So, i have 1000 mics, and i'd like to make a b. caapi/ harmaline tea BUT, someone whos relatively experienced warned me about serotonin syndrom with this mix.

I don't really trust the internet but i figure a few of you (*cough* Ave *cough* Joe pedo* cough* stupid noob* cough* Meta *cough*) could tell me if this is a real risk and if i should take one for the team (FOR SCIENCE?!).

Everything on the internet advises not to mix maoi's with lsd due to the fact that it hasn't been used as a common combiination. so tell me about the chances of SS.

(this was one of the only things i could think of that would trump my datura use).

The two trips would be better separate than together. Just some advice.

If you want to use DMT and LSD together it would be much safer to just smoke the DMT and drop the LSD. Fucking with MAOIs is dangerous anyway, since even some types of food can cause toxicity. You have to plan your entire diet before, and after dosage, how long before and after depends on the type of MAOI, dose, and of course you own weight height, health and pretty much your own personal body chemistry profile.


Well, drop lsd THEN smoke DMT, vice versa would be pointless, well not pointless, but it wouldn't achieve your point.

I disagree, I find that dropping right after you come down from DMT helps to integrate the experience a lot more.

B caapi and harmaline don't contain DMT.

I don't know shit about this, but I'd say take a threshold dose of LSD with the tea and go from there, take advantage of the MAOIs to get the most trips you can out of the acid you have.

Or not.

B caapi and harmaline don't contain DMT.

I don't know shit about this, but I'd say take a threshold dose of LSD with the tea and go from there, take advantage of the MAOIs to get the most trips you can out of the acid you have.

Or not.



OH, i only scanned the OP, i see what you are talking about now.

In that case, I wouldn't fuck with it. I thought he was taking ayahuasca with LSD, not just MAOI and lsd. My bad.

it wouldn't be worth the health (mostly diet) risks. I'd suggest not risking it. However, I really do not see any serious interactions that would cause SS. Maybe try and savor as well as respect the cid by taking 500ug instead if you're considering an MAOI.

KNOW THE RISKS OF MAOI's, READ READ READ.

If you're trying to overcome short term tolerance (tripped recently) than don't waste your time.

Maybe try and savor as well as respect the cid by taking 500ug instead if you're considering an MAOI.

The fuck are you talking about?

If you want to use DMT and LSD together ...

What the fuck are you talking about?

I disagree, I find that dropping right after you come down from DMT helps to integrate the experience a lot more.

WTF are you talking about. You people...

What the fuck are you talking about?


OH, i only scanned the OP, i see what you are talking about now.


Read.

The fuck are you talking about?



What the fuck are you talking about?



WTF are you talking about. You people...

I'll be nice this time man. I'll consider this my good deed for the day:

Tadgh wants to take 1000ug (micrograms, a very large dose) of LSD, assuming he knows his source that well. LSD, as well as tryptamines and MANY other substances are broken down by Mono Amine Oxidase in your body. Tadgh wants to take a combination of two plants that contain alkaloids that act as Mono Amine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs), which will prevent the LSD he wants to consume from being broken down as quickly as the body would normally react. He is afraid this will cause "serotonin syndrome", which is having too much serotonin (a neurotransmitter) in his synapses.


To the original poster
Actually getting serotonin syndrome is a legit fear. However, one incident of taking LSD with an MAOI is not a reason to fear actually getting the "disease". You probably have no more reason to fear than if you took the cid by itself. You only need to worry if you plan on this to be a repeated event, which I hope you're not planning it to be.

I'll be nice this time man. I'll consider this my good deed for the day:

Tadgh wants to take 1000ug (micrograms, a very large dose) of LSD, assuming he knows his source that well. LSD, as well as tryptamines and MANY other substances are broken down by Mono Amine Oxidase in your body. Tadgh wants to take a combination of two plants that contain alkaloids that act as Mono Amine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs), which will prevent the LSD he wants to consume from being broken down as quickly as the body would normally react. He is afraid this will cause "serotonin syndrome", which is having too much serotonin (a neurotransmitter) in his synapses.


To the original poster
Actually getting serotonin syndrome is a legit fear. However, one incident of taking LSD with an MAOI is not a reason to fear actually getting the "disease". You probably have no more reason to fear than if you took the cid by itself. You only need to worry if you plan on this to be a repeated event, which I hope you're not planning it to be.
lol, you sort of just wasted you time typing that shit up. I know what the OP is trying to do, but taking consecutive tryptamines causes cross-tolerance.
r-connolly is wasting acid and you are being a melodramatic fag(lol seriously, do I have to respect the acid? I don't want to hurt it's feelings by taking too much.).

and you are being a melodramatic fag(lol seriously, do I have to respect the acid? I don't want to hurt it's feelings by taking too much.).

WTF are you talking about?

lol, you sort of just wasted you time typing that shit up. I know what the OP is trying to do, but taking consecutive tryptamines causes cross-tolerance.
r-connolly is wasting acid and you are being a melodramatic fag(lol seriously, do I have to respect the acid? I don't want to hurt it's feelings by taking too much.).


hahaha I could really care less about your piece of shit ass

I'll be nice this time man. I'll consider this my good deed for the day:

Tadgh wants to take 1000ug (micrograms, a very large dose) of LSD, assuming he knows his source that well. LSD, as well as tryptamines and MANY other substances are broken down by Mono Amine Oxidase in your body. Tadgh wants to take a combination of two plants that contain alkaloids that act as Mono Amine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs), which will prevent the LSD he wants to consume from being broken down as quickly as the body would normally react. He is afraid this will cause "serotonin syndrome", which is having too much serotonin (a neurotransmitter) in his synapses.


To the original poster
Actually getting serotonin syndrome is a legit fear. However, one incident of taking LSD with an MAOI is not a reason to fear actually getting the "disease". You probably have no more reason to fear than if you took the cid by itself. You only need to worry if you plan on this to be a repeated event, which I hope you're not planning it to be.


you sir, would be a good teacher. Not only because you understood what most do not, but even moreso because you had the patience to type that out.


KNOW THE RISKS OF MAOI's, READ READ READ.
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yeah, i forgot to mention if i do this then I'm cleaning up my diet a week prior.


anyway guys, for once in my life, i have enough acid that i can play with it and not worry about "wasting" it. So, i will start with a 1k ug dose without the maoi first and see how that is, then if i enjoy that then i shall try it with b. caapi (many of my friends who are obsessed with ayahuasca tell me that harmaline can be murder on the stomach even though it tastes far better than caapi). Thanks all, hopefully this goes well enough to write about.

lol, you sort of just wasted you time typing that shit up. I know what the OP is trying to do, but taking consecutive tryptamines causes cross-tolerance.
r-connolly is wasting acid and you are being a melodramatic fag(lol seriously, do I have to respect the acid? I don't want to hurt it's feelings by taking too much.).

lol not only that but 500mics isn't even a conservative dose

OH, i only scanned the OP, i see what you are talking about now.

In that case, I wouldn't fuck with it. I thought he was taking ayahuasca with LSD, not just MAOI and lsd. My bad.

The only reason yuou want to take a maoi in the case of dmt is to absorb it orally. I dont understand why he wants to do that it wont really help the trip in any way.

The only reason yuou want to take a maoi in the case of dmt is to absorb it orally. I dont understand why he wants to do that it wont really help the trip in any way.

lol, did you actually think SN doesn't no that allready?

you'll trip harder fo sho and all will be just as well with the acid and MAOI as it would with just the MAOI.

like everyone else said take all the normal precautions though and you'll be fine... how do you know exactly how much acid you have?

The dose is gonna be fawkin smalk, 100-200 mix or less i bet

lol, did you actually think SN doesn't no that allready?

you'll trip harder fo sho and all will be just as well with the acid and MAOI as it would with just the MAOI.

like everyone else said take all the normal precautions though and you'll be fine... how do you know exactly how much acid you have?

The dose is gonna be fawkin smalk, 100-200 mix or less i bet
Oh no I was just adding that. I konw stupid noob knows his shit. Thats was ment more towards the op.