teva and Endo for infringement. Teva and Endo agreed to stop producing generic Oxy's. IMPAX negotiated a temporary license that is possibly renewable. Damn that took a minute. Look your shit up man for christ sakes, that wasted 20 minutes of my life.
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#12
 2008-03-19, 01:37
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Re: Two OC questions
me and the op have 2 things in common, we both love opiates and we both have very little girlfriends :D only difference is my girl is n't aa crhonic drug user..
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#13
 2008-03-19, 01:45
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acexnx316 
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Re: Two OC questions
I'm sorry, I just had to come back here and post a message while I'm still high...
...after about 1 year of not touching anything but Suboxone (And having been off Suboxone for about 3.5 days), I just shot up about 60mg worth of Purdue Oxy (Three quarters of the green 80's) mixed with 50mg Diphenhydramine (In the same syringe), about 30min after I took 45mg of DXM and HOLY FUCK! What a rush that was! Time for bed now so when I get up in the morning I can do another! w00t!
I definitely prefer the two of the blue 30mg Roxi's over any Oxycontin's any day, because of all the wax fillers [in the OC's] that clog the filter when I am drawing the solution into the syringe; where the Roxi's just about dissolve completely allowing for a much cleaner and easier shot.
But hey... good luck with yours and let me know if you end up getting/doing them and how it was for you!
Take care and be safe!
ONE.
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#14
 2008-03-19, 01:49
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acexnx316 
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Re: Two OC questions
Yeah your right  even though Watson, makers of the generic ABG's, was named Purdue's exclusive distributor of authorized generic versions of Oxycontin. Purdue then proceeded to sue Teva and Endo for infringement. Teva and Endo agreed to stop producing generic Oxy's. IMPAX negotiated a temporary license that is possibly renewable. Damn that took a minute. Look your shit up man for christ sakes, that wasted 20 minutes of my life.
Yeah, I hear ya... it blows, but just because they have been discontinued, doesn't mean there aren't still a bunch going around from pharmacies that are either clearing out what they have left, or from a buddy who has a bottle from an old script that still have some left (I would be wary of this though, because depending how old they are and how they were stored, they could be starting to lose their potency, though probably won't be a very detectable amount, unless it's been a few years, or they were stored in direct sunliught, etc.).
ONE.
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#15
 2008-03-19, 07:58
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happyonehitter 
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Re: Two OC questions
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Originally Posted by eXo5
me and the op have 2 things in common, we both love opiates and we both have very little girlfriends :D only difference is my girl is n't aa crhonic drug user..
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One thing in common: we both love opiates. I don't have a girlfriend ATM, and never had one that's a chronic drug user.
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