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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-25, 01:04
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GreenPhantomBong 
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why worry about APAP
with all the crap most of you(and i) have taken, why are you worried about APAP?
i just don't see the concern. sure, its bad for you, but if you are so worried about shit like that, why do drugs in the first place? drugs themselves are not good for you either, generally
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#2
 2008-01-25, 01:08
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Re: why worry about APAP
Too many people around. So, don't worry. A small chance is still a good chance.
More dead people = more good people
So take chances. If your number does come up? Plenty more to fill your shoes.
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#3
 2008-01-25, 01:12
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Re: why worry about APAP
why make this thread?
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#4
 2008-01-25, 01:14
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Re: why worry about APAP
Harm reduction. If you're already doing something dangerous, why take unnecessary risks?
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#5
 2008-01-25, 01:15
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
'Cause he's walking in dead man's shoes. He wants to be remembered when he's gone from the blue into the black as one more druggie got too dang whack.
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#6
 2008-01-25, 01:16
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Re: why worry about APAP
drugs themselves are not good for you either, generally
Yes, but everything is not equally bad; some things are worse than others. I personally would not want to rape my liver with APAP if it could be avoided.
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#7
 2008-01-25, 01:17
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Re: why worry about APAP
really, most drugs arent that bad for you.
stimulants can screw with you dopamine, mdma with your seratonin, and alcohol with your liver.
benzos, opiates, hallucinogens (if your not a schizo) weed, etc isnt bad for you unless you od/get addicted
high doses of apap are worse than alcohol for your liver, and you can really even die from liver damage.
i hate the stereotype that all people who even smoke weed spend their whole day stealing money to buy crack. its not like that at all, drug-users are actually pretty careful in my experience
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#8
 2008-01-25, 01:21
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GreenPhantomBong 
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Originally Posted by robinhoody
Harm reduction. If you're already doing something dangerous, why take unnecessary risks?
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thats a good point
but
if i were really concerned about it, i would just not do drugs. doesn't that make more sense?
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#9
 2008-01-25, 01:22
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Originally Posted by GreenPhantomBong
with all the crap most of you(and i) have taken, why are you worried about APAP?
i just don't see the concern. sure, its bad for you, but if you are so worried about shit like that, why do drugs in the first place? drugs themselves are not good for you either, generally
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A normal dose of most recreational drugs won't cause anywhere near the damage of taking a huge dose of APAP
Think of it this way. Say a normal dose of alcohol is 6 beers worth. A normal dose of APAP is 500mg ish. Taking like 10 grams of APAP is as stupid as knocking back 3L of high proof vodka. At normal doses, most things are pretty safe.
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#10
 2008-01-25, 01:22
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GreenPhantomBong 
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Originally Posted by moonmeister
'Cause he's walking in dead man's shoes. He wants to be remembered when he's gone from the blue into the black as one more druggie got too dang whack.
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don't destroy the neil young, man
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#11
 2008-01-25, 01:23
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GreenPhantomBong 
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Re: why worry about APAP
A normal dose of most recreational drugs won't cause anywhere near the damage of taking a huge dose of APAP
Think of it this way. Say a normal dose of alcohol is 6 beers worth. A normal dose of APAP is 500mg ish. Taking like 10 grams of APAP is as stupid as knocking back 3L of high proof vodka. At normal doses, most things are pretty safe.
okay, so tell me. what has 10 grams of APAP in it?(i don't worry about build-up over time)
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#12
 2008-01-25, 01:26
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
okay, so tell me. what has 10 grams of APAP in it?(i don't worry about build-up over time)
Hopefully you. Then there'll be room for a young noob to fill your shoes. Make room ya old fart. Give a kid a chance!
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#13
 2008-01-25, 01:29
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: why worry about APAP
thats a good point
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if i were really concerned about it, i would just not do drugs. doesn't that make more sense?
you're a stupid fucking idiot. people don't do drugs for masochistic reasons. some people actually, gasp, use them because they're fucking fun, and would also like to not do harm to their bodies while using such. why is that hard for you to understand? even a fucking retard could see logic in that.
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#14
 2008-01-25, 01:30
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Re: why worry about APAP
okay, so tell me. what has 10 grams of APAP in it?(i don't worry about build-up over time)
You're going to be one of those kids that I've been hearing about on the news that have made a habit out of drinking cough syrup because they heard it could get them high and then having their livers fail because they were too retrarded to do some fucking research.
Nothing has 10g APAP in it, but not a whole lot of abusable medications have enough of the actual drug (the one that gets you high) to do anything, so you have to take multiple doses.
Go out and chug a bottle of NyQuil, that will answer your question.
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#15
 2008-01-25, 01:35
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Re: why worry about APAP
okay, so tell me. what has 10 grams of APAP in it?(i don't worry about build-up over time)
Nothing has 10g APAP in it, but not a whole lot of abusable medications have enough of the actual drug (the one that gets you high) to do anything, so you have to take multiple doses.
5char
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#16
 2008-01-25, 01:35
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GreenPhantomBong 
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Re: why worry about APAP
You're going to be one of those kids that I've been hearing about on the news that have made a habit out of drinking cough syrup because they heard it could get them high and then having their livers fail because they were too retrarded to do some fucking research
i haven't been a kid for a long time
also, you have no idea how close to home that hit from when i actually was a kid
hahahaha i never said i've never made any stupid mistakes
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#17
 2008-01-25, 01:36
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GreenPhantomBong 
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Re: why worry about APAP
you're a stupid fucking idiot. people don't do drugs for masochistic reasons. some people actually, gasp, use them because they're fucking fun, and would also like to not do harm to their bodies while using such. why is that hard for you to understand? even a fucking retard could see logic in that.
i see the logic in that. however, as most drugs harm your body when you do them recreationally anyways....even a fucking retard could see logic in that.
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#18
 2008-01-25, 01:39
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
You've already got a lot of the brain damage. Hopefully? Hopefully you'll score more.
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#19
 2008-01-25, 01:43
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Re: why worry about APAP
i see the logic in that. however, as most drugs harm your body when you do them recreationally anyways....even a fucking retard could see logic in that.
Tell me a popular drug which causes liver failure or does anything anywhere near as harmful as huge doses of APAP at a recreational dose.
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#20
 2008-01-25, 01:43
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: why worry about APAP
i see the logic in that. however, as most drugs harm your body when you do them recreationally anyways....even a fucking retard could see logic in that.
a fucking retard would see logic in that because it doesn't make any goddamn sense. pure drugs, used in correct doses at right intervals will not harm your body to any noticable degree, so either wise the fuck up or STFU.
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#21
 2008-01-25, 01:45
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Re: why worry about APAP
*screaming in agony*
Argh, turn down the stupid, its burning my retinas!!!
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#22
 2008-01-25, 01:50
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Originally Posted by Obbe
*screaming in agony*
Argh, turn down the stupid, its burning my retinas!!!
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Heyheyhey! Have a little sympathy. The OPie has the brain damage & you know? You know that it's not nice to make fun (at least not too much) of the handicapped, retarded morons?
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#23
 2008-01-25, 01:59
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Re: why worry about APAP
Heyheyhey! Have a little sympathy. The OPie has the brain damage & you know? You know that it's not nice to make fun (at least not too much) of the handicapped, retarded morons?
Where have you been lately? You give BLTC fucking CHARACTER.
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#24
 2008-01-25, 02:11
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Originally Posted by GreenPhantomBong
with all the crap most of you(and i) have taken, why are you worried about APAP?
i just don't see the concern. sure, its bad for you, but if you are so worried about shit like that, why do drugs in the first place? drugs themselves are not good for you either, generally
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Why worry about APAP?
Why worry about stopping at stop signs or driving the right speed? Driving is already dangerous, right?
Why worry about anything anyways? We are all going to die eventually right?
The reason: some people want to live past thier 20's. If you dont, just go ahead and take massive amounts of APAP, or anything really. Have a great OD.
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#25
 2008-01-25, 02:38
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Re: why worry about APAP
Don't feed the trolls.
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#26
 2008-01-25, 02:46
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GreenPhantomBong 
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Re: why worry about APAP
a fucking retard would see logic in that because it doesn't make any goddamn sense. pure drugs, used in correct doses at right intervals will not harm your body to any noticable degree, so either wise the fuck up or STFU.
oh well
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#27
 2008-01-25, 02:58
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Re: why worry about APAP
why make this thread?
agreed
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#28
 2008-01-25, 02:59
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Re: why worry about APAP
Don't feed the trolls.
this.
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#29
 2008-01-25, 19:59
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Re: why worry about APAP
Its simple harm reduction, you are already taking something that could possibly be dangerous. Why add to the danger by taking large doses of a drug that is not going to have any recreational value when it can be easilly removed?
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#30
 2008-01-26, 00:43
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Re: why worry about APAP
Who in fuck could be bored/stupid enough to get their kicks of trolling an internet sight. If this question is your reality though, I truly feel sorry for you.
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#31
 2008-01-27, 03:17
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Re: why worry about APAP
Bottom line APAP is total fucking useless shit! I have generic lortabs 10/500mgs right now and also have a decent opiate tolerance and after popping a few of them I feel a bit off. Not from the opiate but from the APAP I know.
I have parachuted pure oxy, popped norcos 10/325mgs many a time. The nasty feeling is not present with oxy, much less with the norcos and much worse with the lortabs I have now. I swear I can tell the difference and I am sure it is from that fucking nasty shit!
Fuck tylenol and all the faggots that make it. Ever see that tylenol tv ad talking about how "we", the makers of tylenol care? Fuck them, those dirty mother fuckers!
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#32
 2008-01-27, 03:48
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Bottom line APAP is total fucking useless shit! I have generic lortabs 10/500mgs right now and also have a decent opiate tolerance and after popping a few of them I feel a bit off. Not from the opiate but from the APAP I know.
I have parachuted pure oxy, popped norcos 10/325mgs many a time. The nasty feeling is not present with oxy, much less with the norcos and much worse with the lortabs I have now. I swear I can tell the difference and I am sure it is from that fucking nasty shit!
Fuck tylenol and all the faggots that make it. Ever see that tylenol tv ad talking about how "we", the makers of tylenol care? Fuck them, those dirty mother fuckers!
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Tylenol is a brand name. There is no Tylenol in opiate pills.
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#33
 2008-01-27, 04:01
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
Tylenol is a brand name. There is no Tylenol in opiate pills.
Yes? But I understand that Tylenol really lobbied hard for their product as being 'safe' compared to nasty old ASA? There might be some truth to their claims, but like any deal where you get partisan hustlers involved?
BS takes over & begins a life of its' own. Thus people think APAP is safer for babies & pappies & not just crappy.
As you might notice with all the recent news articles about drug company's BS about antidepressant testing/efficacy. BS rules.
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#34
 2008-01-27, 04:04
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: why worry about APAP
Yes? But I understand that Tylenol really lobbied hard for their product as being 'safe' compared to nasty old ASA? There might be some truth to their claims, but like any deal where you get partisan hustlers involved?
BS takes over & begins a life of its' own. Thus people think APAP is safer for babies & pappies & not just crappy.
As you might notice with all the recent news articles about drug company's BS about antidepressant testing/efficacy. BS rules.
lol y u BS me?
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#35
 2008-01-27, 04:12
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
'Cause youse has got leetle waleeto? Full of pesos. BS you & you become a walking talking ad for the product who's BS you've swallowed.
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#36
 2008-01-27, 04:27
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Re: why worry about APAP
Whatever the shit is made of and whoever makes it does not change that it is total shit. No sales pitch would ever change my mind as I know a spade is always a spade.
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#37
 2008-01-27, 04:35
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Re: why worry about APAP
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'Cause youse has got leetle waleeto? Full of pesos. BS you & you become a walking talking ad for the product who's BS you've swallowed.
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Oddly enough... I understood every bit of that.
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#38
 2008-01-27, 04:35
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Re: why worry about APAP
By the way: APAP is a myth, like Global Warming.
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#39
 2008-01-27, 04:40
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moonmeister 
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Re: why worry about APAP
A myth that got lots of pappies fooled.
Like elections: keep 'em fooled & you can pick their pockets.
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#40
 2008-01-27, 04:43
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: why worry about APAP
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Originally Posted by moonmeister
A myth that got lots of pappies fooled.
Like elections: keep 'em fooled & you can pick their pockets.
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I'd like to pick your pocket, big guy.
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