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Old 2008-03-11, 16:18
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Yes, I smoked hashish, in a joint with tobacco. What'cha gonna do BLTC?
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Old 2008-03-11, 16:26
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good for you.
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Old 2008-03-11, 16:33
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I once smoked a joint rolled out of bible paper filled with hash, tobacco and 3 crushed up e pills. It was taped up with a thin piece of scotch tape, too.


I > you
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:09
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Fuck is an English word that, as a verb, literally means "to have sexual intercourse with." Its use is generally considered censurable and offensive in most formal circles, but may also be rather common or expected in certain situations or social groups.

It is unclear whether the word has always been considered vulgar, and if not, when it first came to be used to describe (often in an extremely angry, hostile or belligerent manner) negative or unpleasant circumstances or people in an intentionally offensive way, such as in the term "motherfucker", one of its more common usages in some western parts of the English-speaking world.

Fuck is used not only as a verb (transitive and intransitive), but also as a noun, interjection, and, occasionally, as an expletive infix. The etymology of the word is uncertain (see below).


Etymology
Sources such as the Oxford English Dictionary contend that the true etymology of fuck is still uncertain but appears to point to an Anglo-Saxon origin.


Flen flyys and freris
The usually accepted first known occurrence is in code in a poem in a mixture of Latin and English composed some time before 1500. The poem, which satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, takes its title, "Flen flyys", from the first words of its opening line, "Flen, flyys, and freris" (= "Fleas, flies, and friars"). The line that contains fuck reads "Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk". Removing the substitution cipher[1] on the phrase "gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk" yields "non sunt in coeli, quia fvccant vvivys of heli", which translated means "they are not in heaven because they fuck wives of Ely" (fvccant is a fake Latin form).[2] The phrase was coded likely because it accused some Church personnel of misbehaving; it is uncertain to what extent the word "fuck" was considered acceptable at the time.


John le Fucker
A man's name "John le Fucker" is said to be reported from AD 1278, but the report is doubtful: an email discussion on Linguist List says:

This name has been exhaustively argued over ... The "John le Fucker" reference first appears in Carl Buck's 1949 Indo-European dictionary. Buck does not supply a citation as to where he found the name. No one has subsequently found the manuscript in which it is alleged to have appeared. If the citation is genuine and not an error, it is most likely a spelling variant of "fulcher", meaning soldier.[3]


Anglo-Saxon
An Anglo-Saxon charter [1] [2] granted by Offa, king of Mercia, dated A.D.772, granting land at Bexhill, Sussex to a bishop, includes the text:

Þonne syndon þa gauolland þas utlandes into Bexlea in hiis locis qui appellantur hiis nominibus: on Berna hornan .iii. hida, on Wyrtlesham .i., on Ibbanhyrste .i., on Croghyrste .viii., on Hrigce .i., on Gyllingan .ii., on Fuccerham 7 and on Blacanbrocan .i., on Ikelesham .iii.;
Then the tax-lands of the outland belonging to Bexley are in these places which are called by these names: at Barnhorne 3 hides, at Wyrtlesham [Worsham farm near Bexhill ] 1, at Ibbanhyrst 1, at Crowhurst 8, at (Rye? The ridge north of Hastings?) 1, at Gillingham 2, at Fuccerham and at Blackbrook [may be Black Brooks in Westfield village just north of Hastings ] 1, at Icklesham 3.
The placename Fuccerham looks like either "the home (hām) of the fucker" or "the enclosed pasture (hamm) of the fucker", who may have been a once-notorious man, or a locally well-known stud male animal.


Older etymology

Via Germanic
The word fuck has cognates in other Germanic languages, such as German ficken (to copulate), Dutch fokken (to breed), dialectical Norwegian fukka (to copulate), and dialectical Swedish focka (to strike, copulate) and fock (penis).

This points to a possible etymology where Common Germanic fuk–, by reverse application of Grimm's law, would have as its most likely Indo-European ancestor *pug–, which appears in Latin and Greek words meaning "fight" and "fist" (cf. the Latin-derived English words pugnacious = "combative", and pugilist = "fighter, boxer"). In early Proto-Germanic the word was likely used at first as a slang or euphemistic replacement for an older word for intercourse, and then became the usual word for intercourse.

The original Indo-European root for to copulate is likely to be *h3yebh– or *h3eybh–, which is attested in Sanskrit yabhati, Russian ебать (yebat'), Polish jebać, and Serbian јебати (jebati), among others: compare the Greek verb οιφω (oiphō) = "I have sexual intercourse with", and the Greek noun ζεφυρος (zephuros) (ref. a Greek belief that the west wind caused pregnancy).


From Latin?
Other possible connections are to Latin fūtuere (almost exactly the same meaning as the English verb "to fuck"); but it would have to be explained how the word reached Scandinavia from Roman contact, and how the t became k. From fūtuere came French foutre, Catalan fotre, Italian fottere, Romanian futere, vulgar peninsular Spanish follar and joder, and Portuguese foder. However, there is considerable doubt and no clear lineage for these derivations. These roots, even if cognates, are not the original Indo-European word for to copulate, but Wayland Young (who agrees that these words are related) argues that they derive from the Indo-European *bhu– or *bhug– ("be", "become"), or as causative "create" [see Young, 1964]. A possible intermediate might be a Latin 4th-declension verbal noun *fūtus, with possible meanings including "act of (pro)creating".

(The Spanish verb follar has a different origin: according to Spanish etymologists, it (attested in the 19th century) derives via fuelle ("bellows") from Latin folle(m) < Indo-European *bhel–; the old Spanish verb folgar (attested in the 15th century) derived from Latin follicare, also ultimately from follem/follis.)
A derivation from Latin facere = "to do", "to make" has been suggested.

From Celtic?
A Celtic origin has been suggested: compare Irish bot and Manx bwoid (penis), Common Celtic *bactuere (to pierce), from the root buc– (a point).[citation needed]

From Greek?
Greek phyō (φυω) has various meanings, including (of a man) "to beget", or (of a woman), "to give birth to".[4] Its perfect tense pephyka (πεφυκα) has been likened to "fuck" and its equivalents in other Germanic languages.


False etymologies
One reason that the word fuck is so hard to trace etymologically is that it was used far more extensively in common speech than in easily traceable written forms.

There are several urban-legend false etymologies postulating an acronymic origin for the word. None of these acronyms was ever heard before the 1960s, according to the authoritative lexicographical work, The F-Word, and thus are backronyms. In any event, the word fuck has been in use far too long for some of these supposed origins to be possible. Some of these urban legends are:

That the word fuck came from Irish law. If a couple were caught committing adultery, they would be punished "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge In the Nude", with "FUCKIN" written on the stocks above them to denote the crime.
That it came from any of:
"Fornication Under Carnal/Cardinal Knowledge"
"Fornication Under [the] Control/Consent/Command of the King"
"Fornication Under the Christian King"
"False Use of Carnal Knowledge"
"Felonious Use of Carnal Knowledge"
"Felonious Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
"Full-On Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
"Found Under Carnal Knowledge"
"Forced Unlawful Carnal Knowledge", referring to the crime of rape.
There are unproved stories that fuck arose as an abbreviation of one of the versions containing "unlawful":

In armed forces log books, when reporting courts martial of men accused of homosexual intercourse.[citation needed]
On tombstones around English cemeteries, referring to being put to death for crimes against the state and the church.[citation needed] No such tombstone has been provably found
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:10
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its funny i clicked random on wiki and got that and
British Columbia Marijuana Party
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:11
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Great.
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:15
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its funny i clicked random on wiki and got that and
British Columbia Marijuana Party


Their bookstore is awesome. When I lived in BC we used to go to the bookstore and hit their volcano vaporizers, 5$ per person. Had to bring our own bud of course. Yesterday was the first time I smoked bud in 6 months.
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:16
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Their bookstore is awesome. When I lived in BC we used to go to the bookstore and hit their volcano vaporizers, 5$ per person. Had to bring our own bud of course.

That's ruthless.
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:19
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That's ruthless.

What do you mean with ruthless?
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:22
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yes yes well all agree ...marijuana is amaizing....but not as amaizing as...


http://www.nubilesblog.com/pics/Lola/blog06.jpg
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http://www.nubilesblog.com/pics/Kennedy/blog05.jpg
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:23
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What do you mean with ruthless?

Ruthless as in pretty fucking neat considering I live in Chicago and we could never get away with shit like that.
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:28
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Ruthless as in pretty fucking neat considering I live in Chicago and we could never get away with shit like that.

Ya, BC is pretty relaxed with that shit. They usually ID people for their vapour lounge, but we looked legit and were good customers. In the cafe beside it, amsterdam cafe, there were even more people smoking. Go in the parks you'll occasionally see people smoke on the benches. If they tried to arrest everyone there would be a riot. They can't even piss test people in their schools because then 25% would likely be thrown out (having smoked in the past week).
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:32
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Ya, BC is pretty relaxed with that shit. They usually ID people for their vapour lounge, but we looked legit and were good customers. In the cafe beside it, amsterdam cafe, there were even more people smoking. Go in the parks you'll occasionally see people smoke on the benches. If they tried to arrest everyone there would be a riot. They can't even piss test people in their schools because then 25% would likely be thrown out (having smoked in the past week).

That's cool to hear man. I'm 23 so I don't have to worry about being carded for anything like that but I was going to make a trip to BC anyways to buy more seeds I needed (last shipment got seized) and other things and just to kick it and take a week off work.

I've heard other cool shit about things happening in or around BC and def wanted to check it out.

Once the weather gets nice here I'm going to plan out a road trip + nice hotel stay to check it out and take in the sites.
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:48
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Those bitches aren't too hot.

They'd get it though....
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I love how this thread just completely changed direction.

But yea, out here in BC its pretty relaxed.

In the city I live in, on 4 20 if you get caught blazing by the cops, you just ask them for a badge number and they will just take half your weed and leave you alone.

True story.
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Old 2008-03-11, 18:10
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I love how this thread just completely changed direction.

But yea, out here in BC its pretty relaxed.

In the city I live in, on 4 20 if you get caught blazing by the cops, you just ask them for a badge number and they will just take half your weed and leave you alone.

True story.


Really? In Vancouver I was at the 420 rally by the art gallery twice. Over 6000 people met up to toke. The cops couldn't do shit there. I've gotten my weed confiscated twice, but that was never on 420.
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Old 2008-03-11, 19:45
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call the police
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Old 2008-03-11, 21:07
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abhzer
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Old 2008-03-11, 23:31
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