I know they (The New South Wales Police Force) carry Glock 22's and now have the power to shoot people just for shits and giggles or something, and then beat their face into submission, but it's all real hazy, anyone know the whole deal?

What are these APEC powers that they're now allowed to use permanently?
Does that include that one where they detain you for however the fuck long they want without laying charges, even without suspicion?

And to search you and your vehicle for no good reason?

I don't knwo what these are and it's hard to find this out on the interenet so iw as hoping someone here might co-oincidentally know.

Hey ther kwinnie. I'm not really sure that this is bltc material hey :P

Heyyyyyyyyyy maaaaaaaate!!
Haven't caught ya on MSN for ages, been too busy aye..

And when I'm there, you're skinny black arse isn't..

..you probably have too yourself, yeah?

Yeah fuck aye, I thought I was making this thread in a different forum, whle I was browsing BLTC. Why the shit can't I delete my own thread?!

If a mod comes, would they do a man a favour and move this thread to an appropriate forum?

i don't think it will be permenent in terms of everyday, but during special events only.
eg.olympics, another apec, visit from US president, etc.



these were the special apec powers police had.
in a nutshell:

Stop and search powers
Power to place or establish check points, cordons
or roadblocks
Power to stop and search vehicles or vessels
Power to search persons
Surrender and seizure of prohibited items
Power to require surrender of, or to seize and detain,
prohibited items
Power to give reasonable directions
Power to close roads
Road closure to be for shortest possible period
Effect of road closure
Power to direct removal of unauthorised vehicles



or


full version below

http://www.anzacatt.org.au/prod/parlment/nswbills.nsf/1d436d3c74a9e047ca256e690001d75b/092ce5b351e0887dca2572f3001bd7ff/$FILE/b2007-043-d13-House.pdf

Stop and search powers
10 Power to place or establish check points, cordons or roadblocks
(1) A police officer may, for the purposes of stopping and searching
persons, vehicles or vessels under this Part or preventing persons
entering or leaving an APEC security area without the permission of a
police officer:
(a) establish one or more check points, or
(b) place one or more cordons around the area, or
(c) establish one or more roadblocks on any road that leads into or
out of, or that is located in, the area.
(2) A police officer exercising a function under subsection (1) must not
refuse permission for a person to leave the APEC security area unless it
is reasonably necessary to do so to avoid a risk to public safety or to the
person’s own safety.
(3) A check point, cordon or roadblock may consist of any appropriate form
of physical barrier or obstruction preventing or limiting the passage of
persons, vehicles or vessels.
11 Power to stop and search vehicles or vessels
(1) A police officer may, without a warrant, do any of the following:
(a) stop a vehicle or vessel seeking to enter an APEC security area
and require, as a condition of entry, that the person in charge of
the vehicle or vessel submit the vehicle or vessel (including any
thing in or on the vehicle or vessel) to a search,
(b) stop and search any vehicle or vessel (and any thing in or on the
vehicle or vessel) that is in an APEC security area.


(2) A police officer may detain a vehicle or vessel for so long as is
reasonably necessary to conduct a search under this section.
12 Power to search persons
(1) A police officer may, without a warrant, do any of the following:
(a) stop a person seeking to enter an APEC security area and require,
as a condition of entry, that the person submit to a search of the
person (including any thing in the possession of or under the
control of the person),
(b) stop and search a person (and any thing in the possession of or
under the control of the person) who is in an APEC security area.
(2) Division 4 of Part 4 of the Law Enforcement (Powers and
Responsibilities) Act 2002 (except to the extent that it authorises strip
searches) applies to the search of a person conducted under this section.
(3) A police officer may detain a person for so long as is reasonably
necessary to conduct a search under this section.
Division 3 Surrender and seizure of prohibited items
13 Power to require surrender of, or to seize and detain, prohibited items
(1) A police officer may, in connection with a search under this Part, do any
of the following:
(a) require a person that the officer reasonably suspects to be in
possession or have control of a prohibited item without special
justification to surrender the item to the officer as a condition of
entry into an APEC security area,
(b) seize and detain in an APEC security area all or part of a thing
that the officer reasonably suspects to be a prohibited item that is
in the possession or control of a person without special
justification.
(2) A power conferred by this section to require the surrender of, or to seize
and detain, a thing includes:
(a) a power to remove a thing from the place where it is found, and
(b) a power to guard the thing in or on the place where it is found.
(3) A police officer to whom a thing is surrendered, or who seizes a thing,
under this section need not return it to the person who surrendered it or
from whom it was seized.

Clause 14 APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007
Part 3 Special powers in relation to APEC security areas
(4) A police officer must inform the person who is in possession or has
control of the thing that the officer requires the person to surrender, or
that the officer is to seize, that the thing might not be returned to the
person.
(5) A police officer must comply with subsection (4):
(a) if it is practicable to do so, before or at the time of exercising the
power, or
(b) if it is not practicable to do so, as soon as is reasonably practicable
after exercising the power.
(6) A failure by a police officer to comply with subsection (4) does not
affect the validity of any exercise of power under this section.
(7) If a thing that has been surrendered or seized under this section is not
returned to the person who surrendered it or from whom it was seized
within the period of 24 hours after its surrender or seizure:
(a) the thing is forfeited to the Crown on the expiry of that period,
and
(b) no compensation is payable in respect of any such forfeiture.
(8) Such persons as the Commissioner may direct may destroy or otherwise
dispose of any thing forfeited to the Crown under this section in
accordance with the directions of the Commissioner.
(9) The proceeds of any sale of any thing disposed of under this section are
to be paid to the Treasurer for payment into the Consolidated Fund.
Division 4 Directions
14 Power to give reasonable directions
(1) A police officer may give a direction to any person, or any group of
persons assembled, in an APEC security area.
(2) Such a direction must be reasonable in the circumstances for the
purpose of substantially assisting in promoting the security or safety of
an APEC meeting, its participants or the public or in preventing or
controlling a public disorder.
(3) A direction under this section is to be given orally and, if given to a
group of persons, is to be given in such a manner as is likely to be
audible to all persons in that group, or to as many of them as practicable.
(4) If a direction under this section is given to a group of persons, it is not
necessary for the police officer to repeat the direction to each person in
the group.

APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007 Clause 15
Special powers in relation to APEC security areas Part 3
(5) However, just because the police officer is not required to repeat any
such direction does not in itself give rise to any presumption that each
person in the group has received the direction.
Division 5 Road closures
15 Power to close roads
(1) A police officer may, at the direction of the Commissioner, close any
road in an APEC security area for any of the following purposes:
(a) facilitating the conduct of an event for an APEC meeting,
(b) controlling and regulating vehicular or pedestrian traffic at or
near any venue or facility for an APEC meeting,
(c) facilitating the movement of vehicles that are being, or are to be,
used for conveying participants in an APEC meeting to or from
their accommodation, an airport or a venue, facility or event for
an APEC meeting,
(d) ensuring the safety of persons,
(e) protecting property from damage.
(2) A road may be closed by means of any appropriate form of physical
barrier or obstruction preventing or limiting the passage of vehicles or
persons or by such other means as the police officer considers
appropriate.
(3) It is not necessary to give public notice of the closure of a road under
this section.
16 Road closure to be for shortest possible period
It is the duty of any police officer closing a road under this Division to
ensure that the road is not closed for a period longer than is necessary to
serve the purpose for which the road is closed.
17 Effect of road closure
(1) A person or vehicle may not use a road while it is closed under this
Division unless:
(a) the person is a police officer or an authorised person, or
(b) the vehicle is a police vehicle or an authorised vehicle.
(2) A person or vehicle is an authorised person or authorised vehicle if the
person or vehicle is authorised (or belongs to a class of persons or
vehicles that is authorised) to use the road by the Commissioner or a
police officer.

Clause 18 APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007
Part 3 Special powers in relation to APEC security areas
(3) An authorisation for the purposes of this section may be given orally or
in writing.
(4) A road, or any part of a road, does not cease to be a road for the purposes
of the road transport legislation, the Motor Accidents Compensation Act
1999 or any other Act or law because it is closed or its use, or access to
it, is restricted under this Division or any other Act.
(5) In this section, use a road includes:
(a) any use of the road by pedestrians, and
(b) driving, leaving, parking, standing or stopping a vehicle on the
road.
18 Power to direct removal of unauthorised vehicles
(1) A police officer may remove (or direct an authorised officer to remove)
any vehicle or other thing from a road that is closed under this Division
if the police officer is of the opinion that it is necessary to do so.
(2) The provisions of section 76 (2)–(8A) of the Road Transport (Safety
and Traffic Management) Act 1999 apply to the removal of a vehicle in
accordance with this section in the same way as they apply to the
removal of an unattended motor vehicle or trailer in accordance with
that section.
(3) In this section, authorised officer has the same meaning as it has in
section 76 of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act
1999.

APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007 Clause 19
Additional powers and other provisions in relation to restricted areas Part 4
Part 4 Additional powers and other provisions in
relation to restricted areas
Division 1 Entry into restricted areas
19 Offence: entering restricted area without special justification
(1) A person must not, without special justification, enter a restricted area
or any part of a restricted area.
Maximum penalty: 6 months imprisonment or, if circumstances of
aggravation exist in relation to the offence, 2 years imprisonment.
(2) For the purposes of this section, circumstances of aggravation exist in
relation to an offence under this section if (but only if):
(a) the person was in possession or had control of a prohibited item,
and
(b) the person had no special justification to be in possession or have
control of the item.
Division 2 Special powers in relation to restricted areas
Note. Section 201 of the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 requires
police officers to identify themselves and give certain warnings when exercising certain kinds
of police powers (whether conferred by that Act or otherwise).
A failure by a person to comply with a requirement or request of a police officer under this
Division is not an offence under this Act, but may result in the person being excluded from the
APEC security areas (or parts of them) under section 24.
20 Powers available only during APEC period
The powers conferred by this Division may be exercised only during the
APEC period in, or in relation to, a restricted area.
21 Power to enter and search premises
(1) A police officer may, without a warrant, enter and search any premises
located in a restricted area.
(2) The police officer must do as little damage as possible.
(3) This section does not authorise a police officer to enter any part of
premises being used for residential purposes, except:
(a) with the consent of the occupier of the part, or
(b) under the authority of a search warrant or under another law that
authorises the entry.

Clause 22 APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007
Part 4 Additional powers and other provisions in relation to restricted areas
22 Power to obtain disclosure of identity
(1) A police officer may request a person whose identity is unknown to the
officer to disclose his or her identity if:
(a) the person is seeking to enter a restricted area (whether or not in
or on a vehicle or vessel), or
(b) the person is in a restricted area (whether or not in or on a vehicle
or vessel).
(2) A police officer may also request a person who is requested under this
section to disclose his or her identity to provide proof of his or her
identity.
23 Relationship of this Part with Part 3
Any power conferred by this Part in relation to a restricted area is in
addition to, and does not derogate from, any power conferred in relation
to such an area by Part 3.
Note. Part 3 confers special powers on police officers in relation to both the
declared areas and restricted areas.

APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007 Clause 24
Exclusion and removal of persons from APEC security areas Part 5
Part 5 Exclusion and removal of persons from APEC
security areas
24 Exclusion of persons from APEC security areas
(1) The following persons (excludable persons) may be excluded from any
APEC security area during the APEC period (or any part of that period):
(a) any person who, without lawful excuse, fails to comply with a
requirement made of the person under this Act for the person to
submit to a search as a condition of entry into an APEC security
area,
(b) any person in or on a vehicle or vessel seeking to enter an APEC
security area in circumstances where the person in charge of the
vehicle or vessel fails, without lawful excuse, to comply with a
requirement made under this Act to submit the vehicle or vessel
to a search as a condition of entry into the area,
(c) any person who, without lawful excuse, resists, hinders or
obstructs a police officer conducting a search under this Act in an
APEC security area,
(d) any person who, without special justification, fails to surrender a
prohibited item to a police officer as a condition of entry into an
APEC security area,
(e) any person who, without lawful excuse, fails to comply with a
reasonable direction given to the person in an APEC security area
by a police officer under this Act,
(f) any person who, without lawful excuse, is on a road that is closed
under this Act,
(g) any person whose name appears on an excluded persons list.
(2) A police officer may, during the APEC period, do any of the following:
(a) prevent an excludable person from entering any APEC security
area,
(b) remove an excludable person from any APEC security area to
another place within that or another APEC security area or to a
place outside the APEC security areas,
(c) request an excludable person to disclose his or her identity or
provide proof of his or her identity (or both) when removing the
person from an area,
(d) without limiting paragraph (a), (b) or (c), remove any person who
is on a road but is not authorised to be on the road to a place
outside the road.


Clause 25 APEC Meeting (Police Powers) Bill 2007
Part 5 Exclusion and removal of persons from APEC security areas
25 Exclusion of persons from restricted areas
(1) A police officer may, during the APEC period, do any of the following:
(a) prevent a person from entering a restricted area if the person,
without lawful excuse, fails to comply with a request made of the
person under this Act to disclose his or her identity or provide
proof of his or her identity as a condition of entry into the area,
(b) remove any of the following persons from any restricted area to
another place within that or another APEC security area or to a
place outside the APEC security areas:
(i) any person who, without special justification, is in
possession or has control of a prohibited item in a
restricted area,
(ii) any person who, without special justification, is in a
restricted area,
(iii) any person who, without lawful excuse, fails to comply
with a request made of the person under this Act to
disclose his or her identity or provide proof of his or her
identity.
(2) Any power conferred by this section in relation to a restricted area is in
addition to, and does not derogate from, any other power of exclusion
or removal conferred by this Part or this Act in relation to an APEC
security area.
26 Excluded persons list
(1) The Commissioner may, from time to time, compile one or more lists of
persons (an excluded persons list) that the Commissioner is satisfied are
persons who would pose serious threats to the safety of persons or
property (or both) in an APEC security area during the APEC period.
(2) The Commissioner may (but need not) cause an excluded persons list to
be published by such means as the Commissioner thinks appropriate.
(3) Without limiting subsection (2), an excluded persons list may be
published:
(a) in the Gazette, or
(b) in any newspaper published in the State (whether or not
circulating generally throughout the State), or
(c) on an Internet website.
(4) A failure by the Commissioner to notify the public of the contents of an
excluded persons list does not affect the validity of the list or otherwise
limit any powers conferred by this Act in relation to persons named in
the list.

true.

Thanks deeeeeewd. It looks like they gain fuck all powers?!?!?!

why would you carry a 22 pistol? talk aboiut some shitty stopping power

APEC?

And he said Glock 22, not Glock .22 lol.

What the guy above this post said dude, Glock 22's are chambered in .40 Smith & Wesson I think.

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it's nations involved consists of half the worlds trade, and a third of the worlds population