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 #1 
Old 2008-03-10, 13:22
J-Beth J-Beth is offline
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Default Extinction of Drugs?

So here I sit high on the good ole' white lovely lady, and I pose this question Will drugs ever cease to be used, for recreation?

I do not think that they will ever die out, I believe they will always have a market, because there isnt much anything else that compares to drugs. They are pretty much artificial "feelings" if you will and thats what everyone on earth is so obsessed with think (love, happiness, saddness, depression, horniness, etc).

I hope they never die out, especially LSD, because I plan to take LSD at least once every 5 years or so in my older adult life, like with children and what not.

Cocaine too, I like my cocaine....

SO what do you all think, can you see drugs dying out? Maybe new drugs taking the place of our current ones?
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Old 2008-03-10, 13:50
Circular Buttsecks Chain Circular Buttsecks Chain is offline
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As long as there are people like us buying,I doubt drugs will ever die out.The drugs of the future would probably be RC's.
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Old 2008-03-10, 14:28
Ljudska Ljudska is offline
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As long as there is suffering, people will try to self-medicate.

People huff fucking Jenkem to get high when they can't get their hands on real drugs. If there's that strong of a drive to alter one's consciousness, what hope could any anti-drug establishment have?
 #4 
Old 2008-03-10, 15:05
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Connecticut
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quaaludes, great example of an extinct drug...



some will come some will go.
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Old 2008-03-10, 15:34
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mah compound
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Maybe you never heard of the forum we call labtips? Never heard of chemistry? Saying drugs might go extinct is like saying modern medicine might go extinct, and even if we lost ALL technology, well, just ask joe pedo about the millions of different ways to make anything from anything.
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Old 2008-03-10, 18:42
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Maybe you never heard of the forum we call labtips? Never heard of chemistry? Saying drugs might go extinct is like saying modern medicine might go extinct, and even if we lost ALL technology, well, just ask joe pedo about the millions of different ways to make anything from anything.


there you go with joe pedo again..
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Old 2008-03-10, 18:48
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mah compound
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there you go with joe pedo again..
Maybe because he is one of the smartest motherfuckers on here?
 #8 
Old 2008-03-10, 18:53
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Maybe because he is one of the smartest motherfuckers on here?

why don't you just cement your bitch lips to his naked ass?
 #9 
Old 2008-03-10, 18:56
spl1ff spl1ff is offline
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why don't you just cement your bitch lips to his naked ass?

shut the fuck up
 #10 
Old 2008-03-10, 18:58
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

shut the fuck up

eat my chest hair.
 #11 
Old 2008-03-10, 19:33
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eat my chest hair.

Shut the fuck up.
 #12 
Old 2008-03-10, 19:46
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yes, RECREATIONAL drug use will eventually cease, survival of the fittest. people with genes that coincide with drug use will eventually die from the use of their drugs, not only because of the dangers of the drugs themselves, but the crime, social stigma, etc that goes with it.

let not kid ourselves, using drugs is not a favorable trait, and it will eventually die out.
 #13 
Old 2008-03-10, 19:56
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Uhh, I disagree. Drugs can have a net positive effect on health and well being.
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Old 2008-03-10, 20:02
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
yes, RECREATIONAL drug use will eventually cease, survival of the fittest. people with genes that coincide with drug use will eventually die from the use of their drugs, not only because of the dangers of the drugs themselves, but the crime, social stigma, etc that goes with it.

let not kid ourselves, using drugs is not a favorable trait, and it will eventually die out.

Shows how much you know about actual responsible drug use. Let's see how your opinion changes in ten years after you've moved out of mommy and daddies house.
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Old 2008-03-10, 20:17
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dude chill. i know there can be responsible drug use, but after time, it will grow less and less, with more people becoming addicted than laying off hard drugs. im talking about a slow process, thousands of years.

ps, my parents are divorced.
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Old 2008-03-10, 20:20
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mah compound
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I don't even have the patience to explain to you just how wrong you are. Anyone else wanna do it?
 #17 
Old 2008-03-10, 20:21
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NJ
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seriously chill its a fucking internet forum.

your a lot smarter than me, ill admit that, and your probably right, its just my opinion and what i think will happen
 #18 
Old 2008-03-10, 20:26
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
seriously chill its a fucking internet forum.

your a lot smarter than me, ill admit that, and your probably right, its just my opinion and what i think will happen


You're right, it is just an internet forum, so don't get your fucking panties in a bunch when I call you a retard. It's just text on a screen moron, don't let it hurt your feelings faggot, it's just an internet forum. Chill. Faggot.



edit you asked for that shit, i wasn't even being that mean to begin with, and you have to cry like a little bitch, invoking the above post.
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Old 2008-03-10, 20:32
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
yes, RECREATIONAL drug use will eventually cease, survival of the fittest. people with genes that coincide with drug use will eventually die from the use of their drugs, not only because of the dangers of the drugs themselves, but the crime, social stigma, etc that goes with it.

let not kid ourselves, using drugs is not a favorable trait, and it will eventually die out.


Where'd you find your crystal ball?

The thing is, there is strong evidence to show that as soon as humans came into consciousness they started altering the consciousness. It's not quite as essential as fucking, food, and surviving; but it's a pretty big part of humanity.
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Old 2008-03-10, 20:39
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

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Originally Posted by kwerjack
yes, RECREATIONAL drug use will eventually cease, survival of the fittest. people with genes that coincide with drug use will eventually die from the use of their drugs, not only because of the dangers of the drugs themselves, but the crime, social stigma, etc that goes with it.

let not kid ourselves, using drugs is not a favorable trait, and it will eventually die out.


Survival of the fittest doesnt really work the same way with humans as it does wild animals Im afraid. People manage to have kids before they OD or die from liver failure or whatever.
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Old 2008-03-10, 21:47
the half unlit the half unlit is offline
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I dont think drugs will be extinct for a while.... Maybe in the future there will be something like "happy stations" where something is injected into you at stations to change your brain chemestry for a little bit. Not as many people would die from OD's and gang wars and shit.
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Old 2008-03-10, 22:06
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Hey, stupid noob. Your really smart, so why do you have to pick on people over an internet forum. Why don't you just use your gifts to inform people, you don't have to belittle them in the process. If everyone would just consider other people before posting, this forums would be great.
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Old 2008-03-10, 22:08
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Hey, stupid noob. Your really smart, so why do you have to pick on people over an internet forum. Why don't you just use your gifts to inform people, you don't have to belittle them in the process. If everyone would just consider other people before posting, this forums would be great.


because he's mad at the world for personal reasons involving what's going on with his leg.
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Old 2008-03-10, 22:09
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

it will never happen.

Man has used psychoactives since at least the times of ancient egypt. It's just recently (past century or so) that psychoactives have come under fire.

It won't ever end, in fact I think I think the use of psychoactives will increase, possibly exponentially, in the future. You do have to remember we live in a society where we're constantly looking for our philosopher's stone; our simple and controllable way out. We're the most prominent "pop a pill and everything will be better" culture of the world. As long as the pharmaceutical america/western world mentality lasts, psychoactives will never cease to exist. In all shapes and forms, from the legit pharmies, to the street RCs, they will last.
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Old 2008-03-10, 22:35
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by r_connolly_06
Hey, stupid noob. Your really smart, so why do you have to pick on people over an internet forum. Why don't you just use your gifts to inform people, you don't have to belittle them in the process. If everyone would just consider other people before posting, this forums would be great.

If everyone would just think and use their god damn brain before posting, this forum would be great too. At least I actually contribute in conjunction with my flaws, the majority of dipshits on here can't say the same thing.
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Old 2008-03-10, 22:48
The Death Monkey The Death Monkey is offline
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If everyone would just think and use their god damn brain before posting, this forum would be great too. At least I actually contribute in conjunction with my flaws, the majority of dipshits on here can't say the same thing.

Yeah... but you're still a fucking asshole.
 #27 
Old 2008-03-10, 23:14
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mah compound
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Yeah... but you're still a fucking asshole.

And?!
 #28 
Old 2008-03-10, 23:22
the trickster the trickster is offline
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because he's mad at the world for personal reasons involving what's going on with his leg.

lol what happened to his leg?
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Old 2008-03-11, 00:18
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why don't you just cement your bitch lips to his naked ass?

I've been waiting for someone to say this for such a very fucking long time. +1
 #30 
Old 2008-03-11, 00:32
spl1ff spl1ff is offline
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eat my chest hair.

maybe i would consider it, if you had any.
 #31 
Old 2008-03-11, 00:37
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This message is hidden because Internet-Weed-Dude is on your ignore list.
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Old 2008-03-11, 00:44
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Yeah... but you're still a fucking asshole.

Hes probably on here all day because he's too much of a dick for anyone to talk to.
 #33 
Old 2008-03-11, 02:32
The Death Monkey The Death Monkey is offline
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And?!

You need more? Well unfortunately my mommy taught me as a kid not to feed the animals at the zoo, hobos, trolls under bridges, Britney Spears and assholes like you. Sorry!
 #34 
Old 2008-03-11, 03:11
chem42 chem42 is offline
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I've been waiting for someone to say this for such a very fucking long time. +1

Indeed, that was probably the 2nd hardest I've ever laughed on the internets.
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Old 2008-03-11, 03:21
TheSoundsOfScience TheSoundsOfScience is offline
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I've been waiting for someone to say this for such a very fucking long time. +1

What? He's stating fact, faggot. His knowledge of chemistry exceeds that of any other TOTSE member.

And so fucking what if stupid noob is an asshole to you guys. It's just because you fuckers ask the same questions again and again (UTFSE) or are too lazy to do ANY sort of research.
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Old 2008-03-11, 03:34
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

What? He's stating fact, faggot. His knowledge of chemistry exceeds that of any other TOTSE member.

And so fucking what if stupid noob is an asshole to you guys. It's just because you fuckers ask the same questions again and again (UTFSE) or are too lazy to do ANY sort of research.

bla bla bla Stupid Noob is smart and an asshole, you didnt really deserve Internet Weed Dude's burn but it was funny and that makes it OK.
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Old 2008-03-11, 04:17
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

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Originally Posted by kwerjack
yes, RECREATIONAL drug use will eventually cease, survival of the fittest. people with genes that coincide with drug use will eventually die from the use of their drugs, not only because of the dangers of the drugs themselves, but the crime, social stigma, etc that goes with it.

let not kid ourselves, using drugs is not a favorable trait, and it will eventually die out.


I agree, you have much better foresight than most people on here. Makes me wonder, what are you doing on a forum about drugs anyways?...
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Old 2008-03-11, 06:14
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mah compound
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I agree, you have much better foresight than most people on here. Makes me wonder, what are you doing on a forum about drugs anyways?...Makes me wonder what your dumbass is doing here...............



And IWD, if you were able to even comprehend and pronounce more than 15% of what he said, you too would realize that you are in the presence of some serious greatness. There aren't many people like joepedo, the things that mother fucker can do, just from shit he finds in a dumpster, you couldn't hope to accomplish if you had someone holding your hand step by step in a legit fully stocked lab.


Face it, you are a moron, and a loser, and you take out your frustration that you can't keep up with normal intelligent conversation by spitting out retarded ass random flames, and lame ass troll attempts, showing just how low class you are by the humor you enjoy. Faggot.
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Old 2008-03-11, 06:55
the dillinger escape plan the dillinger escape plan is offline
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Default Re: Extinction of Drugs?

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Originally Posted by kwerjack
yes, RECREATIONAL drug use will eventually cease, survival of the fittest. people with genes that coincide with drug use will eventually die from the use of their drugs, not only because of the dangers of the drugs themselves, but the crime, social stigma, etc that goes with it.

let not kid ourselves, using drugs is not a favorable trait, and it will eventually die out.


Yeah but this is assuming that drug use or aversion to it is controlled by gene(s). Though it is possible that this is true for some drug users I think drug use is largely a cultural phenomenon.

quaaludes, great example of an extinct drug...



some will come some will go.

Ludes have definetely fallen out of vogue and they are nearly impossible to find in the states but I wouldn't say that any chemical compound could go extinct in the foreseeable future, like SN said. For example even ludes could be synthed and all it would take is enough of a demand in the drug market and bame the US will have a clandestine quaalude epidemic. Though given some freak disaster it may be possible for a plant such as Marijuana or P. azurescens to become extinct but even then the THC and Psilocybin that the said plants contained could be synthed.
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Old 2008-03-11, 09:30
The Death Monkey The Death Monkey is offline
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Weed will never go away so long as there are seeds and people looking to get high. Even if every natural disaster on earth happened at the same time.

Mushrooms won't go extinct... they are a fucking fungus.
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Old 2008-03-11, 09:35
the dillinger escape plan the dillinger escape plan is offline
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Weed will never go away so long as there are seeds and people looking to get high. Even if every natural disaster on earth happened at the same time.

Mushrooms won't go extinct... they are a fucking fungus.


Then how did species of plant and fungi go existinct in natural disasters before man?? If your arguing that marijuana wont go extinct simply because it has seeds all that would have to happen would be a natural source of radiation with significant energy.
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Old 2008-03-11, 11:34
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Going on the current theory of how shit works:
Not until the universe eats itself. :)
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Old 2008-03-11, 16:35
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Extinction of recreational drug use....well lets look at the reasons people use drugs in the first place. If that's removed, people will cease to use drugs.

My theory: All emotions are based on survival and reproduction. If something contributes to survival or reproduction, you'll likely feel good, such as eating or sex. But those are basic emotions which are still required in modern society. However, we've got hundreds of complex emotions which simply don't fit into modern society, these emotions are the reason many youth today feel confused. There's a need to control these emotions, and most people choose drugs. This only works for depressants and stimulants.

For psychedelics its quite a different story, since psychedelics amplify emotions, negative ones to. But aslong as there's curiosity and books/information about psychedelics, recreational use will exist. And aslong as people are feeling good emotions they want to amplify (which has decreased in the past 30-40 years).
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Old 2008-03-11, 17:09
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Originally Posted by Circular Buttsecks Chain
As long as there are people like us buying,I doubt drugs will ever die out.The drugs of the future would probably be RC's.


I doubt it, we're probobly on or around the peak of RCs right now
 #45 
Old 2008-03-11, 17:25
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I doubt it, we're probobly on or around the peak of RCs right now

What he ment I think is new RCs will be discovered, and perhaps new ways to synthesize them, making them much more accessible and cheap. MDMA and LSD were once considered research chemicals, but are now mainstream drugs.

Imagine if an opioid more powerful then heroin, which is as easy to make as meth is discovered? What if they find a way to synthesize LSD which is as easy as making an apple pipe? You never know what's gonna happen. So if RCs become popular, and perhaps the only way to get high in the future, will be determined by chance.
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Old 2008-03-11, 18:36
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Maybe because he is one of the smartest motherfuckers on here?

this. he's the smartest person i know atm.
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Old 2008-03-12, 01:40
pennylane pennylane is offline
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Makes me wonder what your dumbass is doing here...............


go do something, lil cocksucker
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Old 2008-03-12, 01:51
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mah compound
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Ludes aren't dead. I happen to have a synth write up for it.
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Old 2008-03-12, 01:59
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I agree, you have much better foresight than most people on here. Makes me wonder, what are you doing on a forum about drugs anyways?...

i have an interest in drugs and chemistry, and like to experiment. i consider myself a responsible drug user, and im glad you see my perspective, whether or not it is or isnt right.
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Old 2008-03-12, 02:01
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Yeah but this is assuming that drug use or aversion to it is controlled by gene(s). Though it is possible that this is true for some drug users I think drug use is largely a cultural phenomenon.

yes its a cultural phenomenon, but whether or not a person will take a risk or not and certain other factors determining drug use are definitely genetic
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Old 2008-03-12, 02:02
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Mushrooms won't go extinct... they are a fucking fungus.

idiot...
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Old 2008-03-12, 03:18
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bla bla bla Stupid Noob is smart and an asshole, you didnt really deserve Internet Weed Dude's burn but it was funny and that makes it OK.

The smart comment was towards SN's comment about JoePedo.

Asshole comment still remains valid.
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Old 2008-03-12, 03:50
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Wasnt stupid noob a troll a while back? Now hes suddenly the smartest guy on totse?

I gotta keep up with this shit lol..
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Old 2008-03-12, 04:13
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idiot...

idiot.
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Old 2008-03-12, 04:27
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Stupid noob desperately needs a hug, why you so angry big guy?
 
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