Whats a good dose to feel real good and how should i take it? Just checkin around to see whats good about it.

Vicodin.
Not Vicoden.
And whats your tolerance like?

Peace.

In you pie hole.

Say if they were 10mg each, i'd take 4. :)

Please help me Jesus.

should i break them in half?

they say 7.5/750 TAB on the bottle

take 3 to start

4 and you might throw up, but that's the worst that will happen with vicodin.

2 if your a girl/lightweight/pussy

Why is everyone so scared to puke on opiates? If you puke it means you took close to enough. Hit the porcelain and bounce back in full effect.

I heard breaking them in half will greaten the affect

are you fucking retarded? Have you taken Freshman science? What is happening is a reaction in your pathetic, drug-retarded, can't figure shit out for themselves body. Increasing the surface area decreases the reaction time, so the effects come on faster and stronger.

take 30mg.

I wish I had that FUCK YOU ACOLYTE picture now.

Wow, consciouscowboy in again with another retarded post... If you throw up, either your body just doesn't react well to either APAP, or the opiate/opioid... OR you took too much (not "close to enough") I’ve taken more opiates/opioids in my life than I care to remember, and I've never once thrown up from them. Not one time. People who assume throwing up is part of the high are those who say you need to blow 40 mg of Oxy with no tolerance and "nodding out and laying in one spot for a few hours" is the high you want to try to achieve... Why would you fucking want that? To further the stereotype that drug users are useless to society? To make people think drug users are all lazy, no good, assholes? You can achieve a wonderful euphoria from opiates/opioids and still function completely normally. If you can't function completely normally, you probably took too much.
As for the OP, it depends on tons of things... For example, height and weight, personal tolerance, etc etc. But normally people with no tolerance, of an average build usually need ~15 - 20 mg of Hydrocodone to feel a good high.

I'm just trying to combat the pussyism that is spreading like a plague.

Oh, yeah... You mean that harm reduction and ignorance prevention me and some others have recently really been trying to put out there? Yeah... That shit sucks, right? Fuck, we should all just take so many drugs we die, that'd be wall cooler. It would certainly make us hardc0rez0rz!!!1! It would at the very least increase our e-penis by a good few inches.

Quit fuckin' taking opiate pills, ya fucks! Heroin beats any bloody pill you'll ever find. Save money, smoke heroin. But, if you must know; take about 40mg's, no less. It's funny how people think half life's of pills is so short. Take 10mg's, if you like it, take another 10, then another 20. First timers, start slow, work your way up. Unless, of course, you're a junkie, then start off with a high dose, but don't expect the same effects the next time when you can't afford the 25 dollars to get 'high.' Buy heroin, do it right.

I don't think I have ever recommended anyone to take a toxic amount buddy. Thank god we have you looking out for us.

Wow... You're a bigger dumb ass than I previously assumed... I'm done responding to your pointless messages. They aren't helping anyone, and are only feeding your retarded ego. Besides that, you're clearly missing the OBVIOUS points to my messages. If you want to take large amounts of drugs, go for it, I couldn't care less. But maybe you should try letting the adults give the advice to people who genuinely need help, ok? Thanks...

ok dude sorry I asked.

No, not you, that message (Like many I have to post, sadly...) was directed towards consciouscowboy.

ok dude sorry I asked.

You are forgiven.

Oh ok. So i know i sound like a dumb ass but is breaking them in half a good idea?

Oh ok. So i know i sound like a dumb ass but is breaking them in half a good idea?

That or crush em up real good and wrap in a tissue. :)

This thread is a fuckin' noob convention.

I'm blowin this popsicle stand.

Yeah, most abusers will break them in half at the very least. But many of them will crush them into a powder and pour it into a mouthful of coca-cola (or another strong flavored beverage), or put the powder into some toilet paper and "parachute" it.

Yep.

OP, if you aren't accustomed to the taste of pill in your mouth, your best bet is to start out parachuting. Over time you'll learn to just chew them up (and be able to tolerate it). Some people don't ever mind the taste...some want to hurl when they even think of chewing them up. It's all about preference really, just don't swallow the fuckers whole.

7.5 Vics, definitely start with 3, maybe 4-5 if your feeling froggy. This isn't a large dose, but if your new at this it's a good place to start. Also, mind the APAP..

I wish I had that FUCK YOU ACOLYTE picture now.

http://s1.tinypic.com/6llhdax_th.jpg

4 - 5?! No way, if he doesn't have a tolerance 2 should get him high, 3 at the VERY most. Why waste unnecessary pills? You're just putting your health in risk, and spending money you don't need to spend. Actually, it's worse than spending unnecessary money, because it's unnecessary pills. Even if you have money, there is no guarantee you can get more. Besides, the most common 7.5 Vicodin has 750 mg of APAP in it. That means I would recommend no more than 4 in any 24 hours period, and even less then that if you planned on doing it with any sort of regularity.

God damn, just shut the fuck up you whiney bitch. OMG, A 2 Vic difference might blow a hole in his heart!

Id take 4-5 to make it worth while.

This from a dude that thinks he knows alot about pills. Fuck you. Your an ignorant dipshit. If you do actually read what this dipshit says (which I doubt you don't because he types like a 3 yr old..) I wouldn't take it to heart. I've honestly met small children with better paragraph/typing skills. Even if you don't think his typing skills have credence in the matter, it shines light on his general intelligence..and the outcome isn't very good.

OP, if you really want your pills worth, i'd do what anyone said..except Mahatmaganja. He'd argue if it was the exact advice he was going to give, just because he wants to look smarter than he really is.

This from a dude that thinks he knows alot about pills. Fuck you. Your an ignorant dipshit. If you do actually read what this dipshit says (which I doubt you don't because he types like a 3 yr old..) I wouldn't take it to heart. I've honestly met small children with better paragraph/typing skills. Even if you don't think his typing skills have credence in the matter, it shines light on his general intelligence..and the outcome isn't very good.

OP, if you really want your pills worth, i'd do what anyone said..except Mahatmaganja. He'd argue if it was the exact advice he was going to give, just because he wants to look smarter than he really is.

Finally someone agrees.

Nah you don't need 40mg your first time.

I took 15mg my first time, and I kinda nodded. The fish on my wallpaper in the bathroom kept moving its mouth at me, lol. I was feeling pretty euphoric too.

I'd say 20-25mg for your first time, even though 15mg did the job for me.

Are most people mentally retarded now or something? Is there a massive amount of lead contaminating your water?

Google it. Then read some trip reports. Then research it some more. THEN take a relatively small dose (like a few pills). IF you don't feel high enough then take another one. Then another one. Then another. And so on. After this first experience you should have a good idea what dose you require.

Honestly, everyone wants to be spoon fed everything. Would you ask how many beers to drink? No. You drink until your drunk.

Everyone is different. Do some ground research, experiment, and then take the appropriate dose next time. You shouldn't get sick if you slowly increase the dosage, and even if you do, I'm assuming your an opiate noob, in which case the high would still be amazing regardless of a little vomiting.

E: OP the flaming wasn't totally directed at you, its just annoying seeing people asking how much to take all the time. Like its rocket science or something.

FUCKIN' THANK YOU!

Jesus christ, someone here actually has a properly working brain!

Oh, and mahatmaganja, you need to shut the FUCK up. You are spouting off with pure bullshit, noob. Even your name is annoying. Everytime i see that gay ass fucking weed pride bullshit I want to punch my computer screen.

Learn how to use paragraphs you fuckin' retard. I read about 4 of your sentences, which is nothin but ignorant bullshit (I can tell most of your drug 'experiance' was actually from reading erowid), an I can't even go on anymore. Not that I would want to read anymore of your garbage anyways, but it just makes it a whole lot uglier.

And in that other thread when you claimed to "know everything," jesus christ man. Please GTFO of my BLTC, or at least make a new username that's not as gay and learn how to properly post. And don't tell anyone.

mahatmaganja, Internet-Weed-Dude, Captain Cannabis, you all need to seriousley grow the fuck up. What the fuck is with you people and your faggot 420 pride names??

Oh, and mahatmaganja, you need to shut the FUCK up. You are spouting off with pure bullshit, noob. Even your name is annoying. Everytime i see that gay ass fucking weed ride bullshit I want to punch my computer screen.

Learn how to use paragraphs you fuckin' retard. I read about 4 of your sentences, which is nothin but ignorant bullshit (I can tell most of your drug 'experiance' was actually from reading erowid), an I can't even go on anymore. Not that I would want to read anymore of your garbage anyways, but it just makes it a whole lot uglier.

And in that other thread when you claimed to "know everything," jesus christ man. Please GTFO off of my BLTC, or at least make a new username that's not as gay and learn how to properly post. And don't tell anyone.

No. Fucking thank you, sir.

Finally someone agrees.

No dood, I agree with you too. Actually, here's what's going on.

"Mahatmaganja420" is probably about 15 or 16 years old. He lives with his parents, has done some drugs, and is obviously more intelligent than his friends. That's not hard to do when you're in high school, because everyone is retarded. I remember 10th grade. I was a fucking genius because I hadn't been into the real world and I didn't realize that in competitive fields, EVERYONE is that smart, so I wouldn't automatically have an advantage without trying. THAT really did not prepare me so well for the real world AT ALL.

But anyway, back on topic, since this kid is sooo smart and knows more about drugs than anyone else he took freshman health with, that automatically gives him license to spread his wisdom all over the Interwebs, because he is obviously a lot smarter than most of the noobs on here. (I am sorry for using two circumstantial clauses in the same sentence; it won't happen again.) The only problem is that all he's ever done is smoke weed, drink Robitussin, a few Vicodin here and Xanax there... you know, the stuff we all did, put the HIGH back in high school. So he just reads a lot about drugs (he is good at reading shit and remembering it, which is how he got this far without anyone realizing that his "intelligence" is not any great critical reasoning skill but rather the ability to recall facts, which a monkey could do) and what other people have done with them, makes those experiences his own, and builds an elaborate alter-ego that has done every drug there is and knows everything there is to know about how they all work. His knowledge is legit because it is an eclectic blend of "street smarts" and book smarts, and his asshole demeanor is to be expected, because HE has done every single drug there is and is smarter than all of us. We should be thanking the Drug God for sending a prophet like this to us.

This kid has never been addicted to anything, has BARELY had any drug experiences, has never had blow or smack, blah blah blah... nobody SERIOUSLY believes that such an arrogant little bitch could ever cut it in the head world! You and I BOTH know that a punk-ass snot like that would get a bullet in his fucking heart after two minutes of this God complex bullshit if he ever REALLY tried to score some dope. You and I both know that substance abuse problems are not some sort of medal that you get to wear and show off to all your friends.

Nobody who has ever REALLY struggled with an addiction would talk about it the way this kid does... and COME ON, he has 420 in his name! Obviously, he JUST WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK HE'S COOL! Let's just give him this!

YOU GO, little boy! You are the coolest kid in your whole damn school! Are you fucking proud of the way you are? Proud that you can piss off so many people on an anonymous discussion forum? Proud that you can make a few dope-stricken douchebags think you've been through a life of drug abuse and gang wars? Proud that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE honestly believes you are hardcore, even if you ARE the biggest asshole they've ever met? You are just too cool. Keep this up, man, maybe you can bullshit your way into middle management one day; it worked for just about everyone else on that payroll.

In other words, quit picking on him... he's just a kid. Let him pretend that he is the best, for Christ's sakes; he's only got a few more years of this free ride before he has to own up to himself and start being more than a tool. I didn't figure that out until my junior year, when I started getting C's because I was stoned all the time - naturally, I was stoned because I was too damn smart for everyone else, so I didn't need to pay attention or do homework or any of that bullshit. All I had to do was impress enough people with my natural skills in persuasive language that my ego would get stroked a little bit every day, and when I went home I wouldn't feel bad for slacking off, because I'd know in my heart that I am a fucking genius and everyone else will be at my feet one day, BEGGING me to save them from whatever retarded future they have built for themselves.

Now look where that got me! Doing a little blow and writing several paragraphs about some retarded kid who is about to make the same shitty choices I did and isn't going to listen to anything anyone has to say about it, because he's too cool.

Ha ha, look, I am an old man who has taken too much dope. My brain is so fucking addled that I can't even write coherently any more. Everything jumps around with no regards to a thesis or topic sentences. Unity and coherence, what is that bullshit? I don't even know anymore. I don't care enough to apply the skills that I do have because I'm an apathetic teenage shithead! And now I'm too feeble-brained to use them because I am old and riddled with the lasting scars of chemical abuse.

I have wasted enough time on this topic. You know that you are not alone now.

(Sorry for taking such a cynical, bitter-ass bent. But you have to realize that this hits very close to home, to the kind of bullshit that I might have done when I was a retarded kid. I guess you could say that even though I think this dude is a Class A Faggot, I really am trying to help him out and mask that to my consciousness by putting on this angry face.)

I agree with you too, but I'm just not going to call this kid on his bullshit anymore, because he's just going to argue until he feels good, and in the event that he can't win, he'll move on to an easier target without even finishing the argument.

I know the type.

Jesus christ dude, + fucking 1 ^.

Fucking LOL. T-zone just ripped that kid in half.

holy shit ghandi got pwned

I bet that is the last we will see of mahatmaganja.


EDIT: hope*

I bet that is the last we will see of mahatmaganja.

Well, actually, I really think it would be great if he could just suck up a little bit of humiliation, own up to himself, change his ways and begin a new, more benevolent journey into the world of altered chemical states and discussion about them. Maybe he just needs some LSD to get back in touch with himself. I know that I was definitely a better person after my first dance with Lucy.

In all honesty, I think he has Asperger's, because he acts just like all the Asperger's kids I knew growing up. You know what? A lot of those kids were TOTALLY AWESOME once they learned how to deal with themselves. He has a lot of potential and I would hate to see that thrown away.

But, at the same time, if he is going to get on here and talk with grown-ups he shouldn't expect NOT to get punched in the metaphorical gut now and then. The targeted goal of my post was to cut his ego out entirely so that he has room for some substantial personal growth.

(Too much psychology bullshit? How's my typing? Dial 1-800-ALPRAZOLAM FTW!!!)

Now for the fun part... y'all could probably find a million things to diagnose ME with if you read this crackhead shit that I write every day! Like, in the post above, I keep switching back and forth between sarcastic jabbing and self-loathing; what the hell is that all about? Is it for some deep psychological reason, or is it just because I'm batshit crazy? I don't believe in psychology, but I extrapolate all my personal experiences to the External World and classify everyone else's brain according to the brains I knew in depth during the most developmental periods of my life. Fuck, dude, you see that, I'm doing the exact same thing I always talk bad about therapists for doing! I am so cool.

I remember a lot of the "heads" from my school. They were the smartest kids around. They were going places, man, but then they expanded their minds so much that they burst and now all they can do is scrape by in a shitty apartment, scamming on welfare to pay for their kids or whatever the fuck they didn't do with themselves.

Uh, the upshot of that last paragraph is: I Am Not A Psychiatrist.