so on erowid it says to use petroleum ether; instead we decided to use acetone because its a nonpolar solvent and a little easier to get. we were wondering how long we should let the seeds soak (since it should be more powerful). the guide said 3 days for using the ether.
thx

/facepalm

if i remember correctly, i did it for several days. keep it in a cool dark place as the LSA is quite fragile/sensitive to light and heat. i had a really great trip, but I still had some stomach discomfort early in the trip.

acetone is bad for you

Congratulations. All your ergoloids are in the 'tone, right alongside the waxes and oils the hexane-et-al were supposed to seperate.

A WINRAR IS J00!!

since when is acetone NONpolar? Honestly, it's not that hard to go to your neighborhood megastore and pick up a gallon of VM&P Naptha or even Ronsonol lighter fluid.

And it's not that hard to type in acetone MSDS into google either, but evidently he was too retarded for that too. Acetone is not nonpolar, it is fucking aprotic.

Wouldn't you still retain some of the ergot alcoloids?

Damn it all.

100 grams of five finger discounted seeds down the drain.

Literally.

Guh.

It's a shame now that I've exhausted the resources I use to get the seeds, seems a bit much to try and go back and take more after they re-shelf them.

Damn it.

Fuck,

A winrar is you

Maybe next time you will do the god damn research like I am always bitching about.

Maybe next time you will do the god damn research like I am always bitching about.

Quit being such a dick to everyone.

Quit being such a dick to everyone.

Quit being such a faggot ass troll you dumb cocksucker. I'll be as mean as I fucking want. If all you assholes can be as fucking stupid and as lazy as you want, then I have every fucking right to call you out on it.

it says to use petroleum ether for a god damned reason....

for the love of god, if you don't know what the fuck your doing you cant just go and improvise with random shit...

Quit being such a faggot ass troll you dumb cocksucker. I'll be as mean as I fucking want. If all you assholes can be as fucking stupid and as lazy as you want, then I have every fucking right to call you out on it.

Quit being such a dick..

Quit being such a dick..

quit being a fuckwit....

SWIM is planning to do an extraction, so what can I look for in the hardware store in regards to the ethyl alcohol?

I think the best a hardware store (if it's one that sells bait & guns & alcohol) would sell would be a 40yr old scotch.

A hardware store will not sell nondenatured ethanol. Go buy some vodka, unless of course you are underage, in which case you wouldn't be able to buy it at a hardware store anyway, AND you shouldn't be fucking with that shit anyway if you are underage.

petroleum ether = ethyl alcohol

That cannot be right

How much would a thing of naptha cost? And if they ask what I'm using it for what should I say?

Just eat the goddamn seeds! Extracted doses are really not much different. If you can't handle the seeds, just grind them up and put them in caps.

Sometimes seeds sold for æsthetic purposes (like landscaping etc.) are coated in some shit that will make you sick if you eat them. I don't know why they insist on doing stupid shit like that because it's bad for sales, but you should probably make sure the seeds aren't treated. The only seeds I would trust to eat would be the ones I grow in my own garden or those that I order online from a company that sells ethnobotanicals "not for human consumption wink wink nudge nudge".

And if they ask what I'm using it for what should I say?

Science project=all-purpose excuse.

Seeds make you nauseous, epically at higher doses. We think it may be slightly recoverable, as we only had it in the acetone for a small time. We will try to evaporate the solvent and consume the residue. And everclear should be ideal.

With all the extra goop in your goo you'll still get nauseous, though atleast it's easier eating jelly than mungin out on a bunch of nasty seeds.

A/B, baby. :)

ya that seems to happen for everyone on lsa not big worry though. Ur legs will def hurt too.

All I do is wash the untreated, ground seeds in Ronsonol (too dirty for this use or not...). Then I dry it up & put the powder in caps.

Stays good in caps for years.

That's fucking disgusting.

That's fucking disgusting.

On you on drugs? Why? Is Ronsonol too dirty? It's the same as VM&P isn't it?

On you on drugs? Why? Is Ronsonol too dirty? It's the same as VM&P isn't it?
Tell ya what moony baby, you do a little test for me ok? This will show you exactly how nasty this shit is.


I want you to go get some more ronsonol, and some VM&P naphtha, and put a little bit of each in it's own evap dish, and allow them to evaporate. First part, time them, second part, feel the bottom of the inside of the pan at the end of it all when you are sure you have evaporated as much as possible, and then come back and tell me if you notice a significant difference between the two in regards to xtime/evap and left over residue.


Also, evaporating from anything to dryness is just gross in general, and puts in way too much shit in your product. Not to mention, ether is a fuck of a lot cheaper.

Have you found a residue with Ronsonol? I've not found any that I can see or feel. The dry powder has no smell that I can detect, not a very good test, I know.

Is VM&P a product of better controls? I don't get it in my stores. Acetone/HCL/Methyl Hydrate sure. Why they're down on the Napth? IDK.

Do you mean auto-store ether or the real stuff?

The real stuff that one that distills from the "start her" fluid. :)

Yes that silverballs, and also, straight up starter fluid is another good one. Just make sure it only contains ether and heptane and you are good to go. Much cheaper than any solvent, lower boiling point so easier to evap off, and no risk of shitty residues.


Yes, I've had lighter fluid leave residue, though I forget what brand it was. Maybe Ronsonol doesn't. Smart move testing its evap before using. I also find starter fluid to be a better all around nonpolar, easy to gas from, just great stuff man. If you managed to get a clean extract with that though, good on ya buddy.

I guess that's why all those "ladies of the night" got together & started Hooker Chemicals? So as they could have all the necessary pure chems to facilitate their habits? Too bad it lead to their getting their Love Canals even more polluted? :(

It's cause their chems had shitty residue.

Shitty residue trasfered to the love canal too well. :)

What about coleman lamp fuel? It says naptha

I hear it might have the anti-rust in it?

This is good to know because I could use a clean evaporating NP for a few things.

But, since it is clearly not a food product, how would I tell if it is strictly heptane and ether??

Would I have to contact the company to find out? I don't mind... just a hassle.