I like my amphetamines but I've never tried a 'hardcore' stimulant. In a toss up between coke and speed, which would you recommend for me? What's essentially the difference between each high?

Do you mean meth? Because amps are also referred to as speed, as are a number of other stimulants.


And I am so fucking tired of people asking for someone to describe a high. Just go do the fucking drugs. Stop trying to live through other people and go experience life for yourself.

how would we know what to recommend for you when we know nothing about you? you want to know whether speed or blow is better for you? why dont you just read up on both drugs are erowid real quick, and then decide for yourself? our answers are going to be complete guesses, and our knowledge isnt going to be as complete and clear as an erowid page.

and our knowledge isnt going to be as complete and clear as an erowid page.



Speak for yourself. I know quite a bit more than erowid. Actually, as good as erowid is, it's a noob site.

^ Haha, ok... Anyway... I'd recommend doing blow over any amphetamine any day. But it's all up to personal taste. Some people seem to really enjoy stimulants; I personally hate them and the way they make you feel. Some people claim to feel euphoria from things like Meth, I've done it several times and have never felt anything CLOSE to what could be called euphoria (And apparently I live in a state where it's really cheap, available, and pure...) I’d say, if you're a stimulant person, give them all a shot (Not all at once or anything...), and if you're more of a depressant person, try blow. If you don't like that, you won't like the others most likely. And finally, if you're a hallucinogen person, don't try any of them because you most likely will hate them all.

Speak for yourself. I know quite a bit more than erowid. Actually, as good as erowid is, it's a noob site.

arent you a mod now? why are you still such a dick?

He was PROBABLY just taking the piss... On the off chance that he wasn't, well... I'm willing to let it slide. For the most part, he's pretty helpful and knowledgeable about stuff... Even if he does like to give people some shit sometimes.

arent you a mod now? why are you still such a dick?


Because people are still such idiots. I tone it down in my own forum, but I don't have to put up with dumbasses here.


Besides, do you have any idea how many people have actually thanked me for being a dick to them, because it made them get off their lazy ass and LEARN how to learn. Fucking tons. So even though I may offend the majority of you, I really am doing this place a service by spurring users to learn on their own, eliminating useless topics, and enabling more people to have intelligent conversations, instead of just, will dis git me hi? or, haw du me do dis droogz? type of bullshit.

Because people are still such idiots. I tone it down in my own forum, but I don't have to put up with dumbasses here.


Besides, do you have any idea how many people have actually thanked me for being a dick to them, because it made them get off their lazy ass and LEARN how to learn. Fucking tons. So even though I may offend the majority of you, I really am doing this place a service by spurring users to learn on their own, eliminating useless topics, and enabling more people to have intelligent conversations, instead of just, will dis git me hi? or, haw du me do dis droogz? type of bullshit.

OMG OMG THANKS FOR BEING A DICK TO ME! jk i hope you choke on your own vomit and die a horrible death tasting the partially digested food you had for dinner. Anyways to OP. Heres the differences in my opinion, Coke-Pros:Very Euphoric, Not as speedy, Good all around stimulation, also girls love it. Cons:Overpriced, Cut, Dealers are sketchy(mostly). Meth-Decent Euphoria, Nice body feeling, Very talkative and social, Less expensive. Cons: A little too speedy for me, very Long duration, possible amphetamine psychosis.

Could it be that.... Your meth isn't.... that.... pure?

I like stupid noob's attitude, that's exactly what this place needs.

Also regarding erowid, although it does provide useful information, it can't be used as an alternative to real life experience, I mean if you're interested in some drug, just take it and see for yourself, I think it's quite sad that there's pathetic drug-geeks out there who just sit down all day browsing erowid, if you don't wanna take something find a new hobby read up about other stuff.

Thank you. And I'd like to add that my point about erowid is that it is not THE authority on drugs, nor is it all inclusive, NOR is it 100% accurate.

Which leads to my main point, which I always stress, always verify things you read from at least three totally separate sources that are credible, no matter what the original source was, even if it was someone like myself, or JoePedo, though, not saying I compare to that intellectual behemoth of a man.


Your health and freedom are worth the extra ten minutes on google.

Back on point, just because erowid says it, doesn't make it gospel, I've found a few errors myself over the years (hence my claim that i r teh smarter dan erowid)


It IS an awesome site. For noobs. And I don't mean that in a negative way at all. People new to drugs. People with experience are already past the erowid level.


AND, a serious reply to the OP:

words are never enough to describe any drug. period.

/thread

A personal opinion I could relate to was what I was looking for. I don't "go out" and shoot up stuff erowid gives a thumbs up for because erowid's descriptions have always been off from my personal experiences (heaven forbid drugs being subjective substances).

Thank you mahat for understanding the purpose of this thread.

In overall euphoria coke is better, but it doesn't last as long. Speed has less euphoria, but lasts longer.

Now which you want is fucking up to you

Because people are still such idiots. I tone it down in my own forum, but I don't have to put up with dumbasses here.

yes, yes you do...

if you think, you will change this retardation....for gods sake....just cover the pot and let it simmer......

you lunatic.....

I'll never understand the fascination people have with "uppers", when life is so fast paced as it is why speed up when you can slow down :)

To get shit done man, people are busy motherfuckers with a lot of shit to do, and little time to do it in, and sometimes ya don't get to sleep, because there is just too much shit to do.

Also, I suffer from severe lack of motivation. Like, I work hard, I bust my ass, but, the thing is, I don't want to. I just don't have the energy, I hurt way too fucking much to enjoy a job like I used to, so I avoid doing pretty much anything physical, even getting up to get something across the room, because I just hurt and don't have the energy.

So I eat ephedrine pills, and amps when I can get em, and chug down rockstar like water, because without that boost I'm a fucking lump.

The speed helps take my mind off the pain, and totally makes me forget about muscle fatigue, so in a way it helps just as well as opiates, if not better because I can actually get shit done.

to keep up with life itself.......

even mother nature will be like....."Sloooow Doooown"

and you will be like "fuck you"

If you've already done amphetamine sulphates, then that's much more of a stimulant than coke will ever be, really, if it's decent. Sure, coke's an upper and it can get you racing around and all talkative, but generally nah, i'd say it's quite easy to just chill/drink on coke - the upper effects are more to confidence and sociability, in some ways.

Speed can make people just talk like a machine-gun, twitch and go quite nuts, dancing hard for hours and things... don't expect that from coke, it's not the same really.

Also sure, drugs are best experienced, not read about.... but doesn't totally invalidate research and reading, imo! Think of the impact "The Doors of Perception" had.... if Huxley had just written "take mescaline and see for yourself" I doubt it'd have had anywhere near the impact on society or "movements" in later times. Humm, never underestimate the power of communication.. :p

That said OP, you should suck-it-an-see tbh, get some coke and try it, if you want to..

To answer the sounds of science, no it's no possible. I live in Arizona where $30 bucks will buy you more then a gram of some shit that looks like quartz because it's so pure and crystal-esque. Apparently $30 is an insanely good deal... It's just a common price here, not even that great of a price. I bet if I were actually in the scene that I could get it cheaper. I just don't get euphoria from amphetamines; they are just shitty to me. All it is, is pure unfocused energy, they suck. I've gotten some minor euphoria from coke and some GREAT euphoria from MDMA (though not e pills in general, because in Arizona they mostly suck balls. There were some blue bulls that came through from Texas a while back that were pretty decent... And some white lines... Though, still nothing to rave about. HA, get it... anyway...), and that's really about it. I'm just not a stimulant person; they don't float my boat so to speak. For the longest time I was a hallucinogens person, then I was heavily a downer person, now I'm sort of done with drugs for the most part. I've been addicted to basically everything there is.
I've done more or less every Opiate/Opioid, Benzo, stimulant, hallucinogen, legal high (except many RCs as they are just to shifty to be dealt with for the most part), etc. I've done it all. I've drank a 30 pack a day for months straight, done an 8 ball a day for months straight, done 160 mg of Oxy a day for months straight (just to feel normal sadly), smoked an ounce of chronic every 2 - 3 days for months straight, taken 8 tabs of e a day for months straight... The list goes on, I've seriously done it all. I've even done ridiculous combos, I vaguely recall (mostly from what other people tell me...) one night in which over the course of 6 hours I consumed: 8 Guinness tall cans, 3 Vicodin 5s, 2 Percocet 5s, 2 Valium 10s, 4 lines of coke (the best I've had in my life, I'm talking whole face numbness), 2 hits of acid, 7 blunts of chronic, and I think some other stuff, but anything past that can't be verified. I've conquered drugs, so now I just drink a couple beers every so often, smoke a couple hits once every few days or so, and take the pain medications that I'm prescribed every month. (I also get prescribed Benzos for anxiety problems but nearly NEVER take them. However, usually only if I run out of pain meds and can't get them filled soon enough.) So to sum up my point, no, it isn't possible that it wasn't that pure. If anything it was purer then half the shit most the people on this site consume. Not trying to e-penis size or anything, but... 13 inches. Ha, just kidding... But seriously... 13 inches :D No, but that's not the point of the thread anyway, and the OP already thanked me for my input, so I’m glad my time here is appreciated.

Paragraphs motherfucker! Use em!

lol longest rant

Two paragraphs is not that long of a "rant" if you could call it that, and you see where there is a break in-between the two paragraphs? Yeah, that's where one ends and the next begins. I'll take it easy on you, I'm assuming English is your second language since you can't spot a paragraph when you see one and have problems with spelling simple words like, them...

BACK ON TOPIC:

It all depends on what you want to do. If you are going to a party with 50 people, then yeah, blow and alcohol would be great.

If you are just hanging out at your house with a few friends, then I would have to say a few drinks and a pizzo going around all night would be more fun than coke. I always challenge people to see who can blow the biggest cloud. Then you can get together after smoking .5 or so and clean the house, paint the walls, and scrub the toilet.

I would say the rush from smoking crystal is way better than snorting coke. But, I still like coke because I don't get all edgy around people like when I am on meth. I also just love snorting fatty lines inbetween shots of Hennessey Privaledge. Feel like a rich man.

Coke is meant to be done in a social setting. Crystal; I would rather have a 8ball to myself and lock myself in my room for 5 days and not talk to anyone. Well, depends if I have an incredible porn stash, and a shitload of lube or not :).

To answer the sounds of science, no it's no possible. I live in Arizona where $30 bucks will buy you more then a gram of some shit that looks like quartz because it's so pure and crystal-esque.

Apparently $30 is an insanely good deal... It's just a common price here, not even that great of a price. I bet if I were actually in the scene that I could get it cheaper. I just don't get euphoria from amphetamines; they are just shitty to me. All it is, is pure unfocused energy, they suck. I've gotten some minor euphoria from coke and some GREAT euphoria from MDMA and some white lines... Though, still nothing to rave about. HA, get it... anyway...), and that's really about it.

I'm just not a stimulant person; they don't float my boat so to speak. For the longest time I was a hallucinogens person, then I was heavily a downer person, now I'm sort of done with drugs for the most part. I've been addicted to basically everything there is.
I've done more or less every Opiate/Opioid, Benzo, stimulant, hallucinogen, legal high (except many RCs as they are just to shifty to be dealt with for the most part), etc. I've done it all.

I've drank a 30 pack a day for months straight, done an 8 ball a day for months straight, done 160 mg of Oxy a day for months straight (just to feel normal sadly), smoked an ounce of chronic every 2 - 3 days for months straight, taken 8 tabs of e a day for months straight... The list goes on, I've seriously done it all. I've even done ridiculous combos.

I vaguely recall (mostly from what other people tell me...) one night in which over the course of 6 hours I consumed: 8 Guinness tall cans, 3 Vicodin 5s, 2 Percocet 5s, 2 Valium 10s, 4 lines of coke (the best I've had in my life, I'm talking whole face numbness), 2 hits of acid, 7 blunts of chronic, and I think some other stuff, but anything past that can't be verified.

I've conquered drugs, so now I just drink a couple beers every so often, smoke a couple hits once every few days or so, and take the pain medications that I'm prescribed every month. (I also get prescribed Benzos for anxiety problems but nearly NEVER take them. However, usually only if I run out of pain meds and can't get them filled soon enough.)

So to sum up my point, no, it isn't possible that it wasn't that pure. If anything it was purer then half the shit most the people on this site consume. Not trying to e-penis size or anything, but... 13 inches. Ha, just kidding... But seriously... 13 inches :D No, but that's not the point of the thread anyway, and the OP already thanked me for my input, so I’m glad my time here is appreciated.

Ummm... fixed :)

Because people are still such idiots. I tone it down in my own forum, but I don't have to put up with dumbasses here.


Besides, do you have any idea how many people have actually thanked me for being a dick to them, because it made them get off their lazy ass and LEARN how to learn. Fucking tons. So even though I may offend the majority of you, I really am doing this place a service by spurring users to learn on their own, eliminating useless topics, and enabling more people to have intelligent conversations, instead of just, will dis git me hi? or, haw du me do dis droogz? type of bullshit.

So are you saying ur the totse messiah? sniff sniff

Thanks for the input; seriously, word of mouth (or net) is my favorite manner of getting info. People ask questions in BLTC 'cause you kids know your drugs.

/compliment

People ask questions in BLTC 'cause you kids know your drugs.


wrongz0rz

To answer the sounds of science, no it's no possible. I live in Arizona where $30 bucks will buy you more then a gram of some shit that looks like quartz because it's so pure and crystal-esque.

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Not trying to e-penis size or anything, but... 13 inches. Ha, just kidding... But seriously... 13 inches :D No, but that's not the point of the thread anyway, and the OP already thanked me for my input, so I’m glad my time here is appreciated.

Everything that I read in that post reminded me in a frighteningly uncanny way of a drummer I used to play with, in a previous life...

Man, he was fucking crazy.
Later, I learned that just about every drummer has something fundamentally wrong with him. ;)

Anyway, back on topic...

I never liked tina or coke very much, but I love Dexedrine (d-amp), man I could eat those little purple puppies for lifetimes and still not get enough... amps are amazing... I have had the Great God Speed sizzling in my bloodstream for almost 2 days now, so I am just getting into this one.

The great thing about speed is that it makes you superhuman. Hell, I won't even have to sleep for another couple days, and you have NO IDEA how much shit I will get done by then, plus, any mundane task can easily become a temporal labyrinth where you lose hours or the most rewarding and entertaining thing in the world... it really depends on how many hours it has been since you last closed your eyes.

I usually like to take it with 5-HTP and a little bud to take the "soulless edge" off. Man, I love speed.

Keed spills... I mean, spilled keys... errr... well... just take the fucking Dexies. :-)

I JUST made a topic about this on Bluelight (FYI, I usually post the more trivial stuff around there; I use Totse for more serious things now). Everyone on there told me that, while coke is generally more liked, meth and d-amp tends to release more dopamine.

Which totally makes no sense....