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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-22, 00:41
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Injen420 
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Mophine
How much morphine to catch a nod.
I usually do about 30mg of oxycodone to feel good.
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#2
 2008-01-22, 01:21
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silverballs 
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Re: Mophine
How do you intend to administer said mophine? :)
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#3
 2008-01-22, 01:23
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Re: Mophine
Try around 100mgs. orally.
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#4
 2008-01-22, 04:04
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spartan_420 
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Re: Mophine
100 mg is TOO FUCKING MUCH. From what I've been told, try 50 mg intranasally (snorted) and see how it goes.
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#5
 2008-01-22, 11:05
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: Mophine
It depends on how you're going to take it, and what kind of pill it is, etc. There are far too many factors for us to accurately give you a good dose. But with morphine, plugging is always your best bet. Morphine has SHIT for oral bioavailability and rectal bioavailability is much higher than intranasal (If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty positive I do)
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#6
 2008-01-22, 11:29
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Re: Mophine
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Originally Posted by spartan_420
100 mg is TOO FUCKING MUCH. From what I've been told, try 50 mg intranasally (snorted) and see how it goes.
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Morphine has SUCH a bad drip, and the intranasal bioavailability is only 15-20% whereas the oral bioavailibility is around 30%.
Rectal and oral bioavailabilities are about the same.
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#7
 2008-01-22, 11:47
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spartan_420 
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Re: Mophine
Morphine has SUCH a bad drip, and the intranasal bioavailability is only 15-20% whereas the oral bioavailibility is around 30%.
Well la-dee-fuckin'-DA!
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#8
 2008-01-22, 12:05
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thatkidej 
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Re: Mophine
I agree that 100mg orally is a good dose. Try 60 if you don't have an opiate tolerance. I had a small opiate tolerance and still got sick from 60mg my first time. It's not terrible though, just because you feel so great otherwise ha :)
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#9
 2008-01-22, 12:46
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: Mophine
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Originally Posted by spartan_420
100 mg is TOO FUCKING MUCH. From what I've been told, try 50 mg intranasally (snorted) and see how it goes.
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From what you are told? Try it sometime before you make such bold statements as "TOO FUCKING MUCH".
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#10
 2008-01-22, 18:07
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thatkidej 
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Re: Mophine
From what you are told? Try it sometime before you make such bold statements as "TOO FUCKING MUCH".
100mg could make someone sick on their first time, which would definitely make someone say it's too much...
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#11
 2008-01-22, 18:21
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: Mophine
100mg could make someone sick on their first time, which would definitely make someone say it's too much...
If you get sick that means you did enough. Puke it up and feel good.
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#12
 2008-01-23, 19:46
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Injen420 
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Re: Mophine
Yea It was a abg 100.
I took 100mg over the course of a day and night and was feeling good. Taking intranasal and orally. I heard Smoking the pill works pretty good. How much should one of these usually go for iam getting it for about 10$ and roxycodone 30mg goes for about 20$ here so.
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#13
 2008-01-23, 20:36
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Re: Mophine
morphine isnt as good as oxy oral or nasal. Around here it isnt sought after at all. Oxy is what people prefer, and for shooters, they prefer the hydromorphone.
but if someone had a 100mg morphine pill, maybe 15-20 bucks, definatly not 1 dollar per milligram like oxy sometimes goes for or hydromorphone.
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#14
 2008-01-23, 22:56
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: Mophine
What? Rectal bioavailability is MUCH higher then oral... It's somewhere around 45 - 45%... How is that anymore remotely similar to the 15 - 25% of oral (Yes, 25% is the max, not 20 so you're wrong about that too...) And yeah, Morphine is much cheaper than Oxy. An average price around these parts is ~$50 for a 200mg pill. I personally wouldn't pay anything over $15 for a 60mg pill and even that's a high price as far as I'm concerned.
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#15
 2008-01-23, 23:02
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: Mophine
I wouldn't pay more than 5 for a 30mg morphine.
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#16
 2008-01-24, 11:40
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thatkidej 
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Re: Mophine
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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
What? Rectal bioavailability is MUCH higher then oral... It's somewhere around 45 - 45%... How is that anymore remotely similar to the 15 - 25% of oral (Yes, 25% is the max, not 20 so you're wrong about that too...) And yeah, Morphine is much cheaper than Oxy. An average price around these parts is ~$50 for a 200mg pill. I personally wouldn't pay anything over $15 for a 60mg pill and even that's a high price as far as I'm concerned.
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Where'd you read that? [url=http://panthrax.host.sk/bioavailability.html]Panthrax's site says they're the same, but I have read that oral bioavail. is 25%.
As for prices, 30mg MSContins run about 5$ around here.
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#17
 2008-01-24, 13:12
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: Mophine
Am I missing something? You just agreed with me, disagreeing with your previous statement, and then made it seem like I'm wrong and now you're asking for sources on my incorrect claim... Or are you saying that he claims rectal is the same as oral at 25% (Still making your previous oral bioavailability claim wrong...)
Either way, here is one I pulled up from Google in about 5 seconds by typing in morphine rectal bioavailability... http://www.springerlink.com/content/m610545w837pm83j/ And here was one right below it, that I'm having a hard time understand, but I think it says something about 90% bioavailability... I don't know. I didn't really read that one well... Or the other to be honest. I don't care that much, because I know I'm right about the rectal bioavailability being much higher than oral, no matter the percentages. It's fairly common knowledge among anyone who knows anything about opiates that morphine has an incredibly week bioavailability.
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#18
 2008-01-24, 13:20
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Mophine
15mg of oxy has me nodding well, and 30mg of morphine does the same.
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