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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-02-20, 06:11
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Would this PIll Press Work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Press-Pill-Press-Tablet-press-Pill-Maker-vitamin_W0QQitemZ250216797694QQihZ015QQcategoryZ26 420QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
? It looks really fucking simple like any idiot could have made it.
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#2
 2008-02-20, 06:15
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Get an 'Herbal Vita-press'
I have been wanting one for a long time, but I have been waiting for the prices to go down (which they have a fair bit)
I just currently don't have a use for it. (I assume you will be using this for RC's so be careful not to send out pills with something like 2c-t-7 or 2c-e in them, cause people love to snort pills for some reason) When I do have a use for it, I will certainly go straight to the herbal vita-press. It comes in two sizes also.
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#3
 2008-02-20, 06:17
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incorporated 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Usually pressing shit requires a bit more pressure than just having to, "tap lightly a few times with a hammer or mallet."
If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Get an 'Herbal Vita-press'
I have been wanting one for a long time, but I have been waiting for the prices to go down (which they have a fair bit)
I just currently don't have a use for it. (I assume you will be using this for RC's so be careful not to send out pills with something like 2c-t-7 or 2c-e in them, cause people love to snort pills for some reason) When I do have a use for it, I will certainly go straight to the herbal vita-press. It comes in two sizes also.
That's what this is, read the description. Does it really work with such little pressure?
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#4
 2008-02-20, 06:25
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
It is only 60 bucks or so on ebay right now.
I don't get it though. You put the 2c-e in it and then hit it w/ a hammer and wallah, you have a 2ce pill? What about the other binders/fillers?
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#5
 2008-02-20, 06:27
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incorporated 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
It is only 60 bucks or so on ebay right now.
I don't get it though. You put the 2c-e in it and then hit it w/ a hammer and wallah, you have a 2ce pill? What about the other binders/fillers?
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No. You would put an appropriate amount of 2C-E combined with enough binder/filler to fill the die. Then you hope your scrawny ass can pound the shit out of that cheap-ass press, otherwise you're going to have to carry them in bubblewrap to ensure they don't break down.
Why not just do vials of liquid, man?
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#6
 2008-02-20, 06:29
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Why not just do vials of liquid, man?
blackpope isn't very smart if you haven't noticed so far
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#7
 2008-02-20, 06:31
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incorporated 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
blackpope isn't very smart if you haven't noticed so far
I haven't forgotten the "FUCK YOU ACOLYTE" icon... It just discourages me that he's been here for a while.
What ever happened to eprime?
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#8
 2008-02-20, 06:45
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
What ever happened to eprime?
as far as i know he got hooked on meth and became some poet fag
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#9
 2008-02-20, 07:03
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Why not just do vials of liquid, man?
I'm not about to sell vials of liquid to people who think I'm already a weirdo for buying large amounts of some weird ass drug.
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#10
 2008-02-20, 07:12
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
My friend bought this and said it was a piece of shit. He researched a lot on what binders and fillers to use and he never got a good end result. Stick with putting the shit in gel caps or vials of liquid. Quit trying to market your RC's as things that they're not. First it was putting 2c-e on blotter and now it's making your RC's into pressed pills.
Fuck, just sell it as is to people or in liquid or capped form. Those are really your only options.
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#11
 2008-02-20, 07:15
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
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Originally Posted by TheSoundsOfScience
My friend bought this and said it was a piece of shit. He researched a lot on what binders and fillers to use and he never got a good end result. Stick with putting the shit in gel caps or vials of liquid. Quit trying to market your RC's as things that they're not. First it was putting 2c-e on blotter and now it's making your RC's into pressed pills.
Fuck, just sell it as is to people or in liquid or capped form. Those are really your only options.
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I said I was over that idea.
You are dumb for thinking that pressing the pills means I'm marketing them as something there not.
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#12
 2008-02-20, 07:19
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TheSoundsOfScience 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
I said I was over that idea.
You are dumb for thinking that pressing the pills means I'm marketing them as something there not.
Then why are you going through the hassle of buying a $60 pill press that can only do one pill at a time, along with dealing with all the binders and fillers instead of just capping the powder in gel caps? Shit, if you don't think that looks cool enough do a liquid dilution method and add some sugar and food coloring to the liquid so that when it evaps you're left with a colored, powdered product that looks like more than the actual amount of the drug is. There's a thread on how to do it if you search liquid measurement.
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#13
 2008-02-20, 07:23
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Then why are you going through the hassle of buying a $60 pill press that can only do one pill at a time, along with dealing with all the binders and fillers instead of just capping the powder in gel caps? Shit, if you don't think that looks cool enough do a liquid dilution method and add some sugar and food coloring to the liquid so that when it evaps you're left with a colored, powdered product that looks like more than the actual amount of the drug is. There's a thread on how to do it if you search liquid measurement.
I would rather just weight out the dose and put it in a gelcap then trying to make it look bigger or cooler then it really is. Again, a dumb idea.
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#14
 2008-02-20, 07:30
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Get an 'Herbal Vita-press'
That is what he is talking about.
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#15
 2008-02-20, 08:06
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
I would rather just weight out the dose and put it in a gelcap then trying to make it look bigger or cooler then it really is. Again, a dumb idea.
I SAID to weight out the dose as it is and put it in a gel-cap, but if you thought that "didn't look cool enough" then you could use that other method. Judging from the fact that you're willing to spend 60 bucks on a pill press to make something look more appealing, I generally think that you're interested in how your product looks. I think you're just trying to make ME look like someone who tries to fuck with his customers by doing that kind of shit to his caps. I've NEVER done something like that; I've always sold the powder as is in normal, clear gel caps and gave the customers the EXACT dosage.
In other words, fucking a, just use some goddam gel caps. You don't need to spend $60 on a piece of shit pill press that doesn't work.
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#16
 2008-02-20, 19:49
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
FFS use dextrin for your binder.
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#17
 2008-02-20, 20:07
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
gel caps ftw, they look a lot more pro than some crumbly ass pills.
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#18
 2008-02-20, 22:23
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
For nigger's sake put it in a capsule then pack a bunch of inert powder (ie cornstarch) and be liek dis is da shit homz!
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#19
 2008-02-20, 23:12
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
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Originally Posted by Evil_Tree
gel caps ftw, they look a lot more pro than some crumbly ass pills.
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Also this. Any pills you make in the vita-press won't have any sort of coating on them so you will be left with a crumbly, chemically tasting pill.
I even saw a video of someone using GHB powder as a binder and having the end product turn out pretty well  .
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#20
 2008-02-20, 23:15
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
http://cgi.ebay.com/Press-Pill-Press-Tablet-press-Pill-Maker-vitamin_W0QQitemZ250216797694QQihZ015QQcategoryZ26 420QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
? It looks really fucking simple like any idiot could have made it.
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Both you and the seller are idiots. The seller said it was never used yet says it works perfectly.
It's a fucking scam.
Read more carefully before you present us with shit.
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#21
 2008-02-20, 23:27
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Both you and the seller are idiots. The seller said it was never used yet says it works perfectly.
It's a fucking scam.
Read more carefully before you present us with shit.
Shhhhhhh.... he still thinks his 2ce source isn't a scam.
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#22
 2008-02-20, 23:32
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
god damn theblackpope is stupid
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#23
 2008-02-21, 02:03
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
I made a "pill Press" add on for my BP Press. It does 3 at a time and works fast.
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#24
 2008-02-21, 02:13
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Yeah, you could make a modded black powder press with a car jack and press decent pills, but I'd still want a light coating on 'em so they just don't turn to dust in the bag when people pocket 'em. Maybe like sugar and gelatin maybe?
Another plus of the gel cap is if people wanna sniff it it's real easy, no binders and shit to fill their schnoz, no fucking around chopping it and spraying it all over the floor, like prior stated, gelcaps FTW...
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#25
 2008-02-21, 03:04
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
the last time me an some associates were looking into a pillpress - the real thing and top quality i can recal the price in the 6000$us price and it did multiple -cant remember in the 1000 or hundred pills per time, i imagine this is how the bigger players do it, mainly for the mdma, which i now think has alot of meth is added as the filler agent as "they aint quite what they used to be"
i have seen a very cheap alternative, that just basically fills 100 "OO" gelatine capsules where one half of the capsule is inserted into a grid of 100 holes, and they are leveled in the grid, and then the powder you desire is mixed accordingly with the filler and hopfully has an equal consistency, and then the powder is spread into the half of the gelatine capsule until it reaches level with the hole it is sitting in (excess powder is leveled of into a bag for next time, and the other half of the grid with the other 100 holes drilled into with the other half of the gelatine caps are in opposite direction - it to accomadate the top half of the gelatine caps - which are then spun around so they are directly above the prefilled lower caps, the the final step is basically they are compressed so the smaller half of the capsule fits into the larger capsule, and hopefully you have a accurately mixed 100 capsules, they are then released, and hey presto, 100 caps, without any mess and all done in very little time, and no time consuming having to use a tiny metal stip to try to fill the caps, loose any product and getting the worst is what i believe, dirty unhygenic hands having handle them , - this though is where the pill press would rule supreme - the marketing ability to have your own designer lablel, and actually a pharmaceutical grade looking tablet -not some gelatine tablet, that could be "who knows what" would probably quickly pay for itself - a pill press is just not the type of thing you can put in your pocket though, and make a hasty retreat with -
thats just a bit of rant i had from a few years ago, so its probably well outdated, wouldnt have a clue what techniques go on these days, so if its redundant "excuse me and dont flame me" i have a dead set paranoia of being set alight on fire, as my best mate once was, but lived and had skin grafts taken from his buttocks to help cover the scaring - now the girls dont say he has a cute butt any more "haha
i recall about a year ago a guy believed that if you get one of those old home brewcappers - where it it a handle with a metal peice at the other end and you added some metal inside to make pill shape then had another metal surface and banged the shit out of it you would end up with a pressed pill - but crumbly - so dont know if that much good at all -
take it easy all
Kelz
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#26
 2008-02-21, 04:43
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jator 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Just put it in a gelcap man, save yourself the time and energy.
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#27
 2008-02-21, 05:27
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
It is only 60 bucks or so on ebay right now.
Use that money to buy a metal-lathe and make it yourself.
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#28
 2008-02-21, 05:39
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
You know the way that real RC thugs pass out RC doses? Dissolved in water in the bottom of a water bottle, discrete as fuck...
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#29
 2008-02-21, 05:47
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Self control is for pussies
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
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Originally Posted by Evil_Tree
You know the way that real RC thugs pass out RC doses? Dissolved in water in the bottom of a water bottle, discrete as fuck...
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Actually, thats the only way I've boughten RCs. As a matter of fact I have a water bottle with DOC in it in my roommates fridge.
The only other thing I've seen rc's get sold in was little glass vials.
If you're going to sell RC's, a pill press is not the way to go.
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#30
 2008-02-21, 08:01
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
I just sold it in the corner of a sandwich bag..
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#31
 2008-02-21, 09:07
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Fuck, why not save time and money and just use small bits of toilet paper? If its for personal use that is.
Just tear a small bit off, put the bump in the paper, fold it up and around the powder to make a pouch, twist shut, lick it to make it stick.
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#32
 2008-02-21, 09:26
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
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Originally Posted by The Death Monkey
Fuck, why not save time and money and just use small bits of toilet paper? If its for personal use that is.
Just tear a small bit off, put the bump in the paper, fold it up and around the powder to make a pouch, twist shut, lick it to make it stick.
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Shit, I even sold it like this to customers before I got gel caps and even then I got no complaints. Just find a market for them.
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#33
 2008-02-23, 03:20
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Shhhhhhh.... he still thinks his 2ce source isn't a scam.
Hard to imadgine when it is sitting in my pocket.
Why do you think that? I have different names on every board I visit.
Or your just making an LOL.
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#34
 2008-02-23, 03:57
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
Why do you think that?
because you're an autistic fucking moron
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#35
 2008-02-23, 14:44
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
because you're an autistic fucking moron
You're still a troll. And explain what you said earlier.
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#36
 2008-02-23, 21:08
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Would this PIll Press Work?
You're still a troll. And explain what you said earlier.
You're still not getting any smarter. And I'm not going to explain shit to a goddamn retard who doesn't fucking listen in the first place.
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