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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-03-07, 01:29
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thefirst 
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Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
is hydrocodone water soluble? It seems like it would be a good feeling...
If you can in any way, how do you do it?
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#2
 2008-03-07, 01:45
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
You definitely don't want to shoot HC or codeine because they release a ton of histamines all at once resulting in a very miserable feeling. Stick to oxy+ for shooting.
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#3
 2008-03-07, 01:46
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Stick to oxy+ for shooting.
+morphine
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#4
 2008-03-07, 01:56
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
The histamine rush is intense, but very doable.
CWE--->evap---->mainline
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#5
 2008-03-07, 02:57
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
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Originally Posted by absolutecaliber
The histamine rush is intense, but very doable.
CWE--->evap---->mainline
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exactly. benadryl helps a lot. actually once i threw the powder from a benadryl 25mg capsule in with extracted hydrocodone and got a ncie fuckin shot
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#6
 2008-03-07, 03:25
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Choking Victim 
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Waste of time man.
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#7
 2008-03-07, 03:26
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Codeine derivatives that generally do not go well when IV'd :
Codeine (obviously)
Dihydrocodeine
Hydrocodone
Knowledge to your brain son. I'd suggest not trying it. The side effects will be 10x stronger for a negligibly better high, from what i've heard.
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#8
 2008-03-07, 03:37
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oxydose 
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
I've read that like Codeine Hydrocodone can fill the lungs with fluid somehow when IV'd, seriously look it up...
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#9
 2008-03-07, 05:17
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
exactly. benadryl helps a lot. actually once i threw the powder from a benadryl 25mg capsule in with extracted hydrocodone and got a ncie fuckin shot
ive heard the antihistamines like claratin and zertec work much better than benadryl as far as the opiate itch goes...
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#10
 2008-03-07, 05:24
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
ive heard the antihistamines like claratin and zertec work much better than benadryl as far as the opiate itch goes...
How about using actual chemical names, because there are a number of types of claritin, each containing something different. Because saying claritin implies that using psuedoephedrine would help, which it most certainly would not.
And people use benadryl because diphenhydramine potentiates opiates as well as inhibiting the histamine reaction.
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#11
 2008-03-07, 14:52
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Thanks everyone, I guess Ill just eat em with some benadryl before class today.
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#12
 2008-03-07, 15:05
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
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Originally Posted by thefirst
Thanks everyone, I guess Ill just eat em with some benadryl before class today.
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NO!!!
N0 W4RN1NG's patented opioid potentiation formula:
T-45) 600mg Tagamet HB(Cimetidine HCl), a large glass of tonic water (or another source of quinine), and a large glass of (white) Grapefruit juice, preferably from concentrate.
T-35) 30mg DXM HBr, 4mg CPM, 25mg Benadryl(Diphenhydramine HCl), 330mg Naproxen(Aleve).
T-20) 2 Tums OR 1.5 Tbsp. of Baking SODA. (Obviously this step only applies if you are eating your opes)
T-0) Parachute\chew\rail\bang your opiate\opioid.
T+10) Smoke a bowl or two. Not more, you don't want to over power it.
The godly opiate potentiation formula that has helped me so much. I find the bold part gives me the most effects, but that might just be me. I usually skip on the weed though.
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#13
 2008-03-07, 18:47
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
NO!!!
N0 W4RN1NG's patented opioid potentiation formula:
T-45) 600mg Tagamet HB(Cimetidine HCl), a large glass of tonic water (or another source of quinine), and a large glass of (white) Grapefruit juice, preferably from concentrate.
T-35) 30mg DXM HBr, 4mg CPM, 25mg Benadryl(Diphenhydramine HCl), 330mg Naproxen(Aleve).
T-20) 2 Tums OR 1.5 Tbsp. of Baking SODA. (Obviously this step only applies if you are eating your opes)
T-0) Parachute\chew\rail\bang your opiate\opioid.
T+10) Smoke a bowl or two. Not more, you don't want to over power it.
The godly opiate potentiation formula that has helped me so much. I find the bold part gives me the most effects, but that might just be me. I usually skip on the weed though.
Just out of curiosity, what good does the naproxen provide?
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#14
 2008-03-08, 01:31
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Just out of curiosity, what good does the naproxen provide?
Not a whole lot, actually. I mean, it does add to the body high. But not enough to go out and buy some. I added it into the formula because it does add SOME effect, and most people have Aleve laying around the house anyway...
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#15
 2008-03-08, 01:45
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
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Originally Posted by thefirst
is hydrocodone water soluble? It seems like it would be a good feeling...
If you can in any way, how do you do it?
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Just find some hydromorphone(what hydrocodone is metabolised to). hydromorphone is commonly shot up and since there is no apap in the hydromorphone mixtures its more suitable for IV use. Still though I wouldnt want to shoot that bacue of all the fillers and binders. Unless I had isotonic sterile water, clean needles, wheel filter/micronfilter; then I would be down.
Just out of curiosity, what good does the naproxen provide?It would increase the analgesic effects of the opiates/opioids but someone who is trying to get high off them does not need increased analgesic effects as much as they want increased euphoria.
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NO!!!
N0 W4RN1NG's patented opioid potentiation formula:
T-45) 600mg Tagamet HB(Cimetidine HCl), a large glass of tonic water (or another source of quinine), and a large glass of (white) Grapefruit juice, preferably from concentrate.
T-35) 30mg DXM HBr, 4mg CPM, 25mg Benadryl(Diphenhydramine HCl), 330mg Naproxen(Aleve).
T-20) 2 Tums OR 1.5 Tbsp. of Baking SODA. (Obviously this step only applies if you are eating your opes)
T-0) Parachute\chew\rail\bang your opiate\opioid.
T+10) Smoke a bowl or two. Not more, you don't want to over power it.
The godly opiate potentiation formula that has helped me so much. I find the bold part gives me the most effects, but that might just be me. I usually skip on the weed though.
Tagmet is meant to lower stomach acid which in turn increases absortion only when the drug is taken orally so if banging it, you would not ned the tagamet. Also if you take the tagamet you dont need baking soda or tums. tums would be bad because after calcium carbonate stops working you get whats called rebound acid production which results in increased acid production to make up for rduced acid.
In my experience it does not matter how much bud you smoke with you opis because it cannot overpwer it. If anything weed potentiates the effects of the opis and a super more intense stoned feeling results. I mean I love have opis and weed together because I get like a super high from the 2 together
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#16
 2008-03-08, 02:27
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
I find that the DXM is the most important.
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#17
 2008-03-08, 03:23
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ilovechronic 
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
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I find that the DXM is the most important.
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just saying shooting doesnt apply to that as much
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#18
 2008-03-08, 03:38
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Desperate?:D:);):D
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#19
 2008-03-08, 17:24
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eon_blue 
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
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Originally Posted by absolutecaliber
The histamine rush is intense, but very doable.
CWE--->evap---->mainline
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You forgot to add "------> pulmonary embolism" after mainline.
Which is why you don't shoot codeine or any of its derivatives.
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#20
 2008-03-08, 22:35
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
You forgot to add "------> pulmonary embolism" after mainline.
Which is why you don't shoot codeine or any of its derivatives.
That, and the histamine reaction. I was trying to find a source for the embolism thing before I mentioned it, but gave up after a minute. I do know it's true, but just wanted to post proof for all the faggots like IWD who do nothing but whine and bitch.
Oh well though, if they wanna cry about proof, let those faggots find it.
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#21
 2008-03-09, 01:57
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
...Tagmet is meant to lower stomach acid which in turn increases absortion only when the drug is taken orally so if banging it, you would not ned the tagamet. Also if you take the tagamet you dont need baking soda or tums. tums would be bad because after calcium carbonate stops working you get whats called rebound acid production which results in increased acid production to make up for rduced acid...
Actually, the tagamet doesn't have much to do with stomach acids.
Tagamet clogs cytochrome P450's isoenzymes CYP3A4 and CYP2D6, which are what oxycodone is metabolized through. By slowing their action, you eliminate or reduce first pass metabolism, resulting in significantly higher blood plasma levels. The stomach acid is just an extra bonus, but it takes a while for the reduced stomach acid to come into effect, so I would still recommend tums\baking SODA if you're eating your opes.
And rebound acidity doesn't matter, because by the time your body produces extra acids, the opiates are already absorbed. And the Tagamet will stop rebound acidity from taking place, anyway. ^_^
EDIT: and not many people CAN find hydromorphone. A close friend with a prescription is about as good as it gets in most places, because it's not really a popular street drug like oxy.
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#22
 2008-03-09, 02:33
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Re: Any way to shoot hydrocodone?
Actually, the tagamet doesn't have much to do with stomach acids.
Tagamet clogs cytochrome P450's isoenzymes CYP3A4 and CYP2D6, which are what oxycodone is metabolized through. By slowing their action, you eliminate or reduce first pass metabolism, resulting in significantly higher blood plasma levels. The stomach acid is just an extra bonus, but it takes a while for the reduced stomach acid to come into effect, so I would still recommend tums\baking SODA if you're eating your opes.
And rebound acidity doesn't matter, because by the time your body produces extra acids, the opiates are already absorbed. And the Tagamet will stop rebound acidity from taking place, anyway. ^_^
EDIT: and not many people CAN find hydromorphone. A close friend with a prescription is about as good as it gets in most places, because it's not really a popular street drug like oxy.
This man speaks gospel.
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