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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-18, 18:46 |
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 Kratom Tea
We've been running through the internet trying to find the right dose for a particularly strong brew but each site has us putting in different amounts of powdered Bali. What dosage has worked for you guys with high opiate tolerances? Appreciate the help.
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#2
2008-01-18, 18:53 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
I do about 8 grams on a batch of whos purity I am not sure of.
And speaking of kratom, my aunt recently has been diagnosed with a few small cysts in her jaw, and the pain is terrible, and all her doctor is giving her is some hydrocodone 5s, so, I laid out a potentiation formula for her, explained how it works in the body, then told her about kratom, she was very interested, so I hooked her up with all the rundown info on that, and a few sources, and I am pretty sure she is going to give it a shot.
She needs pain relief and something that won't fuck her head up so she can work, she makes some big bucks, so she has to work, and kratom has been awesome for me and work.
Now normally this would be a big deal, getting one of the "older" generation, as she is around 47, to try a drug etc, but no, not really that spectacular, since she has already done mushrooms, MDMA (pure molly lucky bitch) and some good holland weed all when she went on a trip with her oldest daughter, and her kid was like mom, eat this.
Hearing an MDMA experience description from my aunt who I USED to think was a huge prude was fucked up.
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#3
2008-01-18, 19:02 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
Thanks for the help man, about how much water do you boil 8 grams in? Again, the sites we looked at are telling us 1 liter for 50 grams, wouldnt that be far too much for 8 grams? We are making two moderate to strong doses and this is our first time beyond the pitiful sample packs. Should we go ahead with the one liter and just strain it 3 or 4 times?
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#4
2008-01-18, 19:19 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
I would use 2 cups for 14g of bali when I would brew it. I used to just powder it and mix it into a drink and drink the muddy shit. Im ordering some red vine kratom. Prob around a 4-8oz depending on how much money I have next week. Red Vine is supposed to be awesome and the only kratom I would take at 8g dose.
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#5
2008-01-18, 19:21 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
How much water do you boil 8 grams in? The sites we looked at are telling us 1 liter for 50 grams...
Do the maths. 1 litre (1000mls) for 50 grams, therefore 20mls per gram.
20mls X 8 grams = 160mls.
Don't 'boil' it. Let the water boil, dump the kratom in, and let it steep in the water while it cools. I think adding a little lemon juice increases absorption due to the pH.
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#6
2008-01-18, 19:40 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
1.3 grams  |
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#7
2008-01-18, 19:48 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
...MDMA (pure molly lucky bitch)...
i know this is off topic, but is pure MDMA hard to find in most areas?
i live in buttfuck no where, and i can get pure MDMA.
i know that most of you will think im talking out my ass, but whatever.
all my friends take pures just as much as dirty pills.
well not as many of course, because you can easily do 15-20 dirty pills in a night, and with pures, quite alot less.
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#8
2008-01-18, 19:52 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
Ive heard alot of the active constitutes in kratom are not actually soluble in water. Personally, when I've made tea it hasnt been very effecive.
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#9
2008-01-18, 21:36 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
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Originally Posted by Noino
Ive heard alot of the active constitutes in kratom are not actually soluble in water. Personally, when I've made tea it hasnt been very effecive.
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The alkaloids in kratom are miscible in water, ethanol and acetic acid. You are either doing something wrong, or getting bunk kratom. |
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#10
2008-01-18, 22:06 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
i know this is off topic, but is pure MDMA hard to find in most areas?
It is rare but with increacingly dirty pills on the streets popularity and and avaliability of "pure" MDMA are on the rise.
i live in buttfuck no where, and i can get pure MDMA.
My best friend cant get hold of any drugs even weed but with one phone call he can have some MDMA crystal. Its just about knowing the right people.
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#11
2008-01-19, 00:02 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
Is there a limit to the amount of rinse/repeat? I'm sure you can probably overdo it, but would boiling the powder 4-5 times be alright to do, or would we be wasting our time and kratom?
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#12
2008-01-19, 04:18 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
anymore than 2 times is a waste of your time.
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#13
2008-01-19, 07:46 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
I do about 8 grams on a batch of whos purity I am not sure of.
And speaking of kratom, my aunt recently has been diagnosed with a few small cysts in her jaw, and the pain is terrible, and all her doctor is giving her is some hydrocodone 5s, so, I laid out a potentiation formula for her, explained how it works in the body, then told her about kratom, she was very interested, so I hooked her up with all the rundown info on that, and a few sources, and I am pretty sure she is going to give it a shot.
She needs pain relief and something that won't fuck her head up so she can work, she makes some big bucks, so she has to work, and kratom has been awesome for me and work.
Now normally this would be a big deal, getting one of the "older" generation, as she is around 47, to try a drug etc, but no, not really that spectacular, since she has already done mushrooms, MDMA (pure molly lucky bitch) and some good holland weed all when she went on a trip with her oldest daughter, and her kid was like mom, eat this.
Hearing an MDMA experience description from my aunt who I USED to think was a huge prude was fucked up.
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The more I hear about your real life, the more I like you, you may flame everyone, but you have some hilarious shit to say.
Reminds me of the time my mom described when she ate mushrooms on the back of a horse carriage with a bunch of her friends, tearing through the woods (this was 4 months ago or so...) Blew my mind! |
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2008-01-19, 07:50 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
The more I hear about your real life, the more I like you, you may flame everyone, but you have some hilarious shit to say.
Reminds me of the time my mom described when she ate mushrooms on the back of a horse carriage with a bunch of her friends, tearing through the woods (this was 4 months ago or so...) Blew my mind!
Have you seen my mushroom trip report?
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#15
2008-01-19, 07:52 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
Sorry for the double post... but the other day at work I threw 3-4 tea bags in a cup of boiling water to make a super-tea to keep me awake (I hate coffee) I wanted to drink it but I couldn't, it was much stronger than coffee.
I was thinking, since tea in large amounts taste like ass, then maybe kratom has to be drank in smaller doses.
It makes sense that less leaf would make lesser of a brew... I could see this making for a decent tasting hot beverage, like coffee, which you can sit and drink all afternoon. (kratom in low doses creates a caffein like effect, and at large doses (ESPRESSO KRATOM!) creates a sedating effect... something to think about.
Once I get a decent amount of kratom, I will experiment in making a tasty kratom brew (since I know a lot of people have a hard time getting it down) and whether I make it taste worse or not, I will drink it, but if I find something extra tasty, I will post it here for sure!
!!! Also, I HAVE an espresso machine, would this be of use to me!!? I am in the middle of ordering some 15X kratom, which I know can be capsulated, but as I said, I want to make a tasty brew!
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#16
2008-01-19, 07:54 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
If you can't get that shit down you have a real weak stomach because it just taste like gritty tea maybe. Nothing to really gag on.
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#17
2008-01-19, 07:56 |
Doctor_Ew420
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Re: Kratom Tea
H0ppin, I eat the matter whole, I NEVER leave anything behind, I could understand how people could be turned off by that, but I can handle it just fine, and I would never let people I share kratom with throw away the slop!!!
And SN, I haven't seen it, LINK!
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#18
2008-01-19, 08:06 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
I find the easiest way to dose kratom is to weigh it out, split it in half or thirds, and then put that in a small piece of cling wrap, just twist it up and swallow, and it untwists in your stomach. No taste at all, just like taking a few huge ass pills, though I have almost choked myself trying to take too much at once, too lazy to split it up.
and: mushroom trip
http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=9073788&postcount=10
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#19
2008-01-19, 08:13 |
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Re: Kratom Tea
Do the maths. 1 litre (1000mls) for 50 grams, therefore 20mls per gram.
20mls X 8 grams = 160mls.
Don't 'boil' it. Let the water boil, dump the kratom in, and let it steep in the water while it cools. I think adding a little lemon juice increases absorption due to the pH.This works best in my experience. I'll do it twice on the same plant material for like 10 minutes each time. I don't remove the heat completely.
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#20
2008-01-19, 09:55 |
Tehstfu
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Re: Kratom Tea
I also drink all the material. I just weigh it, chunk it in some juice and chug.
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