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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-02-03, 17:43
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Internet-Weed-Dude 
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MS Contin
I've got some 15 mg MS Contin. Timed release morphine tablets. I've never really been able to catch much off these even after taking a few. I've read that they're meant to last 12 hours with the coating on.. so how would it be spread out. would it give you like 5 mg every 4 hours or something around there? if i were to insufflate one of them and get all 15 mg at once how many hours would that last? i just want to know a bit about it before i decide how many to do.
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#2
 2008-02-03, 17:47
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Re: MS Contin
The troll now asks for help.
Take 4 of them to the dome, don't pop them.
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#3
 2008-02-03, 17:50
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Re: MS Contin
put em up your ass
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#4
 2008-02-03, 19:28
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Re: MS Contin
Plug them. Seriously. I'd suggest 60mgs to start with. It hit me in about 5 mins and I was nodding the fuck out.
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#5
 2008-02-03, 23:48
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Re: MS Contin
I say just pop them. The bioavailability is about the same for oral and rectal.
Take at least four, but don't go overboard. Opiate sickness sucks. Unless you're nodding, then you're too happy to care ha :)
BTW: MSContin used to be my DOC, except I had the 30s.
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#6
 2008-02-04, 02:31
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Re: MS Contin
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! God, I'm so sick of idiots. First of all, DON'T PLUG 60 MG unless you want to fucking OD. The rectal and oral bioavailability are NOT the same, the rectal is notably higher. If you want to remove what little coating there may be, and crush them up, and eat them... Then 45 mg should be good, MAYBE 60 mg. You'll be VERY fucking high for I'd say at least 6 hours. But if you don't feel anything for the first hour or so, don't be surprised and don't take more. I almost died one night with morphine, due to advice from fucking idiots like the people on this site, and other sites that will remain nameless... Snorting them is a waste as well. They are time release the whole way through, so they will most likely gel... most pills who are time release the whole way through do gel up, terribly.
Also, you don't want to nod, that's another thing idiots go for. Yeah, I want to be a MINISCULE amount of dose away from overdose, and look like an idiot to everyone, not be able to function in any way, and not really remember what's going on. Wow, that sounds like insane fun, especially since it takes a much larger dose to achieve, dose you could have split probably in half and gotten 2 good highs from. People are smart. Honestly, the only ways to take morphine really are IV and plugged. That's it. If you don't want to do it one of those ways, then sell them for a better drug.
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#7
 2008-02-04, 05:52
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Re: MS Contin
^your retarded your not nearly to an od to get nodding from morphine if you have little tolerance, my first time taking morphine was a 100mg crushed up and ate it and it made me really sick but I didn't od and I'm pretty skinny and I know other people who do the same thing and are fine. It is probably wiser to start off with 50mg and take more if you feel the need to and yea rectal bioavailability is a lot higher so you'd need less.
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#8
 2008-02-04, 06:10
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Re: MS Contin
I'm saying when you're nodding, you're one step away from an OD; which is the truth. Don't like the truth? Too bad I guess... By the by, the reason you go sick is because you took too much. That's what your body does when it consumes too much of a substance, it thinks of it as poison and makes you throw up to get it out of you. 100 mg with no tolerance is a REDICULOUSLY high dose, and to eat that much is not only idiotic but wasteful. Think about it like this... 20 mg IV morphine is a fatal overdose, at 100% bioavailability let's just say. Ok, now let's just saw that oral bioavailability is ~30%. So, assuming all that, then it'd be safe to assume that slightly over 3x 20mg would be a fatal oral dose. However, since they mostly only make time release morphine, it didn't all hit you at once. And you're damn lucky that it was time release, if it wasn't you may not be here to argue with me about your ignorance.
At least you're willing to agree on the rectal bioavailability, I get tired of arguing about that one... Yes, I'd say to start with 40 - 50mg oral at best, and see how it goes. The best rule of thumb for dosing with drugs is, "It's easy to eat more if it's not enough, its a lot harder to lower the dose you've already consumed." But, as I said before, don't go taking more if you don't feel enough in an hour or so. The time release can make it hard to feel anything for several hours unfortunately...
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#9
 2008-02-04, 06:15
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Re: MS Contin
Ghandi is an opiate pussy.
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#10
 2008-02-04, 06:24
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Re: MS Contin
First of all, if you're trying to refer to me, there is no Ghandi anywhere in my handle. Second of all, I'm probably one of the most experienced opiate/opioid users on this forum. I've done pretty much every opiate/opioid... To list a few, codeine, Dihydrocodeine, morphine, Oxycodone, Oxymorphone, Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Fentanyl, heroin, Nicomorphine, Opium (Yes, I know it's not a specific chemical but actually helps to add more then 20 to my list), Propoxyphene, Dextropropoxyphene, Methadone, Loperamide, Buprenorphine, etc etc. I fucking have a vial of liquid nalaxone in my closet right now, just in case. I personally feel that I've come close to conquering my opiate/opioid use. I, at one time, was using ~3 OC 80s a day just to feel normal.
Just because I practice ignorance removal and harm reduction doesn't mean I'm an "opiate pussy" or don't know what I'm talking about. I'm simply trying to prevent people from hurting themselves. If you have a problem with the "You can always take more later, but it's hard to take less then what you've already consumed" theory, please let me know. It seems like a pretty solid theory to me. Sure, sometimes it's best to take the whole dose at once so you get a better more euphoric/intense high... But, I think it's best to be safe instead of trying to get the best possible high if you don't know what you're doing.
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#11
 2008-02-04, 06:28
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Re: MS Contin
dude, MAHATMA GHANDI.
how the fuck did you not get the reference that you yourself made?
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#12
 2008-02-04, 06:30
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Re: MS Contin
why did you even put Loperamide in that list? i know its technically an opiate but good luck with any of it getting across the blood brain barrier...
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#13
 2008-02-04, 06:38
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Re: MS Contin
Yeah, I got the reference... I'm the one who made the account. But, referring to me as Ghandi just makes you look like an idiot since it's nowhere in my name. Also, I love how you have nothing more to say (after I shot your statement down) besides, "You didn't get the reference, haha". Way to go... You win at life...
jamaica0535, I put it on the list because it is as much of an opioid as Propoxyphene. And, don't try to insult me when you don't know what you're talking about, it makes you look like an ass. It's not all necessarily getting it across the BBB that's the difficult part, it's the keeping it there. And to be honest, it's not that hard if you know what you're doing. PLUS, for a small percentage of people, Loperamide can be abused without the mixture of another substance. I think the study showed something like 10% found it euphoric, which I believe was the percentage of the normal world's population who found other opiate/opioids euphoric. So... I don't see it as being any different than anything else. Not to mention it has TERMENDOUS potential as a withdrawal helper, so...
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#14
 2008-02-04, 06:41
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Re: MS Contin
Really, I only browsed that post, and the one above this one, and I didn't really give much of a shit what you had to say, so I didn't really get what your message was. you know like in charlie brown, how the adults talk? waa wa waaa waa wa wa waa kind of dull monotone voice?
That's how I picture you talking. So I kind of tune it out. Forgive me. Peace ghandi.
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#15
 2008-02-04, 06:46
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Re: MS Contin
You’re forgiven. That message more than any of the previous (which already supported my comments pretty well) shows how much of a tool you are. Not to mention that you basically admitted you were wrong, I was right, and that you had no actual point other than trying to start an e-fight... Wow, way to go Mr.E-Thug. Did it make you feel better? Did it make your e-penis grow a few inches? It must have, otherwise there wouldn't have been a point to doing it right? I mean, obviously of course besides making yourself look like a bigger douche bag; which I'm sure wasn't an easy task to accomplish, but somehow you've managed to do it.
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#16
 2008-02-04, 06:47
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Re: MS Contin
Not wrong or right, caring and not caring.
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#17
 2008-02-04, 06:50
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Re: MS Contin
No... Wrong and right
Namely you being wrong and me being right. If it was about caring and not caring, you never would have made a single post. So... Seeing as you have now made at least 4 or 5 posts on this thread, well to say you didn't care about it would be the most blatantly obvious lie ever. Get over yourself cock ass...
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#18
 2008-02-04, 06:51
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Re: MS Contin
blah blah blah blah
You could out-bitch a nigger woman.
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#19
 2008-02-04, 06:54
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Re: MS Contin
Not bitching, simply pointing out your stupidity. I realize you don't want to admit to it, because it would be admitting your failure. If we know anything about "the great stupid noob" is that's he's never wrong... *rolls eyes* Fucking children, I swear god... You're a moderator right? That's so sad and pathetic, and telling about this site. No wonder this site desperately needs people like me to help remove ignorance and share the methods of harm reduction...
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#20
 2008-02-04, 07:06
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Re: MS Contin
totse needs you? and who's the self indulgent egotistical prick? all this because I called you a pussy. Over defensive much? I think you proved my original point.
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#21
 2008-02-04, 07:13
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Re: MS Contin
this threads jokes. the fact that the OP could have searched an answer by simply typing in "ms contin". people then ripped him and told him to plug a pukingly large amount of dope. ganja took it seriously and is now writing a novel of insults. sounds like an 8-beer-in-ya-system rant.
stupid noob is just browsing EVERY-SINGLE-THREAD like he always does. doesn't miss a single fucking thread. and if he misses a day without checking the forum. he backtracks and reads through 4 pages of totse threads to catch back up. i've never seen a thread over 2 pages without your "input" in it... if you call it that. quality over quantity man. remember that. its ill.
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#22
 2008-02-04, 07:18
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: MS Contin
Yup, Totse NEEDS me. I don't think that's egotistical at all. I think it's sad and pathetic as I've already stated. You can think of me anyway you wish, but I doubt many people on here think of me that way. I also think, that the majority of Totse viewers/posters know you're one of the biggest tools on the forum, who contributes next to nothing and basically only posts to TRY to insult someone (though usually you fail miserably even at that...)
No, this isn't being over defensive. I'd agree that if this were all over you calling me a pussy that it would be being over defensive. However, I don't believe you're stupid enough to TRULY think this is all over calling me a "opiate pussy". In fact, I think only a message or two was about that. The rest were commenting on your obvious retardation, lack of points, ridiculous "insults", inability to shut the fuck up, and just flat out douche bagginess.
EDIT: By the way, how in any of your inane babble did you manage to accomplish your "original point" in proving I'm an opiate pussy?
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#23
 2008-02-04, 07:39
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Re: MS Contin
Like I said, MS Contin 30s used to be my drug of choice. I took six of them in one night ONE time, and got sick. I didn't almost die, I was nodding my ass off but I was fine the next day.
Rectal and oral bioavailabilities are not a great deal off. They're not far enough apart to have one be a fine dose and the other be lethal. That's just ridiculous.
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#24
 2008-02-04, 19:11
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Re: MS Contin
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Yup, Totse NEEDS me. I don't think that's egotistical at all. I think it's sad and pathetic as I've already stated. You can think of me anyway you wish, but I doubt many people on here think of me that way. I also think, that the majority of Totse viewers/posters know you're one of the biggest tools on the forum, who contributes next to nothing and basically only posts to TRY to insult someone (though usually you fail miserably even at that...)
No, this isn't being over defensive. I'd agree that if this were all over you calling me a pussy that it would be being over defensive. However, I don't believe you're stupid enough to TRULY think this is all over calling me a "opiate pussy". In fact, I think only a message or two was about that. The rest were commenting on your obvious retardation, lack of points, ridiculous "insults", inability to shut the fuck up, and just flat out douche bagginess.
EDIT: By the way, how in any of your inane babble did you manage to accomplish your "original point" in proving I'm an opiate pussy?
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You got trolled moron.
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#25
 2008-02-04, 20:51
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Re: MS Contin
lol look how much mahatmaganjafag typed out. I didn't read 99% of this, my only comment is that totse doesn't NEED you at all. If you got hit by a truck I doubt anyone would even notice.
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! God, I'm so sick of idiots. First of all, DON'T PLUG 60 MG unless you want to fucking OD. The rectal and oral bioavailability are NOT the same, the rectal is notably higher. If you want to remove what little coating there may be, and crush them up, and eat them... Then 45 mg should be good, MAYBE 60 mg. You'll be VERY fucking high for I'd say at least 6 hours. But if you don't feel anything for the first hour or so, don't be surprised and don't take more. I almost died one night with morphine, due to advice from fucking idiots like the people on this site, and other sites that will remain nameless... Snorting them is a waste as well. They are time release the whole way through, so they will most likely gel... most pills who are time release the whole way through do gel up, terribly.
Also, you don't want to nod, that's another thing idiots go for. Yeah, I want to be a MINISCULE amount of dose away from overdose, and look like an idiot to everyone, not be able to function in any way, and not really remember what's going on. Wow, that sounds like insane fun, especially since it takes a much larger dose to achieve, dose you could have split probably in half and gotten 2 good highs from. People are smart. Honestly, the only ways to take morphine really are IV and plugged. That's it. If you don't want to do it one of those ways, then sell them for a better drug.
I'm saying when you're nodding, you're one step away from an OD; which is the truth. Don't like the truth? Too bad I guess... By the by, the reason you go sick is because you took too much. That's what your body does when it consumes too much of a substance, it thinks of it as poison and makes you throw up to get it out of you. 100 mg with no tolerance is a REDICULOUSLY high dose, and to eat that much is not only idiotic but wasteful. Think about it like this... 20 mg IV morphine is a fatal overdose, at 100% bioavailability let's just say. Ok, now let's just saw that oral bioavailability is ~30%. So, assuming all that, then it'd be safe to assume that slightly over 3x 20mg would be a fatal oral dose. However, since they mostly only make time release morphine, it didn't all hit you at once. And you're damn lucky that it was time release, if it wasn't you may not be here to argue with me about your ignorance.
At least you're willing to agree on the rectal bioavailability, I get tired of arguing about that one... Yes, I'd say to start with 40 - 50mg oral at best, and see how it goes. The best rule of thumb for dosing with drugs is, "It's easy to eat more if it's not enough, its a lot harder to lower the dose you've already consumed." But, as I said before, don't go taking more if you don't feel enough in an hour or so. The time release can make it hard to feel anything for several hours unfortunately...
First of all, if you're trying to refer to me, there is no Ghandi anywhere in my handle. Second of all, I'm probably one of the most experienced opiate/opioid users on this forum. I've done pretty much every opiate/opioid... To list a few, codeine, Dihydrocodeine, morphine, Oxycodone, Oxymorphone, Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Fentanyl, heroin, Nicomorphine, Opium (Yes, I know it's not a specific chemical but actually helps to add more then 20 to my list), Propoxyphene, Dextropropoxyphene, Methadone, Loperamide, Buprenorphine, etc etc. I fucking have a vial of liquid nalaxone in my closet right now, just in case. I personally feel that I've come close to conquering my opiate/opioid use. I, at one time, was using ~3 OC 80s a day just to feel normal.
Just because I practice ignorance removal and harm reduction doesn't mean I'm an "opiate pussy" or don't know what I'm talking about. I'm simply trying to prevent people from hurting themselves. If you have a problem with the "You can always take more later, but it's hard to take less then what you've already consumed" theory, please let me know. It seems like a pretty solid theory to me. Sure, sometimes it's best to take the whole dose at once so you get a better more euphoric/intense high... But, I think it's best to be safe instead of trying to get the best possible high if you don't know what you're doing.
Yeah, I got the reference... I'm the one who made the account. But, referring to me as Ghandi just makes you look like an idiot since it's nowhere in my name. Also, I love how you have nothing more to say (after I shot your statement down) besides, "You didn't get the reference, haha". Way to go... You win at life...
jamaica0535, I put it on the list because it is as much of an opioid as Propoxyphene. And, don't try to insult me when you don't know what you're talking about, it makes you look like an ass. It's not all necessarily getting it across the BBB that's the difficult part, it's the keeping it there. And to be honest, it's not that hard if you know what you're doing. PLUS, for a small percentage of people, Loperamide can be abused without the mixture of another substance. I think the study showed something like 10% found it euphoric, which I believe was the percentage of the normal world's population who found other opiate/opioids euphoric. So... I don't see it as being any different than anything else. Not to mention it has TERMENDOUS potential as a withdrawal helper, so...
Youre forgiven. That message more than any of the previous (which already supported my comments pretty well) shows how much of a tool you are. Not to mention that you basically admitted you were wrong, I was right, and that you had no actual point other than trying to start an e-fight... Wow, way to go Mr.E-Thug. Did it make you feel better? Did it make your e-penis grow a few inches? It must have, otherwise there wouldn't have been a point to doing it right? I mean, obviously of course besides making yourself look like a bigger douche bag; which I'm sure wasn't an easy task to accomplish, but somehow you've managed to do it.
No... Wrong and right
Namely you being wrong and me being right. If it was about caring and not caring, you never would have made a single post. So... Seeing as you have now made at least 4 or 5 posts on this thread, well to say you didn't care about it would be the most blatantly obvious lie ever. Get over yourself cock ass...
Not bitching, simply pointing out your stupidity. I realize you don't want to admit to it, because it would be admitting your failure. If we know anything about "the great stupid noob" is that's he's never wrong... *rolls eyes* Fucking children, I swear god... You're a moderator right? That's so sad and pathetic, and telling about this site. No wonder this site desperately needs people like me to help remove ignorance and share the methods of harm reduction...
Yup, Totse NEEDS me. I don't think that's egotistical at all. I think it's sad and pathetic as I've already stated. You can think of me anyway you wish, but I doubt many people on here think of me that way. I also think, that the majority of Totse viewers/posters know you're one of the biggest tools on the forum, who contributes next to nothing and basically only posts to TRY to insult someone (though usually you fail miserably even at that...)
No, this isn't being over defensive. I'd agree that if this were all over you calling me a pussy that it would be being over defensive. However, I don't believe you're stupid enough to TRULY think this is all over calling me a "opiate pussy". In fact, I think only a message or two was about that. The rest were commenting on your obvious retardation, lack of points, ridiculous "insults", inability to shut the fuck up, and just flat out douche bagginess.
EDIT: By the way, how in any of your inane babble did you manage to accomplish your "original point" in proving I'm an opiate pussy?
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#26
 2008-02-04, 21:26
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Re: MS Contin
All that over me calling him an opiate pussy.
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#27
 2008-02-04, 21:48
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Re: MS Contin
Yup, Totse NEEDS me.
How can totse needs you? No one even reads what you say because it is just a massive ugly block of text. Egotistical prick.
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#28
 2008-02-04, 21:52
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Re: MS Contin
lol pwn
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#29
 2008-02-04, 21:55
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Re: MS Contin
How can totse needs you? No one even reads what you say because it is just a massive ugly block of text. Egotistical prick.
I actually got bored and tried to read some of his shit. Its shit. He is saying that 100mgs of morphine in a near fatal dose. I weigh like 140 and I can handle 120mgs of morphine with no tolerance. So ya... SN's right, hes an opiate pussy.
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#30
 2008-02-04, 22:08
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Re: MS Contin
I actually got bored and tried to read some of his shit. Its shit. He is saying that 100mgs of morphine in a near fatal dose. I weigh like 140 and I can handle 120mgs of morphine with no tolerance. So ya... SN's right, hes an opiate pussy.
Either that or he's never really done drugs and is going from erowid experiences vault. LOL.
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#31
 2008-02-06, 04:30
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Re: MS Contin
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Really, I only browsed that post, and the one above this one, and I didn't really give much of a shit what you had to say, so I didn't really get what your message was. you know like in charlie brown, how the adults talk? waa wa waaa waa wa wa waa kind of dull monotone voice?
That's how I picture you talking. So I kind of tune it out. Forgive me. Peace ghandi.
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dude for all the intelligent things Ive heard you say, theyve been equaled by all the either totally misinformed (bullshitting people with seemingly intelligent views on a given subject) or just plain asinine insults because you have no other thread to bullshit or any other people to try and impress with your pseudo knowledge.... now keep in mind I have seen you make several very knowledgeable posts.. so i know youre not a complete idiot... just keep in mind that everyone doesnt give a fuck about what you think.. and if you dont really have any REAL information to add to a thread.. fuck off.. and you know what ? i know you dont give a flying fuck about what I say.. this is after all the internet.... so for what its worth..
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#32
 2008-02-06, 05:04
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Re: MS Contin
2008-02-03, 17:43
Remove user from ignore list
Internet-Weed-Dude
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internet weed dude, shoot all of them that you have. it'll take at least what you have to get a buzz, so shoot all of them in one shot for a decent rush. 400-500mg in a lick should get you where you should be.
and fuck you mahatma dude. you piss me off. 60mg iv won't even kill an opiate noob. you're just a PUSSY and i'm reading nothing more.
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#33
 2008-02-06, 05:23
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Re: MS Contin
*Sigh*...As much as I fucking, hate you, I do feel obligated to at least try and help your situation a bit.
I've never done MS Contin, but I have done other time release opiates, and they've all been the same for me in terms of the amount of time that you're high when you insuffilate...It's usually a SOLID 1.5-2 hours of being high, and then it depletes after that, fairly quickly actually (takes another hour or so to come down).
The peculiar thing for me with opiates (and I'm not the only one I know who gets this) is that if I'm nodding, I still kinda feel remnants of the goodness for pretty much the rest of the day AFTER I come down.
And, as much as I FUCKING hate you, be careful. I may hate you, but death from drugs is just a generally terrible/terrifying thing that I wouldn't wish on anybody.
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#34
 2008-02-06, 05:30
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Re: MS Contin
dude for all the intelligent things Ive heard you say, theyve been equaled by all the either totally misinformed (bullshitting people with seemingly intelligent views on a given subject) or just plain asinine insults because you have no other thread to bullshit or any other people to try and impress with your pseudo knowledge.... now keep in mind I have seen you make several very knowledgeable posts.. so i know youre not a complete idiot... just keep in mind that everyone doesnt give a fuck about what you think.. and if you dont really have any REAL information to add to a thread.. fuck off.. and you know what ? i know you dont give a flying fuck about what I say.. this is after all the internet.... so for what its worth..
Show me one misinformed post. ONE. And this whole thing was at first just razzing ghandi a bit, but he had to go and be a faggot about it, so I trolled the shit out of his dumbass. pwn
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#35
 2008-02-06, 05:47
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Re: MS Contin
Show me one misinformed post. ONE. And this whole thing was at first just razzing ghandi a bit, but he had to go and be a faggot about it, so I trolled the shit out of his dumbass. pwn
What's REALLY funny is that all he (Chronic Kid) did was bitch you out, and not contribute anything himself.
Way to go, hypocrite.
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#36
 2008-02-06, 14:10
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Re: MS Contin
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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
Yup, Totse NEEDS me. I don't think that's egotistical at all. I think it's sad and pathetic as I've already stated. You can think of me anyway you wish, but I doubt many people on here think of me that way. I also think, that the majority of Totse viewers/posters know you're one of the biggest tools on the forum, who contributes next to nothing and basically only posts to TRY to insult someone (though usually you fail miserably even at that...)
No, this isn't being over defensive. I'd agree that if this were all over you calling me a pussy that it would be being over defensive. However, I don't believe you're stupid enough to TRULY think this is all over calling me a "opiate pussy". In fact, I think only a message or two was about that. The rest were commenting on your obvious retardation, lack of points, ridiculous "insults", inability to shut the fuck up, and just flat out douche bagginess.
EDIT: By the way, how in any of your inane babble did you manage to accomplish your "original point" in proving I'm an opiate pussy?
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I thought we got rid of this faggot.
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#37
 2008-02-06, 23:51
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adiras 
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I thought we got rid of this faggot.
That would be a shame considering he is one of the few posters who respond with anything besides "Kill yourself" and "Drink drano".
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#38
 2008-02-07, 00:23
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Thank you adiras, it's good to know SOMEONE appreciates the time and effort I put into ignorance removal and harm reduction.
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#39
 2008-02-07, 04:35
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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
Thank you adiras, it's good to know SOMEONE appreciates the time and effort I put into ignorance removal and harm reduction.
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I appreciate it as well. It is ALWAYS a good thing to start small and work your way up. If you can't get more right away, or afford more for later, it doesn't matter - it's always a good rule of thumb to stay by to stay safe. You should NEVER potentially substitute your own life for wanting more drugs.
However, I would like to ask one thing of you, although I'm sure you probably won't acknowledge my request at all.
Could you PLEASE paragraph? Often times I can barely read half of what you write due to a mass jumble of words on the screen. Not all of us have 20/20 vision 
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#40
 2008-02-07, 13:43
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That would be a shame considering he is one of the few posters who respond with anything besides "Kill yourself" and "Drink drano".
Nobody ever says that and you are just as much of a faggot for making that claim.
Thank you adiras, it's good to know SOMEONE appreciates the time and effort I put into ignorance removal and harm reduction.
For the love of god please shut the fuck up with that ignorance removal and harm reduction bullshit. I'm going to have to dig out the pwnage for this.
I think T-zone sums up mahatmaganja pretty well...
No dood, I agree with you too. Actually, here's what's going on.
"Mahatmaganja420" is probably about 15 or 16 years old. He lives with his parents, has done some drugs, and is obviously more intelligent than his friends. That's not hard to do when you're in high school, because everyone is retarded. I remember 10th grade. I was a fucking genius because I hadn't been into the real world and I didn't realize that in competitive fields, EVERYONE is that smart, so I wouldn't automatically have an advantage without trying. THAT really did not prepare me so well for the real world AT ALL.
But anyway, back on topic, since this kid is sooo smart and knows more about drugs than anyone else he took freshman health with, that automatically gives him license to spread his wisdom all over the Interwebs, because he is obviously a lot smarter than most of the noobs on here. (I am sorry for using two circumstantial clauses in the same sentence; it won't happen again.) The only problem is that all he's ever done is smoke weed, drink Robitussin, a few Vicodin here and Xanax there... you know, the stuff we all did, put the HIGH back in high school. So he just reads a lot about drugs (he is good at reading shit and remembering it, which is how he got this far without anyone realizing that his "intelligence" is not any great critical reasoning skill but rather the ability to recall facts, which a monkey could do) and what other people have done with them, makes those experiences his own, and builds an elaborate alter-ego that has done every drug there is and knows everything there is to know about how they all work. His knowledge is legit because it is an eclectic blend of "street smarts" and book smarts, and his asshole demeanor is to be expected, because HE has done every single drug there is and is smarter than all of us. We should be thanking the Drug God for sending a prophet like this to us.
This kid has never been addicted to anything, has BARELY had any drug experiences, has never had blow or smack, blah blah blah... nobody SERIOUSLY believes that such an arrogant little bitch could ever cut it in the head world! You and I BOTH know that a punk-ass snot like that would get a bullet in his fucking heart after two minutes of this God complex bullshit if he ever REALLY tried to score some dope. You and I both know that substance abuse problems are not some sort of medal that you get to wear and show off to all your friends.
Nobody who has ever REALLY struggled with an addiction would talk about it the way this kid does... and COME ON, he has 420 in his name! Obviously, he JUST WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK HE'S COOL! Let's just give him this!
YOU GO, little boy! You are the coolest kid in your whole damn school! Are you fucking proud of the way you are? Proud that you can piss off so many people on an anonymous discussion forum? Proud that you can make a few dope-stricken douchebags think you've been through a life of drug abuse and gang wars? Proud that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE honestly believes you are hardcore, even if you ARE the biggest asshole they've ever met? You are just too cool. Keep this up, man, maybe you can bullshit your way into middle management one day; it worked for just about everyone else on that payroll.
In other words, quit picking on him... he's just a kid. Let him pretend that he is the best, for Christ's sakes; he's only got a few more years of this free ride before he has to own up to himself and start being more than a tool. I didn't figure that out until my junior year, when I started getting C's because I was stoned all the time - naturally, I was stoned because I was too damn smart for everyone else, so I didn't need to pay attention or do homework or any of that bullshit. All I had to do was impress enough people with my natural skills in persuasive language that my ego would get stroked a little bit every day, and when I went home I wouldn't feel bad for slacking off, because I'd know in my heart that I am a fucking genius and everyone else will be at my feet one day, BEGGING me to save them from whatever retarded future they have built for themselves.
Now look where that got me! Doing a little blow and writing several paragraphs about some retarded kid who is about to make the same shitty choices I did and isn't going to listen to anything anyone has to say about it, because he's too cool.
Ha ha, look, I am an old man who has taken too much dope. My brain is so fucking addled that I can't even write coherently any more. Everything jumps around with no regards to a thesis or topic sentences. Unity and coherence, what is that bullshit? I don't even know anymore. I don't care enough to apply the skills that I do have because I'm an apathetic teenage shithead! And now I'm too feeble-brained to use them because I am old and riddled with the lasting scars of chemical abuse.
I have wasted enough time on this topic. You know that you are not alone now.
(Sorry for taking such a cynical, bitter-ass bent. But you have to realize that this hits very close to home, to the kind of bullshit that I might have done when I was a retarded kid. I guess you could say that even though I think this dude is a Class A Faggot, I really am trying to help him out and mask that to my consciousness by putting on this angry face.)
I agree with you too, but I'm just not going to call this kid on his bullshit anymore, because he's just going to argue until he feels good, and in the event that he can't win, he'll move on to an easier target without even finishing the argument.
I know the type.
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#41
 2008-02-07, 14:26
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That would be a shame considering he is one of the few posters who respond with anything besides "Kill yourself" and "Drink drano".kill urself
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#42
 2008-02-08, 08:45
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kill urself
Exactly.
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#43
 2008-02-08, 15:40
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kill urself
haha stupid noob isnt good at speliung.
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#44
 2008-02-08, 20:36
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I think T-zone sums up mahatmaganja pretty well...
Pwnd.
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#45
 2008-02-09, 16:40
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did the op ever post his weight or tolerance? i mean, say what you want about mahatma's attitude, he was trying to be helpful. and really, even if you did make a joke about the amount to ingest because the OP could have searched for it, how was he supposed to know you were joking?
jokes are jokes, but when it's about drugs/dosing, i try to be serious.
but hell, i know this board just loves to flame people.
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#46
 2008-03-16, 22:47
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Originally Posted by derivative
did the op ever post his weight or tolerance? i mean, say what you want about mahatma's attitude, he was trying to be helpful. and really, even if you did make a joke about the amount to ingest because the OP could have searched for it, how was he supposed to know you were joking?
jokes are jokes, but when it's about drugs/dosing, i try to be serious.
but hell, i know this board just loves to flame people.
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shut the fuck up acolyte
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#47
 2008-03-16, 23:40
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Originally Posted by Internet-Weed-Dude
I've got some 15 mg MS Contin. Timed release morphine tablets. I've never really been able to catch much off these even after taking a few. I've read that they're meant to last 12 hours with the coating on.. so how would it be spread out. would it give you like 5 mg every 4 hours or something around there? if i were to insufflate one of them and get all 15 mg at once how many hours would that last? i just want to know a bit about it before i decide how many to do.
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The CONTIN in ms contin indicate it is CONTINUOUS release. So oyu dont need to tell us they are timed release. Its not the coating that is time released it is the WHOLE PILL. So rubbing the coating off wont do anything. Even crushing it wont completely defeat the time release.
aand 15 mgs isnt going to do shit. starting dose for n tolerance for me was 30mgs. 50mgs would get me nodding. not anymore though since i have a tolerance.
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#48
 2008-03-16, 23:58
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you fucking idiot. i never said i only had one of them.
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#49
 2008-03-17, 00:13
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Originally Posted by Internet-Weed-Dude
you fucking idiot. i never said i only had one of them.
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YOu may want to qoute someone there chief. We don't know who the fuck your tallking to.
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#50
 2008-03-17, 00:15
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you fucking idiot. i never said i only had one of them.
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And I never said you only had 1 retard. I just said 15mgs aint gonna do shit for you.(if that was directed toward me)
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#51
 2008-03-17, 00:25
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you're fucking stupid. you implied i only had 15 milligrams or why would you say '15 MG WONT EVEN GET YOU FUCKED UP RETARD'.
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#52
 2008-03-17, 00:41
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Originally Posted by Internet-Weed-Dude
you're fucking stupid. you implied i only had 15 milligrams or why would you say '15 MG WONT EVEN GET YOU FUCKED UP RETARD'.
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Wow your stupid.
I've got some 15 mg MS Contin. Timed release morphine tablets. I've never really been able to catch much off these even after taking a few. I've read that they're meant to last 12 hours with the coating on.. so how would it be spread out. would it give you like 5 mg every 4 hours or something around there? if i were to insufflate one of them and get all 15 mg at once how many hours would that last? i just want to know a bit about it before i decide how many to do.
Notice you said even after a few. Meaning you implied you took 1 15mg dose before. I wwas letting you know that 1 15mg dose isnt going to do shit for. What are you really braindamged or something. I never implied you only had 1 I only said 1 wont do shit because you said "even after a few."
Even a few(3) is only 45 mgs and still is not that much if you have anykind of tolerance.
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#53
 2008-03-17, 04:31
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15mg's of MS Contin is like doing 2 Perks......pointless. You have to do at least 60mgs to feel the right buzz and do not mix anything else. The mistake beginner opiate users make is mixing other shit into the mix. Opiates are best on there own, no weed, no booze....maybe some xanax or ativan later on....maybe. Booze kills the opiate low IMO. True opiate heads will agree I'm sure.....what more do you need when you're in the hand of morpheus??? nothing.
Heroin being the best and when you get to that golden road there's no point doing any other drug, they seem like a waste of time but take your time getting to that golden road kids. Weed and booze are plenty to party on till your in you late 20's and once you're bored of that crap and if you still want to dance with the devil in the pale moon light......try opiates. EXPERIENCED DRUG USERS NEED ONLY APPLY FOR THIS POSTION. No fucken wanker teenager in their parents basements worrying about dropping 15mgs LOL or even 60mgs. If you're worried....its NOT FOR YOU ;)
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#54
 2008-03-17, 22:05
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i hope you wind up mahatmagangbanged
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#55
 2008-03-22, 06:56
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Originally Posted by Euphoria Morning
15mg's of MS Contin is like doing 2 Perks......pointless. You have to do at least 60mgs to feel the right buzz and do not mix anything else. The mistake beginner opiate users make is mixing other shit into the mix. Opiates are best on there own, no weed, no booze....maybe some xanax or ativan later on....maybe. Booze kills the opiate low IMO. True opiate heads will agree I'm sure.....what more do you need when you're in the hand of morpheus??? nothing.
Heroin being the best and when you get to that golden road there's no point doing any other drug, they seem like a waste of time but take your time getting to that golden road kids. Weed and booze are plenty to party on till your in you late 20's and once you're bored of that crap and if you still want to dance with the devil in the pale moon light......try opiates. EXPERIENCED DRUG USERS NEED ONLY APPLY FOR THIS POSTION. No fucken wanker teenager in their parents basements worrying about dropping 15mgs LOL or even 60mgs. If you're worried....its NOT FOR YOU ;)
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YOUR TELLLING HIM TO TAKE XANAX OR ATIVAN BUT NOT SMOKE WEED?A benzo may not be a good idea since many opiate related deaths occur in combination with a benzo. It is erfectly fine to smoke weed and I find they intensify eachother very nicely. It makes me feel like im super stoned and it kicks in my opiates euphoria faster, so i get less dysphoria. Weed definetly makes the high better.
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#56
 2008-03-22, 16:37
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Fuckin tards.This shit was hijacked.For future advice,dont argue with noob.I cant believe Im helping you out.If you cant catch any off a few.try railing or plugging 3 or 4 at a time.If that dont work theres only 1 option.Up the fucking dose.Later.Im on alot of valium right now so maybe thats why I feel a little generous.Typically I dont think anyone really catches the buzz they want from morphine.Its more of a body high.Ive taken up to 300mg to try to catch a nod,instead my heart almost stopped beating.Catch my drift?You gotta do alot of morphine to get that good high,not just a shitty mild body buzz.If you bang those motherfuckers though,youll have a whole new experience!Mahat is also such a fag.(:) sidenote)
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#57
 2008-03-22, 22:50
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I've read that they're meant to last 12 hours with the coating on..
I've read that the coating is only meant to make it easy to swallow, and has NO time-release qualities. I've read that some people are fucking stupid...
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#58
 2008-03-23, 00:01
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I've read that the coating is only meant to make it easy to swallow, and has NO time-release qualities. I've read that some people are fucking stupid...
lawlz.
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#59
 2008-03-23, 04:23
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Originally Posted by xxdarksidexx
Fuckin tards.This shit was hijacked.For future advice,dont argue with noob.I cant believe Im helping you out.If you cant catch any off a few.try railing or plugging 3 or 4 at a time.If that dont work theres only 1 option.Up the fucking dose.Later.Im on alot of valium right now so maybe thats why I feel a little generous.Typically I dont think anyone really catches the buzz they want from morphine.Its more of a body high.Ive taken up to 300mg to try to catch a nod,instead my heart almost stopped beating.Catch my drift?You gotta do alot of morphine to get that good high,not just a shitty mild body buzz.If you bang those motherfuckers though,youll have a whole new experience!Mahat is also such a fag.(:) sidenote)
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i know what you're saying man. i made this thread ages ago, and in the meantime i've discovered that MS contin fails. i dont care if it's morphine either.
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