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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-03-08, 00:47
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Mongoloid 
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about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
I've got 5 seeds (Hawaiian Strain, IAmShaman) with all the fuzz scraped off I'm about to try...
Any tips/advice before I do it? How much nausea should I expect, strong stomach pain or just a quick purge?
I'll keep the thread updated with whats going on.
EDIT: Just took with water 7:00
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#2
 2008-03-08, 01:02
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
Unless they are fresh and potent, don't expect a whole lot, but if they happen to be, then prepare for some interesting euphoria, vasoconstriction up the ass, and one looooong experience.
Crush/chew them up on an empty stomach, I've never thrown up from them, only slight stomach discomfort that went away over a half hour.
I've still got 20 of them bastards left that i doubt i will be using anytime soon, if at all.
LSA's interesting, but nothing too amazing.
Hope you didn't use tap water.
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#3
 2008-03-08, 01:18
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
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Originally Posted by mari juana
Unless they are fresh and potent, don't expect a whole lot, but if they happen to be, then prepare for some interesting euphoria, vasoconstriction up the ass, and one looooong experience.
Crush/chew them up on an empty stomach, I've never thrown up from them, only slight stomach discomfort that went away over a half hour.
I've still got 20 of them bastards left that i doubt i will be using anytime soon, if at all.
LSA's interesting, but nothing too amazing.
Hope you didn't use tap water.
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I just got them today...for some reason shamansgarden sent my order twice (2 envelopes of 50 seeds, I only ordered 1) and I already was planning on taking some I got earlier in the week today, but taking the newer ones are better I suppose (theyre the ones I took). I noticed the fuzz on the newer ones is harder to scrape off.
And yes, chlorine is supposed to hurt potency alot so I drank it with water from a fast food place thats been out for about 24 hours.
Is it ok if a ate a few chips about 30 mins before? Did you get any visuals or just euphoria? Was it a demented/out of it kind of trip?
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#4
 2008-03-08, 02:30
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
I think I'm starting to feel it...mild cramps, people on TV look very strange.
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#5
 2008-03-08, 03:10
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mari juana 
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
Yeah, it's a long come-up and an even longer comedown.
I did indeed get visuals, and seen plenty of patterns in everything. In the begining i was experiencing very random and intense euphoria, that felt really... natural.
Everything was so much clearer and brighter, a lot of things changed size a bit, the carpet in my room was waving like water, my pupils were gigantic, music sounded higher..
It was a really interesting experience, but i probably won't be doing this one again. I'm hoping to try some mushrooms next.
The first time i got them from IAS, i ordered 50 but they sent over 100, but they were also not very potent and i ended up eating 16, then the second time i ordered from BBB, and only needed 5-6.
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#6
 2008-03-08, 03:15
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
The time I did that shit it was gut wrenchingly nauseating. The smell of the seeds makes me gag.
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#7
 2008-03-08, 06:55
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
my first time I did 8 seeds and got euphoria equivelant to that of 2 very good pills of E as well as that amazing 'feeling sensation' where you just want to feel everything and it all feels amazing. I also got the crazy munchies and food was amazing, music was even more amazing, I was so fucking happy for like 4 hours, then the trip took a turn down the trippy road and my perspectives were shifting and I saw lots of warping rainbows in my vision moving across up and down, food was intense, my eyes bulging. Gotta get high potency, because now every time i even think of the seeds and their taste I gag. it sucks, I miss that amazing high, I didnt get bad vasoconstriction.
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#8
 2008-03-08, 22:16
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
In regards to the two posters above: if the taste is an issue simply capsule the powder.
And on a side note - as far as the experience is concerned; Ive always felt that LAA/LSA can provide a very MDMA like mindset at moderate doses.
Higher doses can very well be much more psychedelic with a come down that is very comparable to the classical ego-trip which is quite customary with shrooms.
.peace.
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#9
 2008-03-08, 22:27
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
Sorry I didn't update. Heres what happened:
During the post where I'm talking about cramps I think I felt it coming up a bit, and there sure where alot of shadows in the room all of a sudden. I also start getting giggly and music starts sounding much better and appealing than normal (don't really care for it while sober, but I've built a big collection for when I'm not)
But 10 minutes after this the feeling fades and I feel more or less normal. So then I decide go to sleep and see if I wake up when the trip kicks in (people apparently can't sleep while tripping on LSA). During this I had several lucid dreams (very very rarely happens without chemicals) which is always awesome. I was aware I had taken the seeds in my dream too and thought I was tripping haha.
I wake up at about 2:00AM in the morning and feel "heavy". This is probably the height of the trip. I had very very mild nausea, which is strange because I'm the kind of person who gets nauseous easily. During this time if I look at something for awhile it seems to stretch and scale in size slightly. I then decide that maybe all the seeds haven't been digested yet (Ive got low stomach acid) so I go back to sleep.
All through the night I keep waking up about every 5-15 minutes feeling slightly dizzy and "heavy", but not really any visuals and practically no nausea at all (probably not normal). I also found myself staring, unknowingly and perfectly content, at one place for up to 10 minutes (I sit up for awhile every time I wake up). Patterns seemed to shift around if stared at. No color changes, then again there was barely any light in the room at the time.
So when daylight breaks I give up trying to sleep for a decent amount of time and get out of bed...heavyiness is 90% gone but I feel strangely energetic.
All in all a very unintense trip, but pleasant euphoria through the whole time.
Short version/conclusion: Very mild trip, gave me lucid dream(s), almost no nausea, music sounded quite a bit better, mild euphoria, mild cramping/vasoconstriction. Low stomach acid might have been why it was pretty mild. But it was only 5 seeds and I've got about 100 left. To me it wasn't a waste.
Oh and IAmShaman wants their extra seeds back haha...I haven't decided if I'll send them back or not. I think they're covering shipping. Anyone know if harder to scrape fuzz means the seeds are fresher or is it the other way around?
But has anyone tried soaking the seeds in peppermint oil to turn LSA->LSH? LSH is supposed to be almost exactly like the LSD molecule and supposedly has no body load (heavy feeling) and less vasoconstriction. And its supposed to make the LSA/LSH more stable overall. Though the LSH apparently goes back to normal LSA if its out of the peppermint solution for a few minutes (gelcaps maybe?).
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#10
 2008-03-08, 22:46
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
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Originally Posted by Br00klynB0y87
In regards to the two posters above: if the taste is an issue simply capsule the powder.
And on a side note - as far as the experience is concerned; Ive always felt that LAA/LSA can provide a very MDMA like mindset at moderate doses.
Higher doses can very well be much more psychedelic with a come down that is very comparable to the classical ego-trip which is quite customary with shrooms.
.peace.
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Thanks man, but I actually did that, I crushed up 12 seeds and stuck them all into 6 capsules... yet I still puked, I did not gag upon consumption but I still got nauseas and puked, though that could probably be explained by low potency seeds because these 12 I took were 5 months after my first trip and were apart of the same bag. And yes very very MDMA like my first time, hell, maybe exactly like it but with the munchies, I dont eat much on MDMA. I actually personally think my LSA trip had even more intense euphoria than any MDMA high, and I have tested my pills, they were almost close to pure. MDMA gives me that smile and lovey feeling that wont go away and that extreme excitement and that everything feels good, LSA did this, but also gave me the most amazing body high ive ever had, my whole entire body was having an orgasm, I cant even begin to explain it but just imagine a full body orgasm, for 4 hours.
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#11
 2008-03-08, 23:04
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
Would powdering some seeds and putting them under your tongue work?
A few days ago I crushed up 2 (not finely in the least) and put them under my tongue for about 15 mins and felt alot more energetic and I was awake deep into the night without fatigue...but it could have been placebo effect.
I don't see whats so bad about the taste, it tasted a bit little like sunflower seeds.
Would under the tongue, between the gums, or just a mouthful of water with seed powder be best? Or none?
Gonna try it anyway under tongue....as soon as I find something to grind these fucking strong seeds. I can literally put all my weight on 1 with a screwdriver and it won't be close to cracking. Maybe they aren't supposed to be easily accessible with an outer layer made of cyanide and all....
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#12
 2008-03-09, 00:01
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Re: about to dose 5 HBWR (LSA) seeds...
I just scraped the coating off and ate a bunch, when I did them. They got stuck in my teeth, but it worked. Don't underestimate those fuckers, while they're not as strong as some of the other hallucinogens, they are still strong. I recall running out of my house in my boxers and throwing my entire stash in the middle of the street yelling "Never again!" over and over. Before my experience turned to shit, I had euphoria and nice CEV's.
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