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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-02-10, 07:31
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Tadgh 
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Datura play-by-play.
okay, so a few weeks ago i ordered datura stramonium seeds from a certain wellknown online botanical shop. I read tons of trip reports, ranging from people taking 5 seeds to 200 seeds (obviously someone is taking a different type of datura). anyway, a few weeks ago i started out in increments of 10 seeds (every 2 hours for the first 4 hours, then every hour, then i just downed the rest of the bag), and ended up taking about 250 throughout the day, at the end of the day i got horrible cottonmouth, and serious dehydration, but that was it (so i made up for lost time with coke, weed, and a few hits of acid, but thats another story entirely).
So, i took 165 seeds about 4 hours and 20 minutes ago, and had no reaction. So, being the slightly suicidal and very adventurous (and stupid) psychonaut that i am, i upped the dose by about 500 little black seeds. There is barely any solid information on datura out there, so i hope this will help any future datura users and possibly discredit a certain botanical shop.
lets keep track of total dose and time here:
T + (-4:00) 165 little black Datura Stramonium Seeds
T + (00:00) 500 (about) Datura Stramonium Seeds.
I guess that makes this T + 00:20
no effects yet (obviously)
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#2
 2008-02-10, 07:33
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Troll.
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#3
 2008-02-10, 07:38
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
I hope you die trying to claw your way though the black shapes that haunt your vision for the next few days.
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#4
 2008-02-10, 07:57
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
You'd be better off looking for a tree somewhere. :)
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#5
 2008-02-10, 08:14
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Firstly if you are sincere with this thread, then this is about a far as your getting with a cohesive/coherent time line...
lets keep track of total dose and time here:
T + (-4:00) 165 little black Datura Stramonium Seeds
T + (00:00) 500 (about) Datura Stramonium Seeds.
I guess that makes this T + 00:20
And the only good thing about abusing Datura is that it's a cheap way to obtain cigarettes. :D
.peace.
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#6
 2008-02-10, 08:40
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Firstly if you are sincere with this thread, then this is about a far as your getting with a cohesive/coherent time line...
And the only good thing about abusing Datura is that it's a cheap way to obtain cigarettes. :D
.peace.
i am sincere, and yeah, i'm waiting for a phantom joint.
You'd be better off looking for a tree somewhere. :)
i should try that next.
I hope you die trying to claw your way though the black shapes that haunt your vision for the next few days.
i hope i used enough to get even that much
okay, so now its 3:38, so i guess that makes it
T + (1:29)
mouth is dry. when i drink a glass of water i'm cottonmouthed a minute later, thats about it. Good sign but nowhere near enough.
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#7
 2008-02-10, 08:48
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
One of these day's i'm gonna make a tea.
We'll both go insane together. :)
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#8
 2008-02-10, 08:49
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
go get the number for poison control....
-.-
by the way
i bought a nifty pack of 10 poison control stickers
and it came a free refrigerator magnet
on e-bay for merely 9.50 USD, thats including the S/H
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#9
 2008-02-10, 09:15
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Tadgh 
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by silverballs
One of these day's i'm gonna make a tea.
We'll both go insane together. :)
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that would be most exellent.
go get the number for poison control....
-.-
by the way
i bought a nifty pack of 10 poison control stickers
and it came a free refrigerator magnet
on e-bay for merely 9.50 USD, thats including the S/H
you may a have point, aside from having a great deal.
T + (2: fuck it, you can look at the clock yourself, i just tried doin ghe math and my brain isn't working....)
^^ due to that, i thnk its working.
i just was at the deli wondering what i was going to buy, and then i said "man, this guy must think we are high, coming here twice in a few hours" , then i wonder what shirt i'm wearing, realize i'm not wearing a shirt, and tehn realize i'm on my couch.
that might be another sign its working.
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#10
 2008-02-10, 09:28
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
http://i25.tinypic.com/65setl.jpg
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#11
 2008-02-10, 10:50
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
damn your about to be crazed motherfucker for a day or 2
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#12
 2008-02-10, 11:17
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Yeah we'll see you on the other side.
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#13
 2008-02-10, 20:52
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
that would be most exellent.
you may a have point, aside from having a great deal.
T + (2: fuck it, you can look at the clock yourself, i just tried doin ghe math and my brain isn't working....)
^^ due to that, i thnk its working.
i just was at the deli wondering what i was going to buy, and then i said "man, this guy must think we are high, coming here twice in a few hours" , then i wonder what shirt i'm wearing, realize i'm not wearing a shirt, and tehn realize i'm on my couch.
that might be another sign its working.
i lold hard. Keep up the reports while you still have fingers.
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#14
 2008-02-10, 21:04
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Mustafio's mother was a healthy baby about two years old. She would ignore Mustafio when he reached to hold her, instead she would squat and urinate on the floor. This was a typically patronizing moment, but behind the new dressing was a lad who would never be lacking in fare passage.
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#15
 2008-02-11, 05:37
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Too bad the next update will be like in 3 days and this nigga will have a broken nose and a skinned penis.
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#16
 2008-02-11, 06:13
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
(so i made up for lost time with coke, weed, and a few hits of acid, but thats another story entirely).
Ya, because someone who could get cocaine and LSD would pay money for datura seeds.
LOL@the faggot.
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#17
 2008-02-11, 06:43
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
you know you can like, pick it up off the ground, probably within a hundred yards of where you are
and not take some shitty websites shit seeds
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#18
 2008-02-11, 07:50
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Any updates??
Do you still have you peanus. If your reading this, your peanus is between your legs, you suppose to cut it off.
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#19
 2008-02-11, 11:48
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
I don't think hes comming back!
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#20
 2008-02-11, 12:13
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
LOL. Your gonna die dude!
naw. But your gonna be tripping hard for a couple days lol.
Loved that your hallucinating already. Keep up the lol stories!
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#21
 2008-02-11, 14:24
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
I think he's gone.
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#22
 2008-02-11, 15:59
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
troll?
if not this should be interesting... well not for him probably.. .. terrifying.. mind bending... and soul shattering maybe....
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#23
 2008-02-11, 17:08
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
If this dude really did it wonder where he is right now...
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#24
 2008-02-11, 17:20
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Troll is the new 'in' word here on totse. Jesus Christ.
I don't think this kid was trolling...in fact he had an interesting idea going here...until he strolled into oblivion. OP, give us an update when you return from the other side.
And no, not just anyone has datura growing 100 yards from where they are. I lived in a town that had none growing anywhere near me that I could find...and I drove around in the back roads alot while I smoked pot. None of the greenhouses carried them either...and it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy online, I know buying HBW seeds online is usually a better idea than going to your local bumfuck greenhouse and getting low quality 'knockoffs'
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#25
 2008-02-11, 17:30
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
discussing datura sources is not allowed
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#26
 2008-02-11, 23:03
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Ya, because someone who could get cocaine and LSD would pay money for datura seeds.
LOL@the faggot.
actually, yeah, because datura seemed fucking crazy, and i didn't believe that it was as crazy as people made it sound. I was wrong , they were right.
discussing datura sources is not allowed
i'm well aware, which is why i didn't give the actual name of the company in the beginning. Thankfully there will be no need to discredit them because it sure as hell worked.
Time completely changed. Everything in my vision began vibrating violently (curtains, rugs, tables, myself) . Some "visions" took hours whereas some only took a minute, but felt like ages. At one point in the night i tried to record the visions but because my eyes would not fucking focus i couldn't even read what i was typing and the brightness of the screen made my head pound. I honestly don't remember the second half of the trip. I do however, remember swimming with my girlfriend in hawaii (or some other tropical beach that my mind created). We were having a ton of fun, she told me i should play volleyball with the natives and i said i was horrible at volleyball but i'd play if she wanted me to, then i stood up and once again, i was in my room.
Thats about the time i realized she was my EX-girlfriend and that i had once again imagined myself in an artificial setting, and that at the time i completely believed i was there. This same scenario basically repeated itself many times over, the only other two i remember with detail are vietnam (not gonna lie, i was shitting mental bricks) and my old highschool (which was a shitload of fun). The day after i woke up at 4pm naked in my room with my body pressed up against the window (which isn't that strange for me to do to be honest, but i don't remember ever undressing). My only worry is that my neighbors saw my naked self being displayed to the world. When i woke up my coordination was still very off and i felt incredibly weak. I noticed that everything was still vibrating but i figured that was just a lingering side effect. I also noticed that parts of my ceiling had little rectangular holes in them, this left me puzzled until i noticed a [steak] knife imbedded in the ceiling in the other room.
I then walked downstairs and had the most painful vomitting session of my life. I was very distressed to see that only a few little seeds had not been digested. Then i decided to go to the bathroom and sat on the toilet. Then i decided i was going to check the mail because i was expecting a few textbooks to be delivered soon. I was most dissapointed to see that there was no package for me but there was a huge stack of Women's magazines for my aunt who lives upstairs, there were also about 6 cats napping on my stoop and when tehy say me they ran for their lives.
Thats when i realized i was still in Datura's grasp, because i was still on the shitter with my pants down. This "vision" wasn't nearly as unrealistic as the other ones, but it still wasn't reality. This was a scary realization. note to any future datura users: If the carpet and curtains are still shaking violently, you're still tripping. I then once again tried to write another installment, but i still couldn't read becauase each word turned into a huge blur. I kept thinking that little specks of dirt were actually spiders because my vision was so bad and i felt so paranoid, i ended up hitting my walls alot thinking that i was trying to kill a spider.
My eyesight is still shitty compared to what i'd call "normal" for myself, but its bearable. My appetite returned about an hour ago.
Datura by itself was actually alot more enjoyable than datura with coke, acid and bud. Now i know that the acid i was taking wasn't "uber strong" as i thought it was, and that it was actually the datura that sent me into another world altogether.
Here's my final assessment:
Negative Aspects;
Poor Coordination
Unable to see clearly for at least 48 hours
Unable to think clearly (delirium)
Can be hard to come back to reality when needed
Complete dissociation at times ( i felt as though i was watching life rather than being alive at times)
Positive Aspects;
Could be compared to lucid dreaming while concious/semi-concious
thats about it
My Datura Trials are done (for now). Suprisingly i never left my house (probably because it was so fucking windy and cold yesterday), and did not destroy much. Oh, and a few of my friends called me to ask me if i was alright, even though i don't remember telling them that i was going to use datura, they said i sounded completely normal on the phone.
BEWARE THE WORST COTTONMOUTH YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE
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#27
 2008-02-11, 23:14
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Whoa I thought this was going to be another troll thread but that was a really good read!
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#28
 2008-02-11, 23:16
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Best troll I've seen in awhile.
+1
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#29
 2008-02-12, 00:26
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by tordek battlehammer
Whoa I thought this was going to be another troll thread but that was a really good read!
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Thanks, i'm glad someone appreciated it. I had fun reading the responses such as "i wonder where he is now", because i was wondering the same thing.
Best troll I've seen in awhile.
+1
heheh. Trolls lack the imagination to create such a story, thankfully.
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#30
 2008-02-12, 01:24
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Nah your still gay
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#31
 2008-02-12, 01:27
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
@ Tadgh: Pretty good write up, and glad you safely made it through that experience. I must say, you have some set of balls to fuxk with datura like you say you do...  you said this was your second time?
I got to be honest, I've always been quite interested in the idea of a datura trip but I'm personally scared shit of actually going through with such.
I'm too worried about the fact that I'd be so delirious and while clearly imagining with certainty that I'm talking to an old time friend (or whatever the case maybe) that I in reality would have already left my house and be unconscious of my true actions...
See hallucinogens are different, no matter how heavy the dose may be I can still to some degree be certain that I've just taken a substance which has resulted in why I'm seeing what I'm seeing and feeling like I'm feeling. BUT with datura you totally lose grip of reality, which can also happen with a heavy hallucinogenic dose but the only difference with datura is that you are unaware that you've lost a grip on reality - which is quite frightening. Completely delusional...
And the fact that you can become completely unaware and unconscious of your true actions is what scares me most and is also the reason why most who fuxk with datura end up arrested or at the hospital...
.peace.
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#32
 2008-02-12, 01:29
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Very interesting trip report +1 mate!
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#33
 2008-02-12, 02:36
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
How the FUCK did you make it out alive without a sitter?!
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#34
 2008-02-13, 07:15
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by spartan_420
How the FUCK did you make it out alive without a sitter?!
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Totse was the sitter
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#35
 2008-02-13, 07:42
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Totse is the sitter
Fixed
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#36
 2008-02-13, 07:56
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by Before the Opiate
Totse is the sitter
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Totse is the shiter
FIXED
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#37
 2008-02-13, 08:01
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
actually, yeah, because datura seemed fucking crazy, and i didn't believe that it was as crazy as people made it sound. I was wrong , they were right.
i'm well aware, which is why i didn't give the actual name of the company in the beginning. Thankfully there will be no need to discredit them because it sure as hell worked.
Time completely changed. Everything in my vision began vibrating violently (curtains, rugs, tables, myself) . Some "visions" took hours whereas some only took a minute, but felt like ages. At one point in the night i tried to record the visions but because my eyes would not fucking focus i couldn't even read what i was typing and the brightness of the screen made my head pound. I honestly don't remember the second half of the trip. I do however, remember swimming with my girlfriend in hawaii (or some other tropical beach that my mind created). We were having a ton of fun, she told me i should play volleyball with the natives and i said i was horrible at volleyball but i'd play if she wanted me to, then i stood up and once again, i was in my room.
Thats about the time i realized she was my EX-girlfriend and that i had once again imagined myself in an artificial setting, and that at the time i completely believed i was there. This same scenario basically repeated itself many times over, the only other two i remember with detail are vietnam (not gonna lie, i was shitting mental bricks) and my old highschool (which was a shitload of fun). The day after i woke up at 4pm naked in my room with my body pressed up against the window (which isn't that strange for me to do to be honest, but i don't remember ever undressing). My only worry is that my neighbors saw my naked self being displayed to the world. When i woke up my coordination was still very off and i felt incredibly weak. I noticed that everything was still vibrating but i figured that was just a lingering side effect. I also noticed that parts of my ceiling had little rectangular holes in them, this left me puzzled until i noticed a [steak] knife imbedded in the ceiling in the other room.
I then walked downstairs and had the most painful vomitting session of my life. I was very distressed to see that only a few little seeds had not been digested. Then i decided to go to the bathroom and sat on the toilet. Then i decided i was going to check the mail because i was expecting a few textbooks to be delivered soon. I was most dissapointed to see that there was no package for me but there was a huge stack of Women's magazines for my aunt who lives upstairs, there were also about 6 cats napping on my stoop and when tehy say me they ran for their lives.
Thats when i realized i was still in Datura's grasp, because i was still on the shitter with my pants down. This "vision" wasn't nearly as unrealistic as the other ones, but it still wasn't reality. This was a scary realization. note to any future datura users: If the carpet and curtains are still shaking violently, you're still tripping. I then once again tried to write another installment, but i still couldn't read becauase each word turned into a huge blur. I kept thinking that little specks of dirt were actually spiders because my vision was so bad and i felt so paranoid, i ended up hitting my walls alot thinking that i was trying to kill a spider.
My eyesight is still shitty compared to what i'd call "normal" for myself, but its bearable. My appetite returned about an hour ago.
Datura by itself was actually alot more enjoyable than datura with coke, acid and bud. Now i know that the acid i was taking wasn't "uber strong" as i thought it was, and that it was actually the datura that sent me into another world altogether.
Here's my final assessment:
Negative Aspects;
Poor Coordination
Unable to see clearly for at least 48 hours
Unable to think clearly (delirium)
Can be hard to come back to reality when needed
Complete dissociation at times ( i felt as though i was watching life rather than being alive at times)
Positive Aspects;
Could be compared to lucid dreaming while concious/semi-concious
thats about it
My Datura Trials are done (for now). Suprisingly i never left my house (probably because it was so fucking windy and cold yesterday), and did not destroy much. Oh, and a few of my friends called me to ask me if i was alright, even though i don't remember telling them that i was going to use datura, they said i sounded completely normal on the phone.
BEWARE THE WORST COTTONMOUTH YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE
Damn, i missed it.
If i didn't have so much responsibility i woulda joined you..
I see atleast 4 tree's each day, so it's not like i couldn't grab a bunch of flowers and brew something.
Anyway's, nice report, i wouldn't figure anyone would be so capable of writing much good up after something like that, though maybe you just handle hallucinogens better than i do. :)
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#38
 2008-02-14, 04:24
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Damn, i missed it.
If i didn't have so much responsibility i woulda joined you..
I see atleast 4 tree's each day, so it's not like i couldn't grab a bunch of flowers and brew something.
Anyway's, nice report, i wouldn't figure anyone would be so capable of writing much good up after something like that, though maybe you just handle hallucinogens better than i do. :)
i kind of did this to prove a point and to make sure i can handle more intense things.
How the FUCK did you make it out alive without a sitter?!
Whats a sitter gonna do if i'm genuinely psychotic besides call the cops or be the first victim?
@ Tadgh: Pretty good write up, and glad you safely made it through that experience. I must say, you have some set of balls to fuxk with datura like you say you do...  you said this was your second time?
I got to be honest, I've always been quite interested in the idea of a datura trip but I'm personally scared shit of actually going through with such.
I'm too worried about the fact that I'd be so delirious and while clearly imagining with certainty that I'm talking to an old time friend (or whatever the case maybe) that I in reality would have already left my house and be unconscious of my true actions...
See hallucinogens are different, no matter how heavy the dose may be I can still to some degree be certain that I've just taken a substance which has resulted in why I'm seeing what I'm seeing and feeling like I'm feeling. BUT with datura you totally lose grip of reality, which can also happen with a heavy hallucinogenic dose but the only difference with datura is that you are unaware that you've lost a grip on reality - which is quite frightening. Completely delusional...
And the fact that you can become completely unaware and unconscious of your true actions is what scares me most and is also the reason why most who fuxk with datura end up arrested or at the hospital...
.peace.
thanks. Yeah, the first time worked also but i thought i had just encountered ridiculously strong acid, and i was feeling very burnt out from smoking weed all day.
Although the stabbing the ceiling thing did seem to show some dangerous potential, i don't think it's that dangerous, especially if your a relatively peaceful individual [which i am not].
The only reason i wouldn't want to get arrested/sent to the hospital for datura would be because getting pumped with liquid charcoal sounds insanely disgusting.
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#39
 2008-02-14, 06:31
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
I'm slightly jealous, I think an experience like that would be really rewarding.
But I also think you're completely nuts for purposefully taking a powerful deleriant like datura to disprove it's reputation.
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#40
 2008-09-27, 06:09
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
this is a bump for nshanin or whatever his name is (i'm too high to really spell anything right).
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#41
 2008-09-27, 06:13
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by Tadgh
this is a bump for nshanin or whatever his name is (i'm too high to really spell anything right).
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Got it. :)
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#42
 2008-09-27, 07:09
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
Damn I remember this shit now. Really good stuff. I remember laughing my ass off when the updates petered off. :D
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#43
 2008-09-27, 07:50
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
thanks man. I eventually plan to make a book of a trip report for roughly every drug on earth in this fashion.
*AND NOW this thread sinks back into the depths of the BeLiThroChE Sea*
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#44
 2008-09-28, 01:43
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
How long did the experience last?
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#45
 2008-09-28, 04:50
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by $tinger
How long did the experience last?
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i was still having trouble reading 3 days later, but the bulk of it was only 8 or so hours, i felt out of wack for 2 weeks after though.
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#46
 2008-09-28, 07:06
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
dude what the fuck you plagiarized an erowid report
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#47
 2008-09-28, 07:08
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by absolutecaliber
dude what the fuck you plagiarized an erowid report
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...or he wrote it himself?
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#48
 2008-09-28, 07:18
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by absolutecaliber
dude what the fuck you plagiarized an erowid report
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#49
 2008-09-28, 08:10
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Tadgh 
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
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Originally Posted by absolutecaliber
dude what the fuck you plagiarized an erowid report
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no i didn't man, where?
this is my experience, did someone whos on erowid really copy my fucking report (i'm not a member of erowid and can not post trip reports there).
please link me so i can email erowid and have it taken down dude.
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#50
 2008-09-28, 08:30
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Re: Datura play-by-play.
no i didn't man, where?
this is my experience, did someone whos on erowid really copy my fucking report (i'm not a member of erowid and can not post trip reports there).
please link me so i can email erowid and have it taken down dude.
I did a search for anything containing the largest part of your report to no avail. If you had ripped it off Google would have located it. I think he's blowing smoke up your ass.
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