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| Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum. |
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#1
 2008-01-16, 21:49
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sorryifarted 
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ball mill media
Would 6mm (approx 1/4") copper BBs work as media for my ball mill? I know large ball bearings are best, and i have enough for one barrel. However, the place where i got them closed down, and i need to fill the second barrel of my mill with media. Its also exceptionally hard to find large bearings for cheap where i live. So would the 1/4" ones work, and if not, what is a good cheap alternative?
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#2
 2008-01-16, 21:55
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nuclearrabbit 
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Re: ball mill media
Not heavy enough. Can you get shot or bullets?
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#3
 2008-01-17, 07:51
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Re: ball mill media
yeah copper is really no good your best bet is lead shot there are multiple sources the best ones being in gun shops look for 54cal. lead shot also try fishing stores they sell them as split shot .. look for some larger ones if not they should have round sinkers with copper things to tie to i usally just cut them of melt them out or what have you and then file down :) hope that helps :)
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#4
 2008-01-17, 21:49
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Re: ball mill media
You can 000 buck in huge bags for like $30, thats .35'' lead balls. You can get .54'' for muzzle loaders for a bit more.
Try midwayusa.com.
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#5
 2008-01-17, 21:52
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Re: ball mill media
I believe you can use large marbles, but sometimes they leave a bit of residue.
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#6
 2008-01-18, 00:45
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Re: ball mill media
Yea, I live in Canada, and ammunition laws are strict here. i will try a store on the weekend, I think they have lead shot but im not sure. you say Marbles? Would glass marbles work, even with residue? I'm not milling shit like magnesium, mostly KNO3 and Charcoal.
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#7
 2008-01-18, 05:07
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Re: ball mill media
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Originally Posted by The_Shoal
I believe you can use large marbles, but sometimes they leave a bit of residue.
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Ummmm no .. i will not explain just simple don't
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#8
 2008-01-18, 05:09
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Re: ball mill media
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Originally Posted by sorryifarted
Yea, I live in Canada, and ammunition laws are strict here. i will try a store on the weekend, I think they have lead shot but im not sure. you say Marbles? Would glass marbles work, even with residue? I'm not milling shit like magnesium, mostly KNO3 and Charcoal.
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were in canada are you ? im in edmonton and trust me it is not illegal because your not buying actualy live rounds your just buying lead musket balls there is not actual explosive compund to it ...
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#9
 2008-01-18, 16:31
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Re: ball mill media
I use steel slingshot ammo for non-ignitable components (aluminum). About 5/8" diameter, yours in boxes of 50 for not much from your local Wal Mart.
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#10
 2008-01-18, 21:15
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The Death Monkey 
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Re: ball mill media
Ummmm no .. i will not explain just simple don't
Thanks, thats very useful of you.
WHY the fuck can't you use glass marbles?
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#11
 2008-01-18, 21:19
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Re: ball mill media
If you're mixing something like black powder -- which can be set off by a spark -- you need to use non-sparking lead media. You can get lead shot in a good hunting store. :p
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#12
 2008-01-18, 21:25
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The Death Monkey 
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Re: ball mill media
I've never in my life seen a glass marble spark.
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#13
 2008-01-18, 21:38
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I've never in my life seen a glass marble spark.
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Obviously you've never experienced the famous sparking glass marble tournaments in the southern U.S. ;-p
Seriously, I'm pretty sure that glass is too frangible to use in a ball mill. The continued impact will probably reduce them to a shadow of their former selves.
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#14
 2008-01-18, 21:59
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nuclearrabbit 
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Re: ball mill media
Also glass dust creates dangerous friction which can set off flash powder.
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#15
 2008-01-18, 22:02
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i see, thanks for all the input, as I said, ill go to the store tomorrow. warweed, im from ottawa, and its a goddamn village cant get anything here. ill go to canadian tire or somethin, maybe they have some shit.
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#16
 2008-01-19, 05:44
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Re: ball mill media
Obviously you've never experienced the famous sparking glass marble tournaments in the southern U.S. ;-p
Seriously, I'm pretty sure that glass is too frangible to use in a ball mill. The continued impact will probably reduce them to a shadow of their former selves.
People typically use lead, isn't glass stronger than lead?
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#17
 2008-01-19, 18:11
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Re: ball mill media
People typically use lead, isn't glass stronger than lead?
But glass is not malleable so, thus it would break/chip.
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#18
 2008-01-20, 00:19
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Re: ball mill media
Obviously you've never experienced the famous sparking glass marble tournaments in the southern U.S. ;-p
Seriously, I'm pretty sure that glass is too frangible to use in a ball mill. The continued impact will probably reduce them to a shadow of their former selves.
On the flip side, letting the marbles grind themselves into dust is a good way to generate top class itching powder.
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#19
 2008-01-20, 01:29
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I have one singe glass marble ~3/4'' in my ball mill and it hasn't been scratched by the thirty 1/2'' lead musket balls that are in there too...it looks a bit beaten up but there are definitely no chips or anything taken off it.
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#20
 2008-01-20, 16:43
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Re: ball mill media
Grind up some glass marbles and hook up a tank of it to a respirator. You will get superhuman powers.
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#21
 2008-01-20, 21:31
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Re: ball mill media
You can buy blocks of lead very cheaply at diving shops or junk yards. It's easy enough to cast if you can find a spherical mold. Any ideas?
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#22
 2008-01-21, 02:58
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Re: ball mill media
Bullet moulds are cheap and relatively easy to find at Cabelas, etc. However, lead balls and shot tend to be located right next to them on the shelf... Why not cut out the middleman?
If you live in an area where firearm related goodies like this are outlawed, start thinking large ball bearings, slingshot ammo, balls from amusement machines (pinball, pachinko...), and so forth. If all else fails, order from overseas via the internet.
I can't imagine customs in any country would be able to figure out any reason why you couldn't order a box full of inert steel balls.
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#23
 2008-01-21, 23:09
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Re: ball mill media
yea i suppose. but theoretically, if i dont mind chipping and such, glass marbles should work?
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#24
 2008-01-22, 07:27
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The Death Monkey 
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Re: ball mill media
I was thinking of flint chunks and steel BB's in my ball mill. Is this safe? I was going to use it for flash powder.
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#25
 2008-01-22, 20:14
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Re: ball mill media
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I was thinking of flint chunks and steel BB's in my ball mill. Is this safe? I was going to use it for flash powder.
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DUH!?!?
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#26
 2008-01-23, 07:50
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The Death Monkey 
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Re: ball mill media
DUH!?!?
Is that a yes? I'll, assume so, Thanks for the confirmation! I've been wanting to make flash powder for a while now.
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#27
 2008-01-23, 08:03
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Re: ball mill media
yes it should work quite well flint
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#28
 2008-01-24, 09:06
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Re: ball mill media
I've heard of using lead from tire balancing weights. Cheap as free.
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#29
 2008-01-24, 23:54
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Re: ball mill media
how big should the balls be anyway? bigger the better? smaller the better? a variety of small and big is best?
also how much should you fill your canister up? does it even matter?
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#30
 2008-01-25, 00:42
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The Death Monkey 
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Re: ball mill media
I've heard half-full works well.
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#31
 2008-01-25, 06:23
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asilentbob 
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Re: ball mill media
All it takes to cast lead milling media is a propane stove, a soup can, pliers or fireplace tongs to grip the hot can, lead, a plank of wood that you can drill tons of about 3/4" x 3/4" holes in, and the lead itself. Oh and the propane. Maybe matches.
I seem to recall someones mill blowing up when they used marbles... YMMV... If you have the means to make or get proper media do so.
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#32
 2008-01-27, 16:37
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Re: ball mill media
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Grind up some glass marbles and hook up a tank of it to a respirator. You will get superhuman powers.
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That is shortly after your lungs fill with blood.
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#33
 2008-01-28, 22:18
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Re: ball mill media
That is shortly after your lungs fill with blood.
That's only a sign you've done it right.
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