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 #1 
Old 2008-02-26, 06:54
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Default CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

I FINALLY have access to CP,55940!!

I have wanted to get my hands on a synthetic cannabinoid for a long time, and this seems pretty much perfect. I can get 100mg for just over 100 bucks BTW, I just want to know a few things.

I hear this stuff is very unstable (this is conflicting) and that it is supposed to be shipped on ice, which it wouldn't be with my source... on the other hand, I have heard that people vaporize it to get full effects, which would mean that it should be able to withstand some heat. How stable is this stuff?

I have also heard somewhere that powdered CP can last up to a year in a freezer (I would have it gone in less than a year) and that it will last for something like 3 months suspended in alcohol. (which is something I don't want to do, for I want to vaporize it) Does anyone know if this is true?

Also, does anyone know about toxicity, possible dangers or overdose potential of this chemical (I know it is far fetched, but it is a research chemical and I like to feel super safe about what I put in me)

Finally, has ANYONE on totse tried this chemical, and if so please take a moment to tell me what it was like for you, and tell me what your regular intake of cannabis is. (I smoke a lot of weed and thus have a high tolerance)

Thanks.
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Old 2008-02-26, 07:02
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

You sound like a tosser.
Props for having a synthetic cannabinoid, its like Christmas and you want to tell everyone about your new xbox360, right?
 #3 
Old 2008-02-26, 07:08
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I've heard good things about it. It's supposed to be super potent (something like 50 times more potent than delta-9-thc)

From what I understand, it needs to be kept at absolute zero or the quality degrades rather quickly. I could be wrong though.

I have a friend who's tried it. I'll talk to him and post more in a bit.

Check out http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=363628
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Old 2008-02-26, 08:02
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

From what I understand, it needs to be kept at absolute zero or the quality degrades rather quickly. I could be wrong though.


you could be wrong, considering absolute zero has never been reached
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Old 2008-02-26, 08:04
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

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Originally Posted by Darkus
I've heard good things about it. It's supposed to be super potent (something like 50 times more potent than delta-9-thc)

From what I understand, it needs to be kept at absolute zero or the quality degrades rather quickly. I could be wrong though.

I have a friend who's tried it. I'll talk to him and post more in a bit.

Check out http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=363628


Why didn't you just say THC? Queer.



I've been debating about whether I want this or not. I did not hear any of those things about having to keep it really cold though. That seems difficult.
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Old 2008-02-26, 09:03
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

CP can last up to a year in a freezer

Quoted for win.

Anyways, if it only has a year's half-life at 0c, the answer to "how stable is it" is somewhere along the lines of "far, far less stable than LSD." 'n yes, I believe I read somewhere that the analog in question is actually a full, rather than partial, agonist, making it one of the few purely-cannabinoid substances which could result in a fatal OD, unlike THC... if it's the analog I'm remembering.

Good luck actually finishing your sample, lol... let us know how it goes.
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Old 2008-02-26, 11:20
John Q. Adequate John Q. Adequate is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

you could be wrong, considering absolute zero has never been reached

You're a dick, but this was funny as hell.
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Old 2008-02-26, 14:37
TheSoundsOfScience TheSoundsOfScience is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Why didn't you just say THC? Queer.



I've been debating about whether I want this or not. I did not hear any of those things about having to keep it really cold though. That seems difficult.

You could be a faggot, but that's just not a strong enough word.

And yes it degrades quickly. One thing I'd like to try with this is making CP blotters and just be able to take one and be high for the next few hours :D.
 #9 
Old 2008-02-26, 16:10
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Some of those blue light boys say it's stable. I can't wait to try some...
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Old 2008-02-26, 16:50
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Quoted for win.

Anyways, if it only has a year's half-life at 0c, the answer to "how stable is it" is somewhere along the lines of "far, far less stable than LSD." 'n yes, I believe I read somewhere that the analog in question is actually a full, rather than partial, agonist, making it one of the few purely-cannabinoid substances which could result in a fatal OD, unlike THC... if it's the analog I'm remembering.

Good luck actually finishing your sample, lol... let us know how it goes.

Why do you think I will have a hard time finishing the sample??

I plan to share this chemical with my friends, and at ~5mg doses, I will only get around 20 doses.
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Old 2008-02-27, 01:27
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I thought about trying this chemical out too but if it's really that unstable and will degrade during shipping I'll pass on it.
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Old 2008-02-27, 01:30
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

CP can last up to a year in a freezer

lulz.

Also, Op knows whats up. ;)
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Old 2008-02-27, 01:39
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Why do you think I will have a hard time finishing the sample??

I plan to share this chemical with my friends, and at ~5mg doses, I will only get around 20 doses.

Drew you seriously need to hit me up at my email, you know it (my username @gmail.com)
 #14 
Old 2008-02-27, 01:40
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

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Originally Posted by Evil_Tree
Some of those blue light boys say it's stable. I can't wait to try some...


&totse > bluelight
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Old 2008-02-27, 01:45
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

You're a dick, but this was funny as hell.

That's actually a pretty nice way of putting it considering how stupid what the guy said was.

Also, I haven't seen you around in a long time. Hi.
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Old 2008-02-27, 03:07
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

CP 55940 produces cannabis-like effects in humans at a dose of 0.25 - 1 milligram
 #17 
Old 2008-02-27, 03:10
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Take it all in one huge toke :)
or at least a ridiculous amount :)
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Old 2008-02-27, 04:48
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However you found that is way beyond me...make sure to tell us how it goes.
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Old 2008-02-27, 05:06
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

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Originally Posted by DoctorMayhem
Take it all in one huge toke :)
or at least a ridiculous amount :)


Hahaha, see, this is what I am afraid of... I want to do A LOT more research before I purchase this, because if I can only keep it for a little while, while it degrades slowly the whole time... I could see myself using 10+mg per day just because it would be an awesome 10 days... but I want to find out if this will cause harm.

BTW, I just pissed my pants from hydromorphone... what the fuck!?
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Old 2008-02-27, 08:25
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Why do you think I will have a hard time finishing the sample??

Well...

and at ~5mg doses, I will only get around 20 doses.

...mostly because the vague refs I've heard tossed about suggest that your 0.1g might be closer to 200-500 doses. Then again, I've never done serious reading on it, just casual.

So...

CP 55940 produces cannabis-like effects in humans at a dose of 0.25 - 1 milligram

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_55,940

Yeah. Your dose is about an order of magnitude stronger than a median dose. Dayuhm.

Good luck finishing your 100-400 doses before spoilage - but then again, if you have enough friends, you'll do fine.
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Old 2008-02-27, 08:36
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

BTW, I just pissed my pants from hydromorphone... what the fuck!?

rep -1
 #22 
Old 2008-02-27, 08:55
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Is this stuff legal and easy to get from Canada/China or am I gonna have to search really hard to find a source?
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Old 2008-02-27, 13:06
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

I belief i have found the supplier the OP is talking about and the prices are "Ok" for such a novelty thing :)

I might aquire some because it seems something relatively interesting and exotic

We will see...
 #24 
Old 2008-02-27, 14:37
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Why didn't you just say THC? Queer.



I've been debating about whether I want this or not. I did not hear any of those things about having to keep it really cold though. That seems difficult.

man, theblackpope get dumber every post
 #25 
Old 2008-02-27, 22:32
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Ok so I just found a source that sells MANY THC derivatives, such as CB-25 and CB-52 along with cp,55940 and HU-210, all of which ive never heard of before this thread. The prices are sky high though, like 70$ for 5mg of cp,55940.
How can i figure out is this is legit..... since undrug is kaput
 #26 
Old 2008-02-27, 22:38
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Wouldn't THC derivatives have effects similar to THC and thus be like a boring expensive high?

I also remember someone somewhere saying that pure THC does not feel like weed but is rather uncomfortable and he said that the regular weed effects come from a combination of all the howevermany cannabiniods are in actual weed.

What makes the derivatives different? I need to be informed.
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Old 2008-02-27, 22:39
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

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Originally Posted by nick45174
Ok so I just found a source that sells MANY THC derivatives, such as CB-25 and CB-52 along with cp,55940 and HU-210, all of which ive never heard of before this thread. The prices are sky high though, like 70$ for 5mg of cp,55940.
How can i figure out is this is legit..... since undrug is kaput


I know the source you are talking about, and people on undrug previously said it was legit
 #28 
Old 2008-02-27, 22:41
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

I know the source too but am too cool to brag about it.
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Old 2008-02-27, 22:56
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How can that source afford to sell it so cheaply? Duhh because it doesnt exist/is a scam. Dumbass.

/thread
 #30 
Old 2008-02-28, 00:11
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

Well...



...mostly because the vague refs I've heard tossed about suggest that your 0.1g might be closer to 200-500 doses. Then again, I've never done serious reading on it, just casual.

So...

CP 55940 produces cannabis-like effects in humans at a dose of 0.25 - 1 milligram

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_55,940

Yeah. Your dose is about an order of magnitude stronger than a median dose. Dayuhm.

Good luck finishing your 100-400 doses before spoilage - but then again, if you have enough friends, you'll do fine.

All I really need to know about this chemical is, are there any adverse effects? and how much would it take for me to be in danger? I never want to do harm to my body (though I probably do) but I have a big tolerance for cannabis, so I wanted to try this in slightly larger doses than what is recommended on wiki.

I have read a few things on bluelight about people vaporizing ~3mg and saying that not only did the vaporization work, but it was very pleasurable and much better than taking the stuff orally... for I have heard that taking this chemical orally doesn't work as well as vaporization.

I want to get this chem before it is gone, but 100-150 bucks is too much for me to completely waste... if anyone finds any good texts about this chemical, please leave a link in this thread so I can do some real research, because those 10 lines on wiki and those couple dozen posts on other boards don't make me feel completely safe.
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Old 2008-02-28, 00:41
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

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Originally Posted by stealth_15
How can that source afford to sell it so cheaply? Duhh because it doesnt exist/is a scam. Dumbass.

/thread


Its most certainly real and legit, and your logic is flawed. Why can they afford to let it go so cheaply? Because it is even cheaper to make it in bulk. 1g might cost $300 to make, but they split in 10 bags, sell each for ~$125 and the chemist comes out with $950.In reality, $300 is a pretty gross overestimation as I'm almost certain the precursors are bought in bulk too.
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Old 2008-02-28, 02:35
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I know the source too but am too cool to brag about it.


I just didn't think it would be that easy to find it. Hell, it even looked like the search engine sponsored the link or something (it was bold and 1st one on the list...)
And thank you Corpse, I may just look into this place a little further.
 #33 
Old 2008-07-12, 07:17
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well what happened?Confused
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Old 2008-07-12, 07:30
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well what happened?Confused

This thread was from over 5 months ago you acolyte.


BTW the source of the CP that everyone was raving about sucked mad balls and ended up taking months to get his shit out.

I got a sample from him, it got me pretty high but not in a good pot like way. I don't like to smoke weed much so others could have different opinions.
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Old 2008-07-12, 08:15
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Default Re: CP,55940 (Synthetic Cannabinoid)

From what I understand, it needs to be kept at absolute zero or the quality degrades rather quickly. I could be wrong though.

I don't know about this particular stuff, but I remember reading several years ago that pure delta 9 THC does degrade easy and needs to be kept at a very low temp. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it wasn't absolute zero [which is 0 degree K, -273 degree C, and -460 degree F].

It couldn't be absolute zero. Nothing is at absolute zero. Because temperature is actually a measurement of the amount of energy something has - how energetic the molecules in the thing are. The less energy something has, the slower the molecules move, the slower they move, the colder it is. And at absolute zero, theoretically it has no energy, the molecules stop moving altogether, and that can't happen anymore than an object with any amount of mass can not go the speed of light faster according to the equations, just not at the speed of light exactly].

Ok, I'll stfu now [I'm loaded up on morphine and Oxy since I had to have a tooth painfully extracted earlier today...]
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Old 2008-07-12, 08:16
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I know. I made a mistake.

I'm only human, after all ;)
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Old 2008-07-12, 10:32
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...I'm loaded up on morphine and Oxy since I had to have a tooth painfully extracted earlier today...

I'm assuming this wasn't dentist prescribed lol
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Old 2008-07-12, 11:36
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This thread was from over 5 months ago you acolyte.


BTW the source of the CP that everyone was raving about sucked mad balls and ended up taking months to get his shit out.

I got a sample from him, it got me pretty high but not in a good pot like way. I don't like to smoke weed much so others could have different opinions.

Is it because they had some sort of shift in management?
Are you speaking about canada?
Because i thought that that source has fallen through a long time ago, even though they have some decent prices.
 
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