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Old 2008-02-06, 07:11
Atomic_Bong Atomic_Bong is offline
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Default E and allergies

What dosage do allergies reveal themselves on ecstasy? Im just asking for a buddy who wants to do E but is kinda OCD about this stuff, wants a little test run to see if hes allergic. And dont give me this 'JUST FUCKING POP IT' shit.
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Old 2008-02-06, 07:16
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While intolerances are theoretically possible, allergies are definitionally impossible - it's not a protien.

...which is too bad, really, 'cause an immunological reactivity assay is easier to run than acid/base. On the bright side, it means that he'd likely be able to start with minute doses and work his way up, since a drastically idiosyncratic side-effect would still be per-molecule based, rather than an immunological cascade.
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Old 2008-02-06, 07:19
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I wouldn't tell him to just pop it, id tell him hes a fucking retard.
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Old 2008-02-06, 16:31
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Originally Posted by JoePedo
While intolerances are theoretically possible, allergies are definitionally impossible - it's not a protien.

...which is too bad, really, 'cause an immunological reactivity assay is easier to run than acid/base. On the bright side, it means that he'd likely be able to start with minute doses and work his way up, since a drastically idiosyncratic side-effect would still be per-molecule based, rather than an immunological cascade.


Haha ok, thanks Joe.
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Old 2008-02-06, 17:11
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Like anything you buy on the black market [unless you're the chemist or you personally know the chemist] I'd suggest taking it easy. If you're doing it for the first time, I'd say that goes double. Just take half the first time; if that goes down okay, drop the other half. Repeat.

'sokay for me, though, since my guy always gets legit shit.
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Old 2008-02-06, 17:18
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I wouldn't tell him to just pop it, id tell him hes a fucking retard.



This. It's like assholes who claim to be allergic to weed. Just because you felt different does not mean you are allergic, I hate that shit.
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Old 2008-02-07, 01:17
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ok Joe my buddy says this...



Thanks for your reply. I was mistaken in calling it allergic, but I was referring to something I found on erowid. "small risk of death. Approximately 2 per 100,000 users have extreme negative reactions resulting in death. (rare)" Source: http://erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects.shtml so what I was asking was, at what dosage would this negative reaction be likely to manifest. If this is a non-recreational dose, I'd like to try somewhere around this prior to taking a full recreational dose. I don't have any history of allergies or medication intolerance, but I have been known to have some abnormal reactions to some medications and drugs (pseudo/phynlphedrine put me to sleep, my dosages are lower in dxm and lsa), so I'm a little weary of my first time with e.
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Old 2008-02-07, 01:34
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I remember when I was 14 and hadn't taken many pills I offered to give my friend who'd never done it before a half a pill and for about 5 minutes straight he was saying shit like "what if I'm that 1 in a million that dies from it". I popped the pill myself and told him to shut the fuck up and for the rest of the night he regretted not taking it.

If your friends too much of a pussy to take a 1 in a 50,000 risk then fuck him. Let him live his life in fear. If it was a 1 in a 100 chance of dying then exercising caution is understandable but worrying about such an unprobable risk is ridiculous. You have as much of a chance of bursting a blood vessel in your brain and dying while taking a shit as you do from dying from taking 1 ecstasy pill. Most of deaths reported from MDMA abuse are caused by dehydration.
 
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