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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-02-02, 20:47 |
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 LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
So I have a friend that's buying some acid and they guy that is selling to him says it's a stronger type of acid called LSD 27.
My friend said he has only heard the term LSD 25, but never LSD 27. So my friend is afraid that this guy might be trying to sell him some kind of bunk acid or maybe a RC.
He said it was $200 for a whole sheet. My friend has heard that $200 is a little bit above average price but still a fair deal.
So bltc, what do you think about this? My friend really appreciates the help.
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#2
2008-02-02, 20:48 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Bullshit.
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#3
2008-02-02, 20:51 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Bullshit.
That's what I'm thinking. B/c from what I've heard the only thing that the number means at the end of LSD is the 25th acid that the creator of LSD made or some shit like that.
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#4
2008-02-02, 20:52 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
200 for a 100 sheet of acid sounds about right.
maybe its good acid, maybe the guy is just trying to sell it.
get a couple tabs to try before you buy a whole sheet in case it br-dragonfly or DOx, but its probably just LSD.
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#5
2008-02-02, 20:53 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
That's what I'm thinking. B/c from what I've heard the only thing that the number means at the end of LSD is the 25th acid that the creator of LSD made or some shit like that.
Right, it's either fake or normal acid, and he's just trying to hype it. Try some first.
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#6
2008-02-02, 20:55 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Right, it's either fake or normal acid, and he's just trying to hype it. Try some first.
But is $200 a sheet an ok price? Idk I think he might be trying to rip my friend off b/c the least bit he'll sell him is half a sheet. And he wants like $100 for that 
EDIT: Maybe my friend will ask him for a test run. |
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2008-02-02, 20:58 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
It is called LSD 25 because it was the 25th in a series of substitutions performed on ergotamine. The term LSD actually comes from the german chemical nomenclature, but it has still stuck with it through all these years.
And since Sandoz, the guys with Hoffmans original records on everything, are being dicks, one can only speculate what the 27th compound in that series was, though there are a number of analogues that are active, but the odds of you seeing it are low, quite low, odds are you have some type of substituted phenethylamine amphetamine such as DOB, DOM, DOI, DOET, DOC or DON.
This sounds like a CLASSIC research chemical rip off here. Presenting it as a well known chemical instead of just telling people wtf it is, to avoid putting off idiots, THEN all the idiots take it as gospel, and next thing ya know, there's a new drug epidemic, except it's really some random research chemical, and not the faggy name the retards have picked out for it, such as phoenix and lsd 27, and the rest of that retarded shit.
Either get the guy to fess up, or don't fuck with it. Your health isn't worth it, god only knows what the fuck is actually on there.
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#8
2008-02-02, 21:00 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
It is called LSD 25 because it was the 25th in a series of substitutions performed on ergotamine. The term LSD actually comes from the german chemical nomenclature, but it has still stuck with it through all these years.
And since Sandoz, the guys with Hoffmans original records on everything, are being dicks, one can only speculate what the 27th compound in that series was, though there are a number of analogues that are active, but the odds of you seeing it are low, quite low, odds are you have some type of substituted phenethylamine amphetamine such as DOB, DOM, DOI, DOET, DOC or DON.
I don't suppose that theres anyway to test if it's real acid?
EDIT: I guess I can do a black light test.
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2008-02-02, 21:02 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
I think there are, but I never cared to actually check em out because I never buy off anyone I don't trust, and every time it's been good shit. You can tell when it's real, and when it's something different.
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#10
2008-02-02, 21:04 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
dude, like i said, get a couple tabs first.
just tell him straight up "im buying a whole sheet man, if its as good as you say it is then you have nothing to worry about. the only reason you wouldnt let me try it is because its shit, or because its something else"
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2008-02-02, 21:05 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
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I think there are, but I never cared to actually check em out because I never buy off anyone I don't trust, and every time it's been good shit. You can tell when it's real, and when it's something different.
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Sorry to bug, and I guess I can do the research myself,
But is there any sure fire way to tell the difference? I know acid shouldn't taste metallic like.
I mean acid is already rare around my parts, there just happens to be a huge rave in my area tonight and I was referred to this guy by a friend.
EDIT: Yeah I think I'm just going to say I need to buy a couple of tabs first. Idk I'm kind of sketchy about trying random RC's.... And I don't exactly know what to look for since I've never done acid. |
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2008-02-02, 21:05 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
I'd be wary of it. Possibly RCs or something else undesirable.
--KP
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2008-02-02, 21:11 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Sorry to bug, and I guess I can do the research myself,
But is there any sure fire way to tell the difference? I know acid shouldn't taste metallic like.
I mean acid is already rare around my parts, there just happens to be a huge rave in my area tonight and I was referred to this guy by a friend.
EDIT: Yeah I think I'm just going to say I need to buy a couple of tabs first. Idk I'm kind of sketchy about trying random RC's.... And I don't exactly know what to look for since I've never done acid.
you headed to mardi gras?
theres gonna be loads of acid there man..
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2008-02-02, 21:15 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
A blacklight test won't necessarily tell you if it's real acid or not - it can only tell you if it's not real.
The only way to tell that I've ever known about - short of having a HPLC [High-performance liquid chromatography] - is to test a couple of hit as suggested. But you have to have taken acid enough to know the difference to know the difference.
But I can assure you that there is no such thing as LSD-27, except perhaps - as SN said - somewhere in Sandoz labs.
Personally I wouldn't buy shit from someone who is either: A) making up shit to hype and sell his stuff, or B) someone who is too stupid to know wtf he is talking about.
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#15
2008-02-02, 21:26 |
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I got dat LSD-56 nigga.
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2008-02-02, 21:28 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
yea guy he's hustling you
lol lsd-27
i got 5000-MeO-AMT
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#17
2008-02-02, 22:00 |
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i got 5000-MeO-AMT
I got 3c-b :p
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2008-02-02, 23:03 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
But is there any sure fire way to tell the difference?
The Keller (GAA/H2SO4/FeCl3) and Van Urk (PDMABA/H2SO4/UV) tests for indoles are as close to "definative" as you're likely to get without doing large amounts of analytical chemistry.
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2008-02-03, 04:47 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
you headed to mardi gras?
theres gonna be loads of acid there man..
WTF? Who told you that shit?
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#20
2008-02-03, 04:57 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
I know many people will disagree with me on this...but...
Where did the days go where blotter was either LSD or nothing? All these RCs just fuck it all up. DAMN YOU FUCKING RESEARCH CHEMICALS  |
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2008-02-03, 05:16 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
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I know many people will disagree with me on this...but...
Where did the days go where blotter was either LSD or nothing? All these RCs just fuck it all up. DAMN YOU FUCKING RESEARCH CHEMICALS |
What days? I don't think there was ever a specific time like that... there is always a chance of getting something bunk or something beside cid, this is nothing new. Even way back in the sixes there was rc's floating around and being sold off as cid.
It all comes down to making sure you have a solid/trustworthy connect. Avoid fools selling shit like lsd-27. I mean there is nothing wrong with rc's but if some1 is deliberately selling an rc as cid or mescaline as a means for sales then fuxk them. They then on the other hand could be legit and just be straight and inform the buyer what the fuxk it truly is and let them decide for themselves...
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#22
2008-02-03, 05:18 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Some homeless dude at Dunkin Donuts sold me some Bromo-HorseFLY blotter, shit that was potent. Triple-dipped in RAID.
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2008-02-03, 05:23 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
What days? I don't think there was ever a specific time like that... there is always a chance of getting something bunk or something beside cid, this is nothing new. Even way back in the sixes there was rc's floating around and being sold off as cid.
It all comes down to making sure you have a solid/trustworthy connect. Avoid fools selling shit like lsd-27. I mean there is nothing wrong with rc's but if some1 is deliberately selling an rc as cid or mescaline as a means for sales then fuxk them. They then on the other hand could be legit and just be straight and inform the buyer what the fuxk it truly is and let them decide for themselves...
.peace.
Putting mescaline onto blotter would be wasteful. You wouldn't be able to put enough mescaline onto a tab for it to do very much (or anything at all, for that matter) to you.
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2008-02-03, 05:27 |
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^^^
Where did I say anything about mescaline being put onto blotter...?
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2008-02-03, 05:35 |
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^^^
Where did I say anything about mescaline being put onto blotter...?
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Sorry, I made the mistake of assuming that everyone only bought their acid in blotter form, because that's what I do to ensure that it filters out possiblities of other drugs.
But I DID mention in my original post that RCs are fucking up blotter. Here -
Originally posted by SydMorrison:
I know many people will disagree with me on this...but...
Where did the days go where blotter was either LSD or nothing? All these RCs just fuck it all up. DAMN YOU FUCKING RESEARCH CHEMICALS
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2008-02-03, 05:45 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
I didn’t miss anything, and I understood what you post was implying however as I stated..
What days? I don't think there was ever a specific time like that... there is always a chance of getting something bunk or something beside cid, this is nothing new. Even way back in the sixes there was rc's floating around and being sold off as cid.
Botter sheets could be laced with an rc and sold off as cid, like I said this is nothing new...
As far as my latter statement-
It all comes down to making sure you have a solid/trustworthy connect. Avoid fools selling shit like lsd-27. I mean there is nothing wrong with rc's but if some1 is deliberately selling an rc as cid or mescaline as a means for sales then fuxk them. They then on the other hand could be legit and just be straight and inform the buyer what the fuxk it truly is and let them decide for themselves...
that was just addressing the OP.
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2008-02-03, 05:51 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
It is called LSD 25 because it was the 25th in a series of substitutions performed on ergotamine. The term LSD actually comes from the german chemical nomenclature, but it has still stuck with it through all these years.
And since Sandoz, the guys with Hoffmans original records on everything, are being dicks, one can only speculate what the 27th compound in that series was, though there are a number of analogues that are active, but the odds of you seeing it are low, quite low, odds are you have some type of substituted phenethylamine amphetamine such as DOB, DOM, DOI, DOET, DOC or DON.
This sounds like a CLASSIC research chemical rip off here. Presenting it as a well known chemical instead of just telling people wtf it is, to avoid putting off idiots, THEN all the idiots take it as gospel, and next thing ya know, there's a new drug epidemic, except it's really some random research chemical, and not the faggy name the retards have picked out for it, such as phoenix and lsd 27, and the rest of that retarded shit.
Either get the guy to fess up, or don't fuck with it. Your health isn't worth it, god only knows what the fuck is actually on there.
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You just know that whenever you see a SN post, it's just gonna be him saying what all us educated folk are thinking. |
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#28
2008-02-03, 05:53 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Botter sheets could be laced with an rc and sold off as cid, like I said this is nothing new...
Were research chemicals really that common in the sixties when LSD was in it's most widespread circulation (and even legal up until '66)?
I can't see people being as concerned about getting an RC instead of LSD back then as they are now.
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2008-02-03, 06:29 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Were research chemicals really that common in the sixties when LSD was in it's most widespread circulation (and even legal up until '66)?
I can't see people being as concerned about getting an RC instead of LSD back then as they are now.
DOx chems.
thats all you have to worry about now to. ive never heard of bromo dragonfly being on a blotter, and the only place ive heard of DOx being on a blotter was on the internet.
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#30
2008-02-03, 06:31 |
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WTF? Who told you that shit?
mardi gras is a big rave in LA, tonight, right now, and the OP is in SoCal.
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#31
2008-02-03, 06:37 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
SoCal? I hear that there is a little lady? Down by Hollywood & Vine? She'll whip up a potion: LSD #9!?
It smells like turpentine & it looks like india ink.
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#32
2008-02-03, 06:40 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
Were research chemicals really that common in the sixties when LSD was in it's most widespread circulation (and even legal up until '66)?
I wouldn’t say they were common in the sixties just as I wouldn't say they are all that common now -but it probably depends on your location and such...
Anyhow from what I've heard, DOM (which was sold under the acronym 'STP' meaning serenity, tranquility, and peace) was sold off as cid back in the 60's, many times causing ill reactions since users weren’t ready for such a prolonged experience...
.peace.
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2008-02-03, 06:43 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
I wouldn’t say they were common in the sixties just as I wouldn't say they are all that common now but it probably depends on your location and such...
Anyhow from what I've heard DOM (which was sold under the acronym 'STP' meaning serenity, tranquility, and peace) was likely to be sold off as cid back in the 60's, many times causing ill reactions since users weren’t ready for such a prolonged experience...
.peace.
And also there are those that say that the "Orange Sunshine" hits in the bay area in the 60's were ALD-52.
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2008-02-03, 06:49 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
And also there are those that say that the "Orange Sunshine" hits in the bay area in the 60's were ALD-52.
hell if i got sold "LSD" and it turned out to be ALD-52, id be happy as fuck and buy as much as possible lol.
did the 52 get put onto the name the same way the 25 did for lsd?
and i read somewhere that it "degrades" into LSD-25.. true?
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2008-02-03, 07:46 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
and i read somewhere that it "degrades" into LSD-25.. true?
According to wiki, it "readily undergoes hydrolysis to LSD." So yea, it would react with the water vapor in the air to become LSD. Interesting.
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2008-02-03, 08:17 |
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It is called LSD 25 because it was the 25th in a series of substitutions performed on ergotamine. The term LSD actually comes from the german chemical nomenclature, but it has still stuck with it through all these years.
And since Sandoz, the guys with Hoffmans original records on everything, are being dicks, one can only speculate what the 27th compound in that series was, though there are a number of analogues that are active, but the odds of you seeing it are low, quite low, odds are you have some type of substituted phenethylamine amphetamine such as DOB, DOM, DOI, DOET, DOC or DON.
This sounds like a CLASSIC research chemical rip off here. Presenting it as a well known chemical instead of just telling people wtf it is, to avoid putting off idiots, THEN all the idiots take it as gospel, and next thing ya know, there's a new drug epidemic, except it's really some random research chemical, and not the faggy name the retards have picked out for it, such as phoenix and lsd 27, and the rest of that retarded shit.
Either get the guy to fess up, or don't fuck with it. Your health isn't worth it, god only knows what the fuck is actually on there.
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dudee what are yuo talking about, phoenix was the shit ima kill yuop motherfukcer.
Anyways, the odds of you acquiring the LSD-27 are infinetisimal. |
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2008-02-03, 18:42 |
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Re: LSD-27? Wtf is this shit.......
I don't suppose that theres anyway to test if it's real acid?
EDIT: I guess I can do a black light test.
there is a reagent tst, but GFL getting the reagent... i was going to produce it and give it out at festivals but i couldnt get ahold of the req prec chems to make it.
ghetto hippy tip: Lsd is uv reactive.
ghetto hippy tip coralation: uv destroys lsd.
be quick about it, and it doesnt always show up, depends on whats its in/on
also, wtf is with ppl thinking "27" would be better? there is a reason ppl us lsd25, because its the only one of them that works correct. the other few that were active didnt give as good of a balance, save ald.
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