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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-20, 01:56
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Lamabot 
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Peruvian Torch Powder
What is the typical dose for peruvian torch powder?
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#2
 2008-01-20, 02:05
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Br00klynB0y87 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
30 to 40grams.
But remember - the potency among cactus can vary... also it's best you acquire dried cactus pieces that have been pre-stressed rather than pre-powder material.
.peace.
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#3
 2008-01-20, 02:52
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Lamabot 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
Thank you
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#4
 2008-01-20, 12:21
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
Whoa whoa whoa, that's not a typical dose. A typical dose is normally slated at 14 - 28 grams... I know people who get a nice high at 14 grams. And with no tolerance 28 grams is usually enough to get most anyone really high... 40 grams would be a bit much for someone with no experience. I think that's a dangerous suggestion. Just go to Erowid and check the mescaline containing cactus vault.
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#5
 2008-01-20, 12:39
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
20g if you're new to tripping, but if you are semi experienced, then yea, 30 to 40g.
Good luck eating it though.
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#6
 2008-01-20, 12:41
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
Whoa whoa whoa, that's not a typical dose. A typical dose is normally slated at 14 - 28 grams... I know people who get a nice high at 14 grams. And with no tolerance 28 grams is usually enough to get most anyone really high... 40 grams would be a bit much for someone with no experience. I think that's a dangerous suggestion. Just go to Erowid and check the mescaline containing cactus vault.
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It seems really high to me also, but supposedly totse seems to think that 40g is a decent dose for someones first time.
But then again, totse says that you need to take an ounce of kratom your first time... 10 grams had me laying in bed unable to move!
I just suggest that if the OP gets some peruvian torch, get a few doses more than you wanted, so that you can gauge your doses.
Try 14 grams the first time, and if that didn't do it for you, you should have a good idea of how much more you would want.
*Also, when I had some, I gave a half ounce to one of my buddies, he ate it all and spent the entire night tripping, and he said it was snowing in his bedroom, and he could feel the snowflakes hit his face... have fun!*
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#7
 2008-01-20, 12:43
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
It seems really high to me also, but supposedly totse seems to think that 40g is a decent dose for someones first time.
Where has anyone said that?
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#8
 2008-01-20, 12:49
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
I wish I could quote it but I can't I just remember a few months ago someone telling a kid to eat 30-40 grams for his FIRST TIME!
And I also can't quote the kratom/full ounce for first time thing either... so I completely discredited myself... but I have come to realize that when it comes to drugs that have the potential to turn you into a bumbling idiot , you should not find out proper doses from TOTSE.
Imagine I took a whole ounce of kratom!!! I couldn't MOVE when I was on 10g! almost 3X that probably would have ended me up in the hospital!
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#9
 2008-01-20, 13:54
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
Is kratom worth it? Also how would one go about consuming it?
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#10
 2008-01-20, 14:16
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
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Originally Posted by reject
Is kratom worth it? Also how would one go about consuming it?
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FUCK YES! kratom is so sooooo worth it. Especially since the prices have gone down so much.
It is probably the most recreational herb you can find on legal herb sites.
It is much like oxycodone (to me anyway) with a little less euphoria, and a lot more couch lock.. or bed for me.
I took 8g one time and it was great, I nodded, I had those fantastic nod dreams, I itched that wonderful itch, I have waves of euphoria shooting from my thighs up to my scalp and I was in bliss the entire time.
The second time I took a stronger strain, at 10g and it had me in bed unable to move... I barely could open my eyes, and all I could feel was the wonderful tingle (though at this point I knew I had done too much, and that if I moved I would most likely vomit) No vomit either though. I was fine, and within a few hours, I went from frighteningly stoned to completely sober.
I really like kratom.
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#11
 2008-01-20, 14:22
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Br00klynB0y87 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
mahatmaganja420: By typical dose - most people mean a sufficient amount of material that many consider to provide a solid experience... and 14grams is not going to give any one a solid experience...
In no way would I consider my suggestion careless or dangerous...would you care to elaborate?
I assume the OP fully understands the possibility of having a bad trip (which isn't all that bad, and may be beneficial) which can arise with any psychoactive substance... Aside from the possible bad trip I don't see how my suggestion was dangerous at all...
And yes, I do enjoy dosing 20grams doses sometimes as well, mainly for it's subtle euphoric properties ... but in no way would I consider that to be a solid / full spectrum dose even for a beginner who is looking to have a full spectrum experience.
.peace.
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#12
 2008-01-20, 17:33
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monks3080 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
1. Take cactus powder shit and add to a pan full of water.
2. Boil down and add water for the next 8 hours until finally the water has boiled down to just goopy cactus shit.
3. Now take a shirt or cheese cloth and squeeze the shit out of this goop until all the water comes out.
3a. If you want to get all the shit out run some more water into the goop and strain this into a different cup.
Sidenote: You should have only done this process with around 15 grams because since you aren't going to be throwing up with this process all the mescaline will be absorbed.
4. Drink the cactus tea SLOWLY over the next 30 minutes.
5.!?!?!?!?!?!?
6.Profit
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#13
 2008-01-20, 18:09
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Br00klynB0y87 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
^^^
Aside from the fact that your giving information which no one needed or asked for :)… the method you mentioned will not insure the user to be free from possibly purging… nothing will insure that.
There are things you can do to help the nausea that some encounter, such as using ginger or blessed thistle - BUT nothing will insure with certainty that one won’t become nausea and throw-up. Throwing up is a known reaction when regarding cactus, and many claim that even when/if you throw up that doesn't cancel or weaken the experience...
And again 15grams is the type of dose if you want a experience, absent of the true affect.
.peace.
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#14
 2008-01-20, 18:58
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NEPHROSIS 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
14g for a trip?? WTF
I want a source for that p torch.
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#15
 2008-01-20, 23:59
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Kadafi 
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Re: Peruvian Torch Powder
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Originally Posted by NEPHROSIS
14g for a trip?? WTF
I want a source for that p torch.
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As I've always said, 70 grams powdered then gulped down on an empty stomach yielded mild effects at best in my experience.
STOP MAKING GOD DAMN THREADS ABOUT PERUVIAN TORCH!
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