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 #1 
Old 2008-02-23, 18:51
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Default Hydromorphone Dosing question.

I've read over every erowid report and have came to some conclusions.

For the non tolerant male:

First number:to get high
Sedond number: to get fucked
4-8mg intranasally
2-4mg intravenously

I would like to know the recreational doses of oral and anal, also.

Do these seem about right?

Side question: Do you like oxycodone or hydromorphone better.
 #2 
Old 2008-02-24, 01:03
corlene corlene is offline
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as far as IV goes hydromorphone all the way! oxy's rush doesnt even compare when IV'd!
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Old 2008-02-24, 01:08
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I would like to know the recreational doses of oral and anal, also.


1 black cock, take as needed.
 #4 
Old 2008-02-24, 01:11
corlene corlene is offline
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dilaudid is horrible orally. Once youve shot it why would you ever go back to taking it orally or even snorting it? Only thing about hydromorphone is that it really has no legs(duration). Oxy does last longer even when injected.
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Old 2008-02-24, 16:01
SydMorrison SydMorrison is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

4-8mg intranasally


HM is WAYYYY fucking better than Oxy.

And yes, that dosage seems pretty good...6mg intranasally is really nice, and 8mg is even better :D

4mg gets you nicely high...but you definately want more after that.

Aren't you the guy who had that shitload of pure HM powder?
 #6 
Old 2008-02-24, 19:17
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

HM is WAYYYY fucking better than Oxy.

And yes, that dosage seems pretty good...6mg intranasally is really nice, and 8mg is even better :D

4mg gets you nicely high...but you definately want more after that.

Aren't you the guy who had that shitload of pure HM powder?

Actually you are wrong. Oxymorphone is much more powerful than hydromorphone you stupid homosexual fuck.
 #7 
Old 2008-02-24, 20:19
tweeked tweeked is offline
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Actually you are wrong. Oxymorphone is much more powerful than hydromorphone and I am a stupid homosexual fuck who thinks oxy means oxymorphone.
fix'd
oh, on hydromorphone,4mg snorted will get anyone high that has no tolerace/isnt a fat fuck.
 #8 
Old 2008-02-24, 20:24
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

HM is WAYYYY fucking better than Oxy.

And yes, that dosage seems pretty good...6mg intranasally is really nice, and 8mg is even better :D

4mg gets you nicely high...but you definately want more after that.

Aren't you the guy who had that shitload of pure HM powder?

Thank you.

No I was thinking about getting it and now I'm really going to in 1-2 weeks.
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Old 2008-02-24, 20:30
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Actually you are wrong. Oxymorphone is much more powerful than hydromorphone you stupid homosexual fuck.

Nobody said shit about Oxymorphone. They're talking about Oxycodone.
 #10 
Old 2008-02-24, 20:54
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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Nobody said shit about Oxymorphone. They're talking about Oxycodone.

seems like some one has been under the rock for a bit too long.....eh meta?


even i know that that is distortion...trolling away...
 #11 
Old 2008-02-24, 22:52
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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Meta, why haven't you been able to detect the sarcasm I type?
 #12 
Old 2008-02-24, 23:05
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naminator01
Meta, why haven't you been able to detect the sarcasm I type?


because he can't read the tone of voice you were implying?
 #13 
Old 2008-02-24, 23:39
suicide_slushy suicide_slushy is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

How experienced are you with opiates? I'm reluctant to turn this thread into a pissing contest, but I think it's a waste to snort less than 8 mg.
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Old 2008-02-24, 23:46
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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seems like some one has been under the rock for a bit too long.....eh meta?


even i know that that is distortion...trolling away...

i dont think so, its come to mind a few times, but he seems way to retarded to be distortion.
and if it was, then that motherfucker must be on totse at least 18 hours a day. fucking fag.
 #15 
Old 2008-02-24, 23:48
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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because he can't read the tone of voice you were implying?

You are a dumbass.
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Old 2008-02-25, 03:43
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by suicide_slushy
How experienced are you with opiates? I'm reluctant to turn this thread into a pissing contest, but I think it's a waste to snort less than 8 mg.


40mg of oxycontin fucks my shit up.
Vicoden doesn't effect me euphorically.
 #17 
Old 2008-02-25, 03:51
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

40mg of oxycontin fucks my shit up.
Vicoden doesn't effect me euphorically.

If 40mg Oxycodone fucks you up, then your tolerance isn't high enough to not feel hydrocodone.
 #18 
Old 2008-02-25, 04:08
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

If 40mg Oxycodone fucks you up, then your tolerance isn't high enough to not feel hydrocodone.

I'm not tolerant to opiates. Hydrocodone has never worked for me like others claim it works for them.
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Old 2008-02-25, 04:46
downwithhopeupwithdope downwithhopeupwithdope is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

The only way i feel hydrocodone is to drink at least six shots of 70 proof and smoke a bit and take like 15mgs of vics, i guarantee the black pope would feel that
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Old 2008-02-25, 05:02
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by downwithhopeupwithdope
The only way i feel hydrocodone is to drink at least six shots of 70 proof and smoke a bit and take like 15mgs of vics, i guarantee the black pope would feel that


15mg? Lol I used to pop much moar then that to get buzzed and a drunkish feeling. I'm talking on the level of euphoria, anyways.
 #21 
Old 2008-02-25, 05:31
Yorimasa Yorimasa is offline
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Ok obviously someone got very confused, because this isn't Hydrocodone we're talking about, it's hydroMORPHONE. Which, by the way, is not as good as oxymorphone. I snorted a 10mg Opana once (I think it was 10 it might have been a 20) but I was really fucked up. Anyway,
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Old 2008-02-25, 05:45
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

you decided to get it?

dont trust your mg scale for dosing, especially if you're gonna mainline it, the risk of OD is too high.
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Old 2008-02-25, 06:11
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

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Originally Posted by Aces N 8S
you decided to get it?

dont trust your mg scale for dosing, especially if you're gonna mainline it, the risk of OD is too high.


Ya, the vendor is closed for a week or two so I have to wait.

I just read some other thread that miligram scales can be off .007 which is ALOT so how the fuck am I going to measure that dose out? Have to be real careful I guess.
 #24 
Old 2008-02-25, 07:52
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

i would mix 1g of powder with 9g of cut so that the amounts are larger and easier to measure.

i know it seems stupid to cut gear that you dont plan to sell but it'll make it alot harder to be off by enough that you're in danger. just be sure to mix it completely.
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Old 2008-02-25, 11:30
Time Out Sasquatch Time Out Sasquatch is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Ya, the vendor is closed for a week or two so I have to wait.

I just read some other thread that miligram scales can be off .007 which is ALOT so how the fuck am I going to measure that dose out? Have to be real careful I guess.

Just cute the pill into 4 pieces. If it's a 4 or 8 milligram pill, the slight difference in each junk wouldn't matter.


I've also never mainlined it though, only snorted it.
 #26 
Old 2008-02-25, 13:00
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I use 16mg IV to get a real good nodd going, sometimes 20-24 when my tolerence is up (in a shot I mean), I usually use about 40-60mg a day when I can, tapering I forced myself to only do 4x2(8mg) twice daily...

but a standard hit just to feel good and keep mrs jones at bay for me is 8mg, 4mg just to take away mild w/d sickness...

dont go off shooting that much HM ppl, I worked my way up there from getting off good on just 4-6mg IV, and even at that opiate naive folks wouldn't even need that, I'd suggest starting off with only 2-4mg with no tolerence (if used iv)

Also HM is what hooked me onto that damn needle, while I agree that HM is rather wasted not IV'd, I really dont suggest trying it just b/c of that, maybe if your have no steady hookup at all for bangable oc/H/dils, it really does become a nasty habit, to those who can do it and call it a fun day and go off using it for awhile I applaud you, I clearly can't, when I'm on em I'm in it to the end...

so yeah, a bit of real work advice for ya, if u need anymore help I betcha I have more expirence with IV hydromorph than anyone else here, I use anywhere from 50-90 4s usually a month.

And to OP: Be real careful with that stuff if its pure power man, you could try to measure out doses by cutting out equal amounts, it'd take forever, but its feasable. ya know? 1g cut into 10 then each 10 into another 10, they cap those and each should be around 10mg, a decent dose to a opiate tolerent and 2-3 for a non tolerent... but yeah seriously be real carefull, especally if your spike the shit, please update on the quality, you have my interest, any more questions just post, ill try to give you the real world advice, and not mindless babble...

-oCd
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Old 2008-02-25, 13:11
oxydose oxydose is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Just cute the pill into 4 pieces. If it's a 4 or 8 milligram pill, the slight difference in each junk wouldn't matter.


I've also never mainlined it though, only snorted it.

I believe hes talking about pure hydromorphone powder, boy would I love a nice untouched 1/8 of powdered HM, wouldnt mind a partial either.. (anybody at all get that reference? its pretty easy)
 #28 
Old 2008-02-25, 13:19
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fix'd
oh, on hydromorphone,4mg snorted will get anyone high that has no tolerace/isnt a fat fuck.

You know I see a lot of ppl say stuff like that, in my expirence size has no standing what so ever with opiates, when I was a fat fucker and tolerence was low as hell I'd get puking and high all day/night off just 20mg oral of parachuted OC...

Now ive lost a shitload of weight cause I'm all twacked out on opis now with a pretty bad tolerence considering (meaning some folks just have crazy HUGE tolerenced, ya know folks on 200-300mg of Done who still bang off a gram a day, and the folks who actually do bang off 3-4grams a day, even with the cut thats a lotta dope). I'm not there, but I guess I'm bad enough, I sure do miss those days when I'd get blasted off 20mg :-( so yeah I dont really believe size has a lot to do with tolerence really...

but yeah
 #29 
Old 2008-02-25, 18:55
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

You are a dumbass.

you're a fucking faggot.
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Old 2008-02-26, 03:39
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Ya, the vendor is closed for a week or two so I have to wait.

I just read some other thread that miligram scales can be off .007 which is ALOT so how the fuck am I going to measure that dose out? Have to be real careful I guess.

Heh. I just pictured this vendor that's similar to a sidewalk hotdog vendor, that stands around going "Getchur HM here! Hydromorphone, pure and cheeeeeep!"

But then you show up one day and it says "Closed due to lack of supply :(" and there's a crowd of junkies around the vendor crying.

Oh my mind and it's funny little adventures...

Internet-Weed-Dude for the fucking LOSE.
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Old 2008-02-26, 07:20
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Internet-Weed-Dude for the fucking LOSE.

http://www.brushyourtaint.com/equalsign.jpg

FTW!!
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Old 2008-02-26, 07:26
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Heh. I just pictured this vendor that's similar to a sidewalk hotdog vendor, that stands around going "Getchur HM here! Hydromorphone, pure and cheeeeeep!"

But then you show up one day and it says "Closed due to lack of supply :(" and there's a crowd of junkies around the vendor crying.

Oh my mind and it's funny little adventures...

Internet-Weed-Dude for the fucking LOSE.

Go to Granville street on Vancouver island, the junkies get together and help one another to rip off young weed hungry out of towners ;)

I am sure this heroin hotdog stand has been done... somewhere, why not. You should DRAW it and post it here!
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Old 2008-02-26, 08:02
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done.
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Old 2008-02-26, 14:42
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Default Re: Hydromorphone Dosing question.

Ya, the vendor is closed for a week or two so I have to wait.

I just read some other thread that miligram scales can be off .007 which is ALOT so how the fuck am I going to measure that dose out? Have to be real careful I guess.

a) Liquid dilution method as I already told you in another thread.
b) That vendor is supposedly coming back private and that'd mean if you haven't ordered before you're fucked.
c) Internet-Weed-Dude isn't distortion.... He's too dumb. Distortion actually knows some shit...
 
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