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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-02-03, 22:18
shadow3221 shadow3221 is offline
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Default Just got 5 E pills.

Me and a friend are planning on take 2 and a half each. I've done it before and know what its like but I was wondering if theres a way to make the effect hit you harder? Does parachuting it make it hit you harder or just faster?
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Old 2008-02-03, 22:56
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When I have a lot of E I generally like to pop some and snort some throughout the night. In your case I'd like pop one maybe then snort one, then snort the other half later maybe? I don't know if re-dosing MDMA makes a difference though.
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Old 2008-02-03, 23:00
thatkidej thatkidej is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

If you chew them up effects will come on faster and be more intense, but it won't last as long. Railing them will make it come on MUCH faster, MUCH more intense, and MUCH shorter.

I say you swallow one, chew one, and rail the half pill.
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Old 2008-02-03, 23:02
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If you chew them up effects will come on faster and be more intense, but it won't last as long. Railing them will make it come on MUCH faster, MUCH more intense, and MUCH shorter.

I say you swallow one, chew one, and rail the half pill.


Ew, why would you chew it when you can just parachute it?
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Old 2008-02-03, 23:11
thatkidej thatkidej is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

Ew, why would you chew it when you can just parachute it?

Because parachuting is too much work?

It's not THAT hard to chew up a pill. It's five seconds of a disgusting taste for a few hours of an awesome experience..
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Old 2008-02-03, 23:39
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

Take them intranasally, don't even think about popping them.
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Old 2008-02-03, 23:43
thatkidej thatkidej is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

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Take them intranasally, don't even think about popping them.


Two and a half pills is a shitload to rail.. Especially since this is someone who has to ask what's most effective. I'm guessing they haven't railed pills before.

Shit, two and a half pills was a lot to rail back in the days where railing was my favorite..
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Old 2008-02-03, 23:47
doornob_lightbulb doornob_lightbulb is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

Just pop them...
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Old 2008-02-04, 00:08
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

I'd just pop the one and a half and then rail the other pill while you're waiting for the 1 1/2 to kick in.
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Old 2008-02-04, 02:22
mahatmaganja420 mahatmaganja420 is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

No way, snorting E is a complete waste... People who snort pills only serve to give drugs and drug users a bad name. Seriously, if you can't wait for a half an hour to get effects, then you need to reevaluate a lot of stuff in your life. If you want it to hit you faster and much MUCH stronger... plug it. Completely crush the pill into powder, mix it thoroughly in water, and use an oral syringe to inject it a few inches up. There are so many blood vessels and shit there it absorbs much faster and bypasses the first pass liver filtering. I've heard for some stimulants it can increase the effects up to 6 times. So, I'd go with much less then what you'd normally take. I know even for drugs like Oxycodone which has the same bioavailability rectal as orally, it's still stronger to plug. That doesn't make sense to some, but the peak plasma levels are different, etc. It doesn't last as long usually, a couple hours shorter at most, but with how much less you'll need to get high... it's well worth it.
If you don't want to plug it, then just crush the pill into powder and parachute it or just swallow it with a strong flavored liquid like coca-cola (caffeine free of course since mixing stimulants is a bad idea and usually rolls have multiple chemicals in them anyway...) Snorting doesn't feel anywhere near the same, you'll never get that wonderful good euphoric empathy feeling the same way as if you ate it. Besides, it's better to eat them and wait, and you don't feel anything... and then at about a half an hour, ZANG, and suddenly it hits you and you're rolling nicely. That's the way to go. Who wants to destroy their nose, possibly their sense of smell, get an awful tasting drip, possibly have a clogged nose, and maybe even get less out of their pill? I've always felt less potent effects from insufflated MDMA then oral consumed however there are unfortunately no studies I've found with verified bioavailabilities of one or the other.
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Old 2008-02-04, 02:32
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
No way, snorting E is a complete waste... People who snort pills only serve to give drugs and drug users a bad name. Seriously, if you can't wait for a half an hour to get effects, then you need to reevaluate a lot of stuff in your life. If you want it to hit you faster and much MUCH stronger... plug it. Completely crush the pill into powder, mix it thoroughly in water, and use an oral syringe to inject it a few inches up. There are so many blood vessels and shit there it absorbs much faster and bypasses the first pass liver filtering. I've heard for some stimulants it can increase the effects up to 6 times. So, I'd go with much less then what you'd normally take. I know even for drugs like Oxycodone which has the same bioavailability rectal as orally, it's still stronger to plug. That doesn't make sense to some, but the peak plasma levels are different, etc. It doesn't last as long usually, a couple hours shorter at most, but with how much less you'll need to get high... it's well worth it.
If you don't want to plug it, then just crush the pill into powder and parachute it or just swallow it with a strong flavored liquid like coca-cola (caffeine free of course since mixing stimulants is a bad idea and usually rolls have multiple chemicals in them anyway...) Snorting doesn't feel anywhere near the same, you'll never get that wonderful good euphoric empathy feeling the same way as if you ate it. Besides, it's better to eat them and wait, and you don't feel anything... and then at about a half an hour, ZANG, and suddenly it hits you and you're rolling nicely. That's the way to go. Who wants to destroy their nose, possibly their sense of smell, get an awful tasting drip, possibly have a clogged nose, and maybe even get less out of their pill? I've always felt less potent effects from insufflated MDMA then oral consumed however there are unfortunately no studies I've found with verified bioavailabilities of one or the other.


wow, u just wrote a fucking block about plugging... do you like musicals??

And you've obviously never snorted pure MDMA. The stuff that sucks is the binders. Also 2c's suck ass insufflated.
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Old 2008-02-04, 05:02
rik2424 rik2424 is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

you need to re evaluate your life if your loading syringes with e and injecting it into your asshole
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Old 2008-02-04, 05:49
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you need to re evaluate your life if your loading syringes with e and injecting it into your asshole


Okay, I'd rather just chew the pill then do this. What a fag.
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Old 2008-02-04, 19:47
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

Plugging is much much more intense. I've done it.
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Old 2008-02-05, 00:01
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

Ask panthrax, it actually works really well and it isn't gay if you spend all night fucking girls in the ass.
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Old 2008-02-05, 06:57
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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Default Re: Just got 5 E pills.

What's the bioavailability of an enema?
 
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