Specifically poppy seed tea, which i've read gives you wicked hangovers that come from the thebaine content and the noscapine on the seeds. Is there any way to prevent them other than the obvious of taking less or more? They knock me out for days. Obviously Morphine is known as the God of sleep so I expect to get sleepy but not for so long. I wake up feeling like my entire body is zapped of it's energy and am groggy for hours. Caffeine helps, and I assume stimulants would too but I don't have access to them or benzos. Anything natural I can take before or after like an herb or something?

No stating the obvious like not taking them either. I'm doing 1-2 pounds every 3-7 days. Mostly weekly when I can control myself. My tolerance is down to nothing which also adds to the side-effects and body load.

Fuck seeds, get pods.

Fuck seeds, get pods.

What did I just say? I have enough problems with addiction just from the seeds. Yes you might find that funny but it's true.

I didn't say it was funny did I? I was trying to help you. What do you expect when you ingest something like that? Either deal with it, go to a cleaner source such as pods, or quit bitching. Or you could *GASP* do some research and learn how to pull out the bullshit you don't want. But that would be too hard right? Lemme guess, you want me to write you up a little essay explaining every little detail, how to do it, chems needed, and where to get the chems? Because that seems to be the real point of this thread, and sorry, but fuck no.

Your options are pretty clear. Make a choice and quit bitching.


But really, I'd like to know why you can't just QUIT doing them. If you are so worried about addiction you refuse to do pods, then why do seeds?

Do you have legitimate pain? A real reason to need these drugs? Because if not, well then I say you deal with it. You want to get high, you can deal with the negative aspects of it as well, BUT if you had legitimate pain, I would tell you to switch to pods or kratom (for legal stuff) and fuck the addiction aspect for now until you can get real help with your pain.

Being addicted to poppy seeds is nothing compared to living in constant pain, so fuck the addiction and get some pods.

Unless you are just doing it to get high, in which case I say man the fuck up.

^You're awfully hostile dude. Like I said I was just wondering if there was something I could take after or before so my body chemistry wouldn't be so wonky and I didn't feel like a reanimated zombie. I'm not using seeds for pain i'm using them to get high, there are other reasons for not switching to pods: availability and legality etc. If it was simply about the desperation of getting high for me I would go out to a street corner and try to score some smack instead.

And who said anything about extractions? I wouldn't ask anyone for a chem faq because i'm a retard at chemistry and couldn't follow even a laymans step-by-step instruction guide without probably poisoning myself.

I am hostile. Fuck it.


And pods are easy as hell to get, you just don't know where to look. HINT everyones favorite online auction site.

I know where to get pods man, it's not about that.

No stating the obvious like not taking them either. I'm doing 1-2 pounds every 3-7 days. Mostly weekly when I can control myself. My tolerance is down to nothing which also adds to the side-effects and body load.

Well honestly dude, I don't know what to tell you. I personally never got 'hangovers' whenever I did the seed-tea. But poppy seeds from grown for spice are bred to have higher concentrations of the less desirable alkaloids, and less of the good shit (morphine). Switching to pods, or hell, getting some proper seeds which produce poppies with higher morphine concentration and lower concentrations of the less desirable alkaloids, and then growing them yourself really would help you out in that respect.

Besides that, not taking any actually sounds like a pretty good idea for you. You require 1-2 pounds of seeds to get off? I would not say your tolerance is "down to nothing", then. Getting cleaner material is about all you can do to get rid of the 'side-effects' of the undesirable alkaloids. Not taking opiates all together really is good for you too, if you feel that you are addicted.

Here's what I seriously suggest: Stop taking opiates for awhile, let your tolerance go down further, smoke a shit-ton of weed to help you along, and get some cleaner opiates. I also bet taking some DLPA or l-tyrosine and JoePedo's reagent cocktail would reduce cravings somewhat.

Well honestly dude, I don't know what to tell you. I personally never got 'hangovers' whenever I did the seed-tea. But poppy seeds from grown for spice are bred to have higher concentrations of the less desirable alkaloids, and less of the good shit (morphine). Switching to pods, or hell, getting some proper seeds which produce poppies with higher morphine concentration and lower concentrations of the less desirable alkaloids, and then growing them yourself really would help you out in that respect.

Besides that, not taking actually sounds like a pretty good idea for you. You require 1-2 pounds of seeds to get off? I would not say your tolerance is "down to nothing", then. Getting cleaner material is about all you can do to get rid of the 'side-effects' of the undesirable alkaloids. Not taking opiates all together really is good for you too, if you feel that you are addicted.

Here's what I seriously suggest: Stop taking opiates for awhile, let your tolerance go down further, smoke a shit-ton of weed to help you along, and get some cleaner opiates. I also bet taking some DLPA or l-tyrosine and JoePedo's reagent cocktail would reduce cravings somewhat.


I was doing 6-7 pounds of seeds everyday for several years so down to 1-2 pounds every week feels like a really low dose to myself anyways. I've already tried quitting once. I made it a month and a half. I suppose i'll try to keep it down to once a month usage. Yeah and I know not doing them at all would be better for me but with opiates the answer you get is never the one you want to hear.

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

didnt know anyone actually got high off poppy seeds, i think you SHOULD walk to the corner and get a lil bit of H. much easier than fucking with POUNDS of seeds.

also if you are making tea from seeds, then couldnt you just plant the seeds somewhere? or hell just throw em on dirt, a couple pounds of seeds that have been soaked, gee i dont know SOME might sprout.

PPT is actually a very strong high too me, stronger than most narcotic painkillers.

I was doing 6-7 pounds of seeds everyday for several years so down to 1-2 pounds every week feels like a really low dose to myself anyways. I've already tried quitting once. I made it a month and a half. I suppose i'll try to keep it down to once a month usage.

Well you have successfully gotten it down a lot, thats true.

And yeah, using less often would probably help somewhat too. Try smoking weed whenever you feel like drinking tea. No, it won't be the same, but its something.

Yeah and I know not doing them at all would be better for me but with opiates the answer you get is never the one you want to hear.

Then either stop asking the questions and be content with having problems to complain about and other peoples pity on you, or man the fuck up, and cause some changes in your life.

Like SN suggested, moving on to something cleaner with much lower concentrations of undesirable alkaloids, like pods, would help with your 'hangover'. And I really bet increasing your dopamine production via DLPA/l-tyrosine would decrease your cravings.