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Old 2008-03-18, 18:33
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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Default Suboxone And Phenylanine

So Phenylanine is knownn for potentating opiates, but i was wondering if would potentate my suboxone. What about chitosan could that help too, or are boht of them strictly for drugs like morphine or H or do they work for drugs that affect those same receptors like kratom codeine suboxone and tramadol. Well if no one knows ill let you know in about a week.
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Old 2008-03-19, 05:41
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Default Re: Suboxone And Phenylanine

Phenylalanine-->more peripheral and central stores/release of dopamine/adrenaline. Think of phenylalanine as like adderal (amphetamine), only less CNS dopamine effects, and more peripheral ones.

I dunno if that answers u'r ?, but basically, think of phenyl like u'd think of adderall.
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Old 2008-03-19, 06:33
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D-phenylalanine has similar nutritional value to L-phenylalanine (10) and can lead to increases in PEA, though a different pathway than the L enantiomer (11). What makes the D-phenylalanine remarkable is its ability to inhibit the enzyme enkephalinase and prevent the degradation of endorphins (13). Endorphins induce analgesia (pain relief) and probably play a role in DLPA’s mood enhancing effects. Although D-phenylalanine appears to be ineffective by itself for reducing chronic pain (14), it can greatly pontentiate the pain relieving effects of both acupuncture and narcotic drugs such as morphine (15,16).

SO I was thinking of mixing some DL= Phenylalnine grapefruit juice and chitosan with my suboxone im getting tmrw. See if it increases the effects.
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Old 2008-03-19, 18:46
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Default Re: Suboxone And Phenylanine

oh, I'd forgotten that bit about the D isomer. NVM, I dunno how it'll go. Make sure to post back.
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Old 2008-03-19, 19:07
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Default Re: Suboxone And Phenylanine

Well i jsut went to the doctor and got prescribed suboxone. He also tried giving me trazadone and ritalin. Didnt really want those tho. Hes really cool better than any drug counselor ive ever seen, and he is a recovering addict. But I guess i need to order the DL phenalynine off the net i cant find it at walgreens and i cant find any health food stores here in STL. And he gave 3, 8mg pills a day thats ALOT.
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Old 2008-03-19, 19:20
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Default Re: Suboxone And Phenylanine

Are you on suboxone treatment or just use it recreationally?
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Old 2008-03-19, 19:22
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Default Re: Suboxone And Phenylanine

Quote:
Originally Posted by XstanX
Are you on suboxone treatment or just use it recreationally?


treatment plan.
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Old 2008-03-19, 19:26
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Default Re: Suboxone And Phenylanine

im on the treatment plan, im quitting h and opiates cuz i almost died and had 3 friends within a month from h. I just want to see what it would be like phen, jsut for experimentation sakes.

Edit: its not really any good recreationally, by itself. You might get the nods the first time or two.
 
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