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Old 2008-02-04, 16:40
KamikazePimp KamikazePimp is offline
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Default Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

So far, this has been the longest w/d it seems. I'm still sneezing twice in a row which is MY body's way of telling me it ain't over. I ain't left the house in over a week for fear of me going up to the CMD to pick up a bag or 2. I've had virtually NO appetite and LOST 15 lbs. I get nightmares of me using. Diarrhea and abdominal cramps but Immodium AD tends to help with that. Still have some muscle spasms and anxiety.

These w/ds actually started 5 days AFTER my last dose of the subs. The only thing that's helped me is TIME! I've even fought the urge to use methadone for the wds. Vitamins are a fucking godsend!! They will help restore your brain as well as your body. Weed helps with the vomiting and loss of appetite. Unfortunately for me, heroin is VERY much easier for me to get than weed so I just buy Ensure Plus shakes and choke them down 3 times a day to get adequate nutrition when I can. Baclofen and Clonidine help w/ muscle spasms and a host of wd symptoms. Trazodone helps w/ sleep, but at a price. It causes VERY lucid dreams and they can be drug dreams like in my case, which can be very........... unsettling.

Benzos can help, but be careful not to get hooked on them! I have some Klonopins coming in on Thursday and can't fucking wait for them! Sex can help too(IF you're up for it).

As for Suboxone, it did get rid of my heroin cravings I will give it that. But I feel Methadone is much better but that is just my opinion. Problem is the stigma of going to a Methadone clinic each & every day. That's the only downside to Methadone.

Time & sobriety are the BEST medicines for recovery!

--KP
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Old 2008-02-04, 17:52
sabian sabian is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

keep it up man just keep it up
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Old 2008-02-04, 17:55
eXo5 eXo5 is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

Methadone IS heroin

in any event, best of luck. you're the first person to actually use totse as an out to help keep them off the heron...
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Old 2008-02-04, 17:59
oxydose oxydose is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

you trying to stay off all pills? just opiates or what...

I imagine Bupe W/D is like Methadone in the length it stays with someone, which I'm sure by now you must know...

I been on opiates for years now on and off, and I usually try to go from opiates to benzos when I *know* I won't be able to get any worthwhile RX opis, or shit worse any at all...

Works for me usually helping me get over that I wanna crawl out of my skin feeling....
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Old 2008-02-04, 20:39
KamikazePimp KamikazePimp is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

you trying to stay off all pills? just opiates or what...

Just opioids. Benzos are ok IMO, just not all the time.

--KP
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Old 2008-02-04, 22:08
The end The end is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

Dude wtf, you been trying to "quit" heroin for the past million years, face it you aint never going to quit...
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Old 2008-02-04, 22:18
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ATL, ho!
Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

STAY OUT OF FUCKING CAMDEN.

you will get arrested or worse!!

you can do it Kpimp.

fuck the haters! stay away from xylene ;)
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Old 2008-02-04, 22:24
XstanX XstanX is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by The end
Dude wtf, you been trying to "quit" heroin for the past million years, face it you aint never going to quit...


Your a pessimistic ass wipe.
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Old 2008-02-04, 22:51
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

good job man, keep it up and don't give in!!
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Old 2008-02-04, 23:12
The end The end is offline
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Default Re: Suboxone W/Ds - Week 2

Your a pessimistic ass wipe.

Why thank you.
 
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