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 #1 
Old 2008-02-16, 06:32
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Chicagos
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you know when you smoke salvia and you basically blackout and forget about existence, completely detached from reality, has that ever happened to you on any other substance?
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:36
Blow5hitUp Blow5hitUp is offline
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thats why i only smoked salvia once
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:36
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Supposed lsd.

2 windowpanes. of the blue liquid rocked my world changed me alot.

I was lost in the peak and my freind gave me some xanax cause the visuals were literally burning my eyes and was really pissin me off. went from laying on the floor looking at my table and astonished as how it just melted off into space forever like a wooden river.

snapped back when at the fridge a couple hours later.
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:39
inspiron42000 inspiron42000 is offline
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Datura it did for me.
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:53
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Chicagos
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no one talked about datura until like a month ago
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Old 2008-02-16, 07:29
inspiron42000 inspiron42000 is offline
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I would HIGHLY recommend it.

You can boil it, just eat it right off the plant (prob some growing in your neighborhood when weater gets nice) and your in for the time of your fucking life man-- Better than shrooms, better than acid.

Definitly look into getting some ASAP.
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Old 2008-02-16, 07:54
buster_hymen buster_hymen is offline
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Ketamine is also really good at this, and I'd easily rank ketamine above salvia, personally.
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Old 2008-02-16, 10:16
geezus666 geezus666 is offline
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Originally Posted by jkrunis5151
no one talked about datura until like a month ago


people have been talking about datura for years...where have you been?
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Old 2008-02-16, 13:00
whitelightning whitelightning is offline
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my friends name is buster and we call him bust er hymen

thats funny


i also have a friend name nick witmer we call him dick shitmer.

dont know why but we do.

datura will never enter my body.
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Old 2008-02-16, 13:45
spencetron spencetron is offline
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I have experienced this on salvia, DMT, and high doses of mushrooms (~8g) on MAOI's. I really wish I could get my hands on some ketamine though.
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Old 2008-02-16, 16:00
Keurslager Keurslager is offline
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I have experienced this on salvia, DMT, and high doses of mushrooms (~8g) on MAOI's. I really wish I could get my hands on some ketamine though.


All at the same time? :O
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Old 2008-02-16, 16:14
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Ketamine is also really good at this, and I'd easily rank ketamine above salvia, personally.


You probably haven't smoked salvia correctly. I've known lots of people who say salvia sucks, simply because they're doing it wrong. If you use a bong with a screen and a torch rather than a normal lighter you will be FUCKED. then you won't want to smoke it again.
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Old 2008-02-16, 17:17
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I felt like this on a 3rd plat. dxm trip, never on salvia(probably because the few times I tried it I never broke through)
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Old 2008-02-16, 17:31
ingutted ingutted is offline
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people have been talking about datura for years...where have you been?
i think he means that recently there has been an explosion of datura threads recently, comparatively speaking.
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Old 2008-02-16, 18:23
geezus666 geezus666 is offline
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You probably haven't smoked salvia correctly. I've known lots of people who say salvia sucks, simply because they're doing it wrong. If you use a bong with a screen and a torch rather than a normal lighter you will be FUCKED. then you won't want to smoke it again.

true story.
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Old 2008-02-16, 19:42
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I lost complete touch with reality on my first trip on magic mushrooms. I had to strain to remember who I was or anything else about my life.
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Old 2008-02-16, 20:31
buster_hymen buster_hymen is offline
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You probably haven't smoked salvia correctly. I've known lots of people who say salvia sucks, simply because they're doing it wrong. If you use a bong with a screen and a torch rather than a normal lighter you will be FUCKED. then you won't want to smoke it again.

I have smoked salvia properly. It really isn't that complicated. Use a torch lighter and hold in your hits for 30+ seconds. If you keep this in mind, it's hard to not smoke it properly.

It's simply about which experience I prefer. I do not enjoy the body load of salvia, it makes me feel kind of sick/clammy, the gravity effects piss me off, and on top of that, I find the sense of vertigo/discombobulation I get from salvia to be unenjoyable, compared to the discombobulation ketamine causes. Ketamine, as far as dissociative psychedelics go, is more effective at propelling my consciousness where I want it to be, while having fewer drawbacks. It also lasts longer and mixes well with lots of other drugs (LSD, for instance.)

Salvia is interesting and all, but I very rarely get the desire to do it. Ketamine, however, is good almost anytime. I also find the nuances of the perceptual/visual effects of ketamine appeal more to my philosophy/world view than salvia does, although the dimensional warping effects salvia causes, and the places your consciousness/perception can go are pretty novel and all...

Ketamine is also a very novel experience, assuming your dose is sufficient to get psychedelic effects. Ketamine is plenty immersive for me, and is capable of maintaining a steady appeal, for me... which I suppose can be either good or bad, depending on how worried I am about addiction potential.

It's a matter of preference. I'd rather do ketamine any day than salvia. I enjoy the effects of ketamine more. Both are powerful, strange drugs, but ketamine holds more appeal in my eyes, by a long shot.
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Old 2008-02-16, 23:54
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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Originally Posted by jkrunis5151
no one talked about datura until like a month ago


You're dumb.
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Old 2008-02-17, 02:40
ate ate is offline
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people have been talking about datura for years...where have you been?

Lolmerlin.
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Old 2008-02-18, 14:52
pyrozarc pyrozarc is offline
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Originally Posted by whitelightning
my friends name is buster and we call him bust er hymen

thats funny


i also have a friend name nick witmer we call him dick shitmer.

dont know why but we do.

datura will never enter my body.


Ahahaha. Reading this made me piss my pants.
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Old 2008-02-18, 15:35
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Chicagos
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You're dumb.

its true, i used to enter bltc and basically not see anything about datura, now i see multiple threads a week.... can i have a witness?
 
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