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Old 2008-02-22, 11:31
Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing is offline
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Default Morphine, valium, methadone

What are appropriate dosages for IV'ing morphine for a first timer? I am about 82kg; don't know what that is in pounds, and am also 6'1. Also what are appropriate dosages for valium. Plus what is the proper name of the stuff that they give kids with ADD/ADHD, it's speed based and people I know reffer to them as decksie's?
And I can get methadone, can you get high off of that? If so dosages would be nice.



All info provided is appreciated,
cheers, Fear and Loathing
p.s. info in layman's terms would be nice as I'm kind of a noob at this kind of stuff.
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Old 2008-02-22, 12:33
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

iv never IV'd morphine, and ive heard you really shouldnt do it unless you got a vial of liquid. you plan on cooking up pills? or do you have a vial?

as for valium if you dont have a benzo tolerence, i would say 30-40mg.

for add/adhd. they either give ritalin/concerta,(Methylphenidate) or adderal.(Dexamphetamine)

methadone is what they give for recovering opiate adicts. and yes you can get high off it. 10-20mg for starting dose. 10mg actually will get you going for your first time. and methadone usually last a good amount of hours.

and just on a side note for methadone on personal experiences, dont mix it with any other opiates. i get sick when i do. especially with methadone + morphine. like breathing problems. dont know if its just me. and ive heard that sinse methadone is an "opiate blocker" it should never be mixed with other opiates.
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Old 2008-02-22, 18:21
xxdarksidexx xxdarksidexx is offline
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

Id say 20 mg of valium for you,youre not that heavy.First time iv no tolerance,probably 10 mgs of morph and go from there.When you got it in the vein just keep adding more till you get the rush.Do this slowly and cautiously.This is what users do when they cant really tell how much to do.If youre good enough youre vein can tell you how much to take.Load up about 20 mgs and keep pushin once youre in the vein till you catch the rush then pull out.Those could be pure dexedrines youre talkin about, and it probably is.Some people refer to adderall around here as dexies though too.So either one.Later.
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Old 2008-02-22, 23:10
Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing is offline
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

Yeah the morphine is in liquid, the mum of the guy who can get it for me his mum is a nurse, so it'll be in a bottle, not a vial. Cheers for all the info people.
Now, should I snort adderall/dexedrine, and if so how much? And I'm getting all this stuff for a particular weekend so what drugs should I not mix; aside from the morph and methadone?




Cheers,
Fear and Loathing
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Old 2008-02-22, 23:39
whitelightning whitelightning is offline
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

you can mix opiates n Valium, but i wouldnt mix opiates/benzos(downers) with the dextroamphetamine(upper) as that will confuse your heart. Save the speed for another day or night. n save the valium for when you start to crash off the speed so you can sleep.

thats about all the advice i can give.
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Old 2008-02-23, 00:20
KamikazePimp KamikazePimp is offline
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

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Originally Posted by whitelightning
you can mix opiates n Valium, but i wouldnt mix opiates/benzos(downers) with the dextroamphetamine(upper) as that will confuse your heart. Save the speed for another day or night. n save the valium for when you start to crash off the speed so you can sleep.

thats about all the advice i can give.


Best advice IMO.

--KP
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Old 2008-02-23, 02:12
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

is no one going to mention that hes a fucking retard for choosing to IV when he has no tolerance?

or that mixing IV opiates and benzos with no experience is just asking for respiratory depression and OD?

look man, the needle is the refuge of the junkie. if you're not addicted and spending all your money to fund your habbit there is no need to take the risk of IV administration.
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Old 2008-02-23, 02:42
kelz kelz is offline
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Default Re: Morphine, valium, methadone

i have to agree with the above post - this is pretty heavy to be taking such drastic measures for a person with no prior experience, or not a great knowledge of their tolerance to specific drugs - what type of mission do you have in mind? to have a good time or possibly destroy yourself - i mean wouldnt it be better to avoid the "iv" and plug yourself, or even oral administration of the morphine, but most consider this a waste - as is it only 30% effective - or something along those lines as ive previously read, and as for combining the uppers, thats along the wrong passage of thought, save them for another time,
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