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 #1 
Old 2008-01-30, 02:33
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Default Xanax OD?

I was reading another thread a week or so ago (dunno which thread, or what it was about), but somehow it turned into a debate about whether or not it was humanly possible to OD from taking xanax.

Someone said something about feeding 100mg to a monkey and it living, and another said something similar about a friend of theirs. While.. other people said, "Lawl, y'all are stupid, of course you'd OD at those doses!"

Just outta curiosity.. can we get some sources and a final word on the matter?
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:35
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Originally Posted by HandOfZek
I was reading another thread a week or so ago (dunno which thread, or what it was about), but somehow it turned into a debate about whether or not it was humanly possible to OD from taking xanax.

Someone said something about feeding 100mg to a monkey and it living, and another said something similar about a friend of theirs. While.. other people said, "Lawl, y'all are stupid, of course you'd OD at those doses!"

Just outta curiosity.. can we get some sources and a final word on the matter?


You can OD on Xanax. Only an idiot would even consider doubting that.
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:42
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You can OD on Xanax. Only an idiot would even consider doubting that.

Also what I'd been thinking, but thought it would make for an interesting conversation. What dose would one die at anyway?
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:45
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Also what I'd been thinking, but thought it would make for an interesting conversation. What dose would one die at anyway?

19 mg
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:46
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19 mg

Uhm.. source?
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:47
niggar hater niggar hater is offline
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im beginning to think handofzek is one depressed person
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:49
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Uhm.. source?

trust me.
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:50
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trust me.

I don't know you, yo.
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:50
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Originally Posted by niggar hater
im beginning to think handofzek is one depressed person


please leave and return to the KKK..
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:51
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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I don't know you, yo.

well , yo. I don't really give a shit. you asked and i answered.
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:55
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Also what I'd been thinking, but thought it would make for an interesting conversation. What dose would one die at anyway?

Probably over 10 grams.
no typos there..
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Old 2008-01-30, 02:58
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Probably over 10 grams.
no typos there..

Alright. Once again.

Sources?!
 #13 
Old 2008-01-30, 02:58
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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I'm a fucking moron.

really.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:00
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Alright. Once again.

Sources?!

listen up buddy. i already gave you the fucking answer.. i dont really give a FUCK what this other waste of skin that's telling you bullshit thinks. so you can listen to my fucking answer or shut the fuck up about it already.
 #15 
Old 2008-01-30, 03:00
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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"The acute oral LD50 in rats is 331-2171 mg/kg"
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/alpraz_od.htm

Awww did you get another yeast infection internet weed dude? is that why your so irritable today?
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:01
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http://www.erowid.org/pharms/alprazolam/alprazolam_faq.shtml#OVERDOSAGE
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:03
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Wyoming, USA
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I've seen what Erowid has said, and the rat thing several times.

What about HUMAN overdose?
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:04
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMayhem
"The acute oral LD50 in rats is 331-2171 mg/kg"
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/alpraz_od.htm

Awww did you get another yeast infection internet weed dude? is that why your so irritable today?


bud you'd be lucky to see a pussy with a yeast infection once in your life. ill send you pics if you paypal me.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:04
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Originally Posted by HandOfZek
I've seen what Erowid has said, and the rat thing several times.

What about HUMAN overdose?


l FUCKING TOLD YOU THE HUMAN DOSE STRAIGHT UP EARLIER. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!

/ THREAD
 #20 
Old 2008-01-30, 03:07
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I've taken more than 19mg at once myself. So please, stfu.
 #21 
Old 2008-01-30, 03:08
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Originally Posted by HandOfZek
I've taken more than 19mg at once myself. So please, stfu.


No. You haven't.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:09
d4rk3 d4rk3 is offline
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19 mg

You're full of shit.

Just fucking leave, nobody likes you.

You're full of shit.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:09
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I'm pretty sure HTS-Noob ODed on Xanax. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:10
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No. You haven't.

You must not know me.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:12
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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You're full of shit.

Just fucking leave, nobody likes you.

You're full of shit.

i dont give a fuck if you believe me or not. who are you. some faggot on a computer that i'll never meet. boo fucking hoo? i think maybe you could use a 60 mg oxy dose and a benzo
 #26 
Old 2008-01-30, 03:14
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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You must not know me.

I don't care how high you claim your tolerance is. and even if it were true it would be nothing to be proud of. hey what did you do with your life, 'i got my benzo tolerance through the roof, and bragged about it on a message board'
you fail.
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:17
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I don't care how high you claim your tolerance is. and even if it were true it would be nothing to be proud of. hey what did you do with your life, 'i got my benzo tolerance through the roof, and bragged about it on a message board'
you fail.

Bragged?

I had seizures from the WDs that caused my shoulder to come out of place (intense pain), and loosened up those muscles to the point where moving too quickly would cause it to pop out again.

Came out 13 times, and I had to get surgery that immobilized my right arm for a while. Still going the physical therapy, and can't move my arm as much as I should be able to and there's barely ANY strength left in it. I can't open Gatorade bottles!
 #28 
Old 2008-01-30, 03:20
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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worst case scenario you go into a coma for however long it takes the drug to drop to a level where your conscience... A friend of SN ate like 90mg of klonopin if i remember correctly and went into a coma for a couple weeks...

by themselves its hard to have a fatal overdose of benzos... but throw in alcohol, or a little bit of an opiate and you might as well shoot yourself in the head...

You could eat a full gram gram of triazolam... and you could be out of a coma in a day or two... got to love an average half life of 2 hours...
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:22
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Originally Posted by jamaica0535
worst case scenario you go into a coma for however long it takes the drug to drop to a level where your conscience... A friend of SN ate like 90mg of klonopin if i remember correctly and went into a coma for a couple weeks...

by themselves its hard to have a fatal overdose of benzos... but throw in alcohol, or a little bit of an opiate and you might as well shoot yourself in the head...

You could eat a full gram gram of triazolam... and you could be out of a coma in a day or two... got to love an average half life of 2 hours...


Okay, if a person were to eat 100mg alprazolam, how much alcohol do you think would it take before they died?
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Old 2008-01-30, 03:22
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Bragged?

I had seizures from the WDs that caused my shoulder to come out of place (intense pain), and loosened up those muscles to the point where moving too quickly would cause it to pop out again.

Came out 13 times, and I had to get surgery that immobilized my right arm for a while. Still going the physical therapy, and can't move my arm as much as I should be able to and there's barely ANY strength left in it. I can't open Gatorade bottles!

sorry to hear that. really.
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:02
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Okay, if a person were to eat 100mg alprazolam, how much alcohol do you think would it take before they died?

for that much xanax, i wouldn't think it would take much to cause respiratory failure...

not the best way to kill myself i could think of, but i would say get very drunk and then take them all... an opiate will further depress the respiratory system...

but dont kill yourself man... there is so very much to live for, it just takes the right mindset to see it...
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:13
GlitterPunk112358 GlitterPunk112358 is offline
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for that much xanax, i wouldn't think it would take much to cause respiratory failure...

not the best way to kill myself i could think of, but i would say get very drunk and then take them all... an opiate will further depress the respiratory system...

but dont kill yourself man... there is so very much to live for, it just takes the right mindset to see it...

I don't have any definite answers, and of course the amount of alcohol would vary greatly by person. But if you drink enough to get drunk and take enough Xanax to get fucked up (i. e. way less than what you mentioned, most likely [though I really don't know your tolerance]), I'm pretty sure you'll be close to death.

But yeah, don't kill yourself. Obviously.
 #33 
Old 2008-01-30, 04:18
ak-kapocsi ak-kapocsi is offline
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wow. If you guys aren't bullshitting on the average "death dose"
i feel really stupid
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HandOfZek
I've seen what Erowid has said, and the rat thing several times.

What about HUMAN overdose?


You fucking moron. Do you really think they sit in a lab and test LD50's on humans? Rats are the closest approximate they test to humans.
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:23
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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You fucking moron. Do you really think they sit in a lab and test LD50's on humans? Rats are the closest approximate they test to humans.

the thing is that even though some animals can be much more sensitive to certain drugs than others... like rabbit are more sensitive to things like LSD to the point where the LD50 is much lower than rats... when you have ld50s for xanax in the grams per kilogram there is a large margin of saftey there... if we act similarly to them, and we do... i believe i could take 20 grams and live... probably 70 and live as long as i had a feeding tube...
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:25
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You fucking moron. Do you really think they sit in a lab and test LD50's on humans? Rats are the closest approximate they test to humans.

But they do keep a record of the human ODs that do happen, right? I mean, if someone comes in and says, "I took this entire bottle, never opened before," there's some evidence.

They have LD50's on humans for other drugs, where do you think those came from?
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:29
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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But they do keep a record of the human ODs that do happen, right? I mean, if someone comes in and says, "I took this entire bottle, never opened before," there's some evidence.

They have LD50's on humans for other drugs, where do you think those came from?

in humans with only the benzo in their system people have survived massive doses... 100mg of xanax would probably put you into a coma for a few days by itself but you would live short of taking them in the middle of the desert and dying from exposure while in the coma...

like i said before, people have taken 90mg of klonopin and woken up in the hospital a couple weeks later... klonopin is around the same strength as xanax but with a considerably longer half life... you would still be comatose but for much less time...
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:38
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Wyoming, USA
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Heh, thanks for the replies guys.

<3
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Old 2008-01-30, 04:47
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Mi.
Default Re: Xanax OD?

But they do keep a record of the human ODs that do happen, right? I mean, if someone comes in and says, "I took this entire bottle, never opened before," there's some evidence.

They have LD50's on humans for other drugs, where do you think those came from?

I think kinda. I've read shit like this person took (high amount of mg.) and survived and then, this person took (considerably lower amount of mg. than the survivor) and died. I don't know though, never really looked for this kinda information. Anything I've took has been FAR below an LD.00000000000000000001.
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Old 2008-01-30, 05:25
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I think kinda. I've read shit like this person took (high amount of mg.) and survived and then, this person took (considerably lower amount of mg. than the survivor) and died. Also, individual human brain chemistry varies tremendously more then that of rats.
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Old 2008-01-30, 08:53
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a friend of a friend of an aquitance of a friends friend OD'd off of 1 mg which he injected into his anus.
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Old 2008-01-31, 16:11
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Originally Posted by Low Rider
a friend of a friend of an aquitance of a friends friend OD'd off of 1 mg which he injected into his anus.


Lol was this supposed to be serious?If it wasnt my bad.
 #43 
Old 2008-01-31, 19:22
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Internet-Weed-dude, you have shit for brains.
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Old 2008-01-31, 21:35
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dude who gets peaches from me hel buy 60 or 70 at a time, eat 40 of em soon as i hand him the bag and i wont see him at all for a few days, then like in the middle of the week il see him sittin on his front step and hel be like "yo dawg you got anymore them peach jawns?" so i guess hes got a high tolorence for em but he has eaten handfulls plenty of times and has never od'ed. it fucking makes me feel sick seein him eat thet much xanax, but that his drug of choice, likes to get fuckin whacked off xanax
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Old 2008-01-31, 22:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sabian
dude who gets peaches from me hel buy 60 or 70 at a time, eat 40 of em soon as i hand him the bag and i wont see him at all for a few days, then like in the middle of the week il see him sittin on his front step and hel be like "yo dawg you got anymore them peach jawns?" so i guess hes got a high tolorence for em but he has eaten handfulls plenty of times and has never od'ed. it fucking makes me feel sick seein him eat thet much xanax, but that his drug of choice, likes to get fuckin whacked off xanax


40 peaches=20 blues=10 bars. Not a big deal.
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Old 2008-02-01, 00:27
GlitterPunk112358 GlitterPunk112358 is offline
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40 peaches=20 blues=10 bars. Not a big deal.

20mg of Xanax is still something. It's quite a bit.
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Old 2008-02-01, 01:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HandOfZek
I've seen what Erowid has said, and the rat thing several times.

What about HUMAN overdose?

Dude, dont kill yourself.
Think of us back in HB.
(protip:HOZ makes threads about depression in HB weekly.
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Old 2008-02-01, 03:35
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40 peaches=20 blues=10 bars. Not a big deal.

never said it was, just stating some facts dude
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Old 2008-02-01, 03:53
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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40 peaches=20 blues=10 bars. Not a big deal.

you are fucking retarded. im not playfully joking..
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Old 2008-02-01, 04:24
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Originally Posted by drunkvador
I'm pretty sure HTS-Noob ODed on Xanax. Maybe I'm wrong.


i think your thinking of od'ing on highlighters.
 
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