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Old 2008-02-07, 03:44
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Default Freedom to fascism. Dubious or real?

I want to know if The Internal revenue service of America is actually duping us Americans or if we are just a bunch of whiny bastards that don't like paying money to the government held by privately owned banks spent on frivolous things not told to us by the government.
There are so many questions I have, I can't put them into words. But can anyone give me answers?
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Old 2008-02-07, 06:50
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Everything in documentary is true.

The reason they screw all of us and get away with it is because of people just like you who don't read the constitution. The constitution clearly states that only Gold and Silver be legal tender.

Why do we not have a gold standard?

Hmm that seems illegal to me there.

You might want to check out the history of the federal reserve and how it was implemented. It totally corrupt and illegal.

Once you realize how easy it is to control every aspect of a country by manipulating how much money is in place or not, or how much prices will be it doesn't matter what the government does, the Federal Reserve takes precedent and the government has to operate how they do.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy-fD78zyvI

There is a 5 part series on how the bankers control the money supply to disrupt the nation. Watch that to see how they screw everyone.

"Give me control of a nations money supplies and I care not who makes its laws"
Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Tell everyone you know and wake them up to the Ron Paul revolution. This is why everyone wants him is because he will destroy all the illegal practices of the criminal government we have. The United States is on te brink of becoming a fascist dictatorship. Have you read the Patriot Act? Or have you read the Military Commissions Act? What about the John Warner Defense Act.

They all give the president HUGE powers. And the military commissions act allows the president to consider you a "terrorist" by a extremely loose interpretation and you can be sent to a prison camp (concentration camp sound familiar?) where you can be tortured WITHOUT a attorney, habeas corpus, or due process of law (scared yet?).

www.taxday08.com

Go there and sign up for the revolution. And prepare to do your part. There is no easy way out of this. We are lucky to finally start amassing people to address this issue.

If you want to not do that and consider the alternative let me show you to the New World Order. The world of world government socialism where the science of tyranny is law. That is what the UN is for. Why else do you think it exists? And there will be an 80% reduction of humanity if this happens. And we are very close to it happening.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

Watch that 2 hour long video when you are bored and you will know the full plan for world domination.

Also for further information read The Late Great USA by Jerome Corsi. Also read The End of America by Naomi Watts. They talk about the coming dictatorship and the coming North American Union where the USA will be no more.

Those 2 books are on the bestsellers right now. It just shows how many idiots in this country DO NOT READ. Estimated 4% of people read books.

"If the people of the United States understood their banking system their would be a revolution by morning"
-Henry Ford

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Old 2008-02-07, 22:50
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Everything in documentary is true.

The reason they screw all of us and get away with it is because of people just like you who don't read the constitution.
Oh but since you know the entire constitution by heart that means that we don't live in a totalitarian state and you have single handedly saved us all. Congratulations.

The information is good but your delivery is arrogant and it destroys the point.
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Old 2008-02-08, 03:03
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I want to know if The Internal revenue service of America is actually duping us Americans or if we are just a bunch of whiny bastards that don't like paying money to the government held by privately owned banks spent on frivolous things not told to us by the government.
There are so many questions I have, I can't put them into words. But can anyone give me answers?
Of course we're being duped! And that's why you won't get any real answers - because most of society is obliviously non-questioning and are satisfied paying in a great percentage of their paid wages to a Big Brother type of institution that will literally hunt them down and get what's theirs if they should have the grave misfortune of being selectively audited. Pity on them if everything's not in concise order or they happen to get a grumpy auditor.

That doesn't change the fact that we're still whiny bastards, for the most part - but I bet there's more we don't know than we do. And since it's concerning where our money goes, we're fools for parting with it without having real answers.

That's one of the main tactics of the IRS: confuse the taxpayer, wrapping them in riddles and red tape and constantly changing tax codes that becomes so overwhelmingly difficult to fuck with, they just throw their hands up, bend over, and get excessively taxed... for life.
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Old 2008-02-08, 03:27
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Oh but since you know the entire constitution by heart that means that we don't live in a totalitarian state and you have single handedly saved us all. Congratulations.

The information is good but your delivery is arrogant and it destroys the point.
I do know the constitution very very well and if you ask me what article and section something is I could answer you most likely on the spot. Its the only legal document that citizens should know, and that is the price of being free, responsibility.

I'm sorry you think I was arrogant (I never meant to be but you obviously are a dumbass and now deserve your comupens)

BUT YOU ARE THE FUCKING IDIOT WHO DOESNT KNOW THE CONSTITUTION DUMBFUCK AND THE FUCKING IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH THE FUCKING COUNTRY! I HOPE YOU FUCKING CHOKE SO THERE IS ONE LESS STUPID AMERICAN WHO CANT FIND THEIR OWN COUNTRY ON THE MAP SHITHEAD!

SO PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND WAKE THE FUCK UP. AMERICA IS IN DEEP SHIT BECAUSE OF STUPID MOTHERFUCKING IDIOTS LIKE YOU WHO FUCKING SHOP ALL DAY AND EAT BURGER KING AND MCDONALDS AND DONT READ BOOKS AND THINK ITS COOL AND FUNNY TO GET BAD GRADES WHILE IN SCHOOL AND BE STUPID. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION OR THE NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY OR THE LAW OF THE SEA TREATY?? BETTER FIND OUT AND TAKE ACTION YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT OR ELSE YOU WILL BECOME A SLAVE IN THE SOON TO BE ENGINEERED COMMUNIST REVOLUTION!

You think the economy is bad by "accident?" Sorry the central bank (thats call the federal reserve btw if you didnt know that too) is economic dictator and master of all it controls i.e. you and me and the government and everyone else.

I go out of my way to type you up that huge paragraph to help you understand what we are up against with links and everything and you call me arrogant and mock me?

FUCK YOU!!

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Old 2008-02-08, 03:30
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That doesn't change the fact that we're still whiny bastards, for the most part - but I bet there's more we don't know than we do. And since it's concerning where our money goes, we're fools for parting with it without having real answers.
I'll tell you where it went.

It went to fund the Bolshevik Revolution in Russisa, (read communist) it went to fund Hitler(the Union Banking Corporation was the main bank behind it and guess who the VP was of that bank? Prescott Bush, Our presidents grandfather), it went to fund the Soviet Union all after WW2 and it went to fund the Chinese Revolution.

This all documented and you can look it up to double check me.
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Old 2008-02-08, 04:01
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Unfortunately, being able to cite the constitution word-for-word isn't a standard deduction. Even having suspicions on where it actually goes doesn't make us immune from getting financially raped as our income has roughly 32% skimmed off the top.

Until they no longer have the reputation of being untouchable, and until their far-reaching fingers get the fuck out of our paychecks, there will be no relief in sight.
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Old 2008-02-08, 05:10
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Unfortunately, being able to cite the constitution word-for-word isn't a standard deduction. Even having suspicions on where it actually goes doesn't make us immune from getting financially raped as our income has roughly 32% skimmed off the top.

Until they no longer have the reputation of being untouchable, and until their far-reaching fingers get the fuck out of our paychecks, there will be no relief in sight.
Absolute and total agreement. However knowledge is power.

But I am more optimistic about our situation. Do you dare revolt angryfemme? haha

www.taxday08.com

I am not paying my taxes that day. I hope you will join me Even if you are not going to sign up at least so people get the impression that a lot of people aren't going to pay and we can have bigger numbers of people who won't.

Tell everyone. Even if Ron Paul doesn't get elected this is more important than a presidential election.
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Old 2008-02-08, 13:17
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But I am more optimistic about our situation. Do you dare revolt angryfemme? haha

www.taxday08.com
I've already revolted. Know where that got me, in 1995? A tax lien! Know how long it took me to pay off? Nearly 5 years. Know how much I spent on a tax attorney? Nearly a month's salary. So you'll have to pardon me if I seem a little less than optimistic.

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I am not paying my taxes that day. I hope you will join me
You mean you're not filing taxes that day? Because you've already paid them in, if you work a job that automatically withholds Federal, FICA & State taxes from your check. In that case, not filing your taxes by April 15th will likely recover some of those lost wages. Unless you're childless and living well above poverty level, in which case they will rape you even more, in addition to the withholdings they've gotten out of you in the past year. If you're spitting out kids and your annual wages put you barely over the poverty line, they'll give you some back, as Uncle Sam likes to reward poor people who keep breeding, even though they can barely afford to sustain their family.

If you're self-employed or a 1099 contractor and don't file your year-end returns, prepare to take it up the ass when the long arm of the auditors find you. You will then be considered a Tax Evader, and they've got special a special vacation resort package customized for people like you, located in the not-so-sunny Federal Prison System. For ease of transportation and convenience, it just so happens that they've got resort locations in all 50 states of the U.S. of A!

Iris is probably hoping for a large group of renegade tax evaders to pull together and not file their returns this year, because at roughly 11% interest and even harsher penalties that will rack up against them - she stands to get an even BIGGER chunk of their hard-earned money! Once the elections are over and the protesters have put down their signs, shuffling back to their jobs and getting back to the real business of keeping food on their table and the lights on, Iris will be waiting patiently in the shadows, rubbing her hands together with glee and preparing her evil auditing monkeys to harass the living shit out of these rebels. Meanwhile, the tax attorneys (they are not really on our side, folks) are laughing all the way to the bank, because they know that a frightened taxpayer who stands to lose their home will shell out big money for adequate representation in the form of a negotiated PAYMENT PLAN to that whore Iris, who isn't even kind enough to lift all the penalties and interest that racked up while the public was feeling large and in-charge during their protesting phase.

The only way a tax-filing dropout protest would work is if there were at least 50% of the taxpaying public who refused to file, and then just maybe Iris would run out of enough manpower to collect it all back in the short-term, which might buy us some more time until the next election when there is a snowball's chance in hell that another candidate who supports abolishing the IRS will make the ballot.

But 50% participation is a pipe dream, for most Americans realize that evading the IRS puts them in the position of possibly losing their homes, their savings accounts, and their future wages. Maybe even their jobs! Again, unless you're self-employed or a 1099 contractor, most companies frown upon those with tax liens, as the responsibility falls on the employer to see to it that 945 "backup withholding" is taken out of their paychecks to reimburse the IRS for their "loss". An employee who is collecting only a little more than half of their annual salaries tends to be bitter, unproductive employees. Even the 1099 contractors and the self-employed stand to get fucked with backup withholding, for the IRS will make it impossible for them to get a state business license, because guess what? You have to file this little Waiver for Workman's Compensation, which is a state document that is filed with Papa Fed, giving them full disclosure of your activities as a wage-collecting citizen.

The only loophole to use liberally here would be to contract yourself out for as many under-the-table jobs as possible, hopping around from job to job and earning below the $600-$1200 from those who pay you, for if you earn more, they will be required to file a 1096 form at the end of the year reporting what they paid you, so THEY don't have to pay taxes on what YOU earned.

The IRS has had nearly 100 years to hone their practices to make sure there are as few loopholes as possible for people to crawl through and seek relief from wage-raping. And they offset the probability of large, organized protests by dangling the bone of Earned Income Credit refunds and "economic stimulus returns" in front of the faces of those who don't make much to begin with, tricking them into believing that it is in their best interests to "take advantage" of the tax system.

It's a mess. A huge, garbled, bungled up mess.
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Old 2008-02-10, 02:52
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Everything in documentary is true.

Lotsa shit about how bad the Fed is, and how we should go back to a gold standard.

Sure, looking at how stagflation is a problem now, it is easy to long for the pre-Fed days. But if you examine it closer, the Fed is a net positive. In the days before the Fed, the banking industry wasn't very well regulated, and there wasn't much trust in them, resulting in Bank runs (where everyone panics and wants their money out). The gold standard stunted American growth and prevented the implementation of Keynesian economics, which brought us out of the depression. Yes, the Fed is currently hurting the American dollar by trying to fight a stagnating economy by printing more money. This is a problem, but it won't be solved by going back to the "good ole' days." If you're so worried about the value of your money, go around the Fed, and buy something that isn't prone to inflation like precious metals.
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