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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-31, 21:17
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Patrick Bateman 
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Optical administration of phenethylamines
I have never tripped before, tonight I will be doing 2c-i with friends. I bought 3/4 cup of water with 75 mg of 2c-i mixed in. I watched it weigh, mix, and all that. The guy who hooked me up is a chem major, and a pretty cool guy, I was glad to spend a day discussing drugs with an intelligent person.
Anywho, for dosing purposes, I have flushed out a visene bottle (exactly 15mg). They did 25 mg each (1/4 cup water), with good results. I wanted to split a 1/4 cup with someone (maybe a pinch more) to get a ~15 mg dose, which I think would be a great introduction to psychedelics. That would be about 2 full visene bottles, plus maybe a quarter bottle on top of that. Cleaning out the bottle I wondered, is it possible to put a few drops in your eye for dosing? I am aware of lysergic being administered this way, but are tryptamines any different in this regard?
If I thought about that before, I would have made sure they mixed it with a lot less water (at this rate, I would have to put a whole bottle in my eye to get ~5mg). Is it possible? more or less efficient? Any other miscellaneous words regarding 2c-i?
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#2
 2008-01-31, 21:22
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
fuck that!!!
a whole bottle visine into your eyes for a dose?!?!? that doesn't seem silly too you? i am honestly chuckling typing this.
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#3
 2008-01-31, 21:24
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GanjaGuru420 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
just drink the damn thing, why the fuck would you wanna put that shit in your eye anyway. And anyone that doses lsd through their eye is also severely retarded.
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#4
 2008-01-31, 21:31
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OP is fucking stupid. Like someone said, 2 visine bottles in your eye????
Retard.
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#5
 2008-01-31, 22:07
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throopguy21 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
fuck off putting the dose in your eye with lsd is amazing.
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#6
 2008-01-31, 22:34
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cid 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
I imagine putting any sort of RC in your eye would burn like holy hell, considering most of them burn the fuck outta your nose when snorted.
But just incase you might want to try it out to prove me wrong.
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#7
 2008-01-31, 22:58
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
If you put 2c-i in your eye it would probably be one of the most painful experiences of your life. And also really dumb.
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#8
 2008-01-31, 23:57
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spl1ff 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
Here's a little story that is semi-related...
Back when this dealer my friend knew sold acid, he told me a story about this guy who bought acid from him, then gleefully exclaimed "put it in my eye put it in my eye!" He obliged, then asked if the guy was okay. He replied, "nah, it burns a little bit but I'm good."
Thank you for your time.
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#9
 2008-02-01, 00:05
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jamaica0535 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
2c-x drugs are supposed to burn like holy hell when snorted...
so i would imagine it would be like stabbing yourself in the eye with a pair of scissors...
just drink it... i would say do a little bit more than 15... 20mg maybe...
sure you could worry about it and take a lower dose but i never regret just going and taking a bit too much the first time i tripped... sure it was completely overwhelming, confusing, and generally insane but it was the most powerful experience of my life...
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#10
 2008-02-01, 00:40
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Patrick Bateman 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear in the OP. I don't plan on putting it in my eye, I realized the possibility after it was mixed. I'm going to use the visene bottle to measure doses since I couldn't find a syringe or measuring cup. Just wondering if it would have been possible with a higher concentration, since I may get more in the future.
I also heard about L.S.D. burning like a sonofabitch in the opticals, as well as 2c-i burning all the way up the chute. I don't why it isn't possible, though, maybe even more effective as a dosing mechanism.
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#11
 2008-02-01, 01:15
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jamaica0535 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
there really hasn't been much study into ocular bioavailability but if you want a good bioavailability plug the liquid. You can accurately measure out the dose with an oral syringe. Apparenly plugging reduces the body load of a lot of pychs but given the short comeup I would say go with an oral dose the first time.
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#12
 2008-02-01, 01:37
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DoctorMayhem 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
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Originally Posted by jamaica0535
there really hasn't been much study into ocular bioavailability but if you want a good bioavailability plug the liquid. You can accurately measure out the dose with an oral syringe. Apparenly plugging reduces the body load of a lot of pychs but given the short comeup I would say go with an oral dose the first time.
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interesting...
hows it compare to intranasal?
dosages?
experience?
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#13
 2008-02-01, 01:47
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
I find plugging 2c's to hit faster and with much less nausea and body load. I can't really say much about dosage. I've read that it takes a much smaller dose. The few times I've done it was with a normal 20 mg dose and can't say that I noticed a huge difference in intensity. Also very little to no burn which is a huge advantage over intranasal.
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#14
 2008-02-01, 07:42
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Patrick Bateman 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
I can see how it would burn to blow 2c-i, it has a very distinctive taste when it's mixed with water. I think that in my situation, logistically, it's better to drink my trip out of a bottle than to squirt it up my ass.
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#15
 2008-02-01, 09:03
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
I'm pretty sure all of the 2c-x's would cause some serious damage to the eye, or atleast HPPD. :p
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#16
 2008-02-01, 15:53
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XstanX 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
LSD is a phenethylamines so you shouldnt have any trouble
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#17
 2008-02-01, 20:09
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Kadafi 
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Re: Optical administration of phenethylamines
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Originally Posted by XstanX
LSD is a phenethylamines so you shouldnt have any trouble
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Nope.
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