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Old 2008-01-23, 11:41
PuppetMaster PuppetMaster is offline
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Default Meth tree

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri

apparently, this tree has meth in its leaves.

YES, NATURALLY OCCURRING METH.

I mean, the whole plant seems toxic, but still I find this cool.

And this info seems to be about ten years old.

check dr. Shulgin too:

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/acacia.htm
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Old 2008-01-23, 12:09
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mah compound
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WAY fucking old. Like, seven years old.
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Old 2008-01-23, 12:46
the half unlit the half unlit is offline
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Honestly, who fucking cares? Were not all going to go and try and extract this fucking tree to get a tweek. Many plants have phenethylamines and tryptamines in there alkaloids, usually in very miniscule amounts.
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Old 2008-01-23, 13:13
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
WAY fucking old. Like, seven years old.


yes, yes.....very old.....

never the less i wish to know the concentration of nicotine....and other various potentially hazardous chemicals found in : bark or foliage....

knowing what amount will not kill me or result in toxic symptoms the bark or foliage(unlikely foliage) of this tree can become a novel source of precursors/just fun to try as a tea/ab extracted to crystal then eaten,snorted,smoked.
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Old 2008-01-23, 13:54
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Isn't this the case where the results were never duplicated, and the report authors ignored (Mad) Shulgin's requests for more information?

I'm still of the opinion that the alkaloids "found" were the result of cross-contamination, if not outright forgery.
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Old 2008-01-23, 14:04
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by robinhoody
Isn't this the case where the results were never duplicated, and the report authors ignored (Mad) Shulgin's requests for more information?

I'm still of the opinion that the alkaloids "found" were the result of cross-contamination, if not outright forgery.

I concur, and even if it is true, the actual amount would probably be something like .01% by dry weight.
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Old 2008-01-23, 14:06
SAS25 SAS25 is offline
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Yeah and it also contains DMT. I mean there are tons of plants that contain tryptamines and phenylethalinines (I cant spell) but in miniscule amounts. That is cool that it contains M-amp though, as I didn't know of any plants it could be found in.
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Old 2008-01-23, 14:48
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Originally Posted by SAS25
Yeah and it also contains DMT. I mean there are tons of plants that contain tryptamines and phenylethalinines (I cant spell) but in miniscule amounts. That is cool that it contains M-amp though, as I didn't know of any plants it could be found in.


Yeah I thought M-amp was completely synthed. I had no idea it occured in other organisms. It would be pretty amazing if that was true. Do any other amps occur without human synth?

DMT is the most amazing chemical I've heard of. It appears in so many organisms, and US! I don't feel prepared for DMT yet but it's going to be an amazing experience I'm sure. There's got to be some awesome knowledge "hidden" within DMT.
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Old 2008-01-23, 15:02
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Even if it does contain these things, it is interesting at best. I don't see a way that a plant containing so many things could be reduced down to methamphetamine... I am sure it can be done somehow, but it doesn't make any sense to do so... there are so many easier routes.
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Old 2008-01-23, 20:40
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NJ
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youd have to eat like 2 trees to get high off it.

oh, and by the way, OLD
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Old 2008-01-23, 23:24
the dillinger escape plan the dillinger escape plan is offline
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Default Re: Meth tree

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Originally Posted by Doctor_Ew420
Even if it does contain these things, it is interesting at best. I don't see a way that a plant containing so many things could be reduced down to methamphetamine... I am sure it can be done somehow, but it doesn't make any sense to do so... there are so many easier routes.


Yeah man, assuming that the plant really contains the said alkaloid, the procedure to extract pure methamphetamine from the plant matter would be so complex/exspensive that you might as well have synthed it yourself by the time you are done.
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Old 2008-01-24, 08:29
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mah compound
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youd have to eat like 2 trees to get high off it.


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