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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-16, 15:58
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happyonehitter 
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Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
By that, I mean a crash like with cut coke or pills. My friend is rolling like fuck (200mgs) cos he's finished his exams, and it's not even 4pm yet. So is he gonna be feeling like shit by about 10pm, or do the effects just gradually wear off? Should I give him some 5-htp in a while? And should he be drinking booze?
Sorry for any stupid questions, it's just cos I'm not experienced with E.
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#2
 2008-01-16, 18:24
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
Well, yes, it does have a come down; but it's not usually as bad as pills depending on the purity. Where I come from, pills are bulked out with speed, and we all know how bad speed can hit you when you crash... mdma is pretty easy on the depression.
Still, he's pretty dumb for doing it so early.. that is, unless he's got a shit load of it. I find that if I keep dosing on mdma I can retain that feeling of ecstasy; still, he'll be coming down by 9 at the latest anyway... bit of a waste if you ask me. You better have some pot for the come down, though, as it makes it easier.
Drinking alcohol is fine in my opinion. Just don't over do it. Some people say it can dehydrate you, but, generally, I get tired of drinking as the night goes on and often find myself switching over to glasses of water. Just do what feels comfortable and don't do anything too extreme... like shots of absinthe, for example.
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#3
 2008-01-16, 18:27
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Lotek 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
5HTP:
preload, take with, and take near the end and after.
>trip
<comedown
>afterglow
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#4
 2008-01-16, 18:31
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trippy 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
while on the subject... is there any way to speed up my seratonin regeneration. i ate like a gram of molly this weekend and i was wondering how long its gonna take to recover enough seratonin to actually roll again.
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#5
 2008-01-16, 18:36
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Lotek 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
5-htp
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#6
 2008-01-16, 18:47
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happyonehitter 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
Thanks for the help!
Still, he's pretty dumb for doing it so early.
Yep.
That is, unless he's got a shit load of it.
He doesn't, but he knows I've got another 2.8g.
I'm the one who gave it to him...I pre-capped it to 100mgs each and gave him 2, warning him to only take one. So he goes and takes both. Brilliant...
10 minutes later, he's fucked out of his face. I've never had molly before, but this guy is very experienced with both molly and pills, and he said it was the best stuff he's ever taken. So I'm really looking forward to dropping, after my exams are over (a reasonable dose, of course).
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#7
 2008-01-16, 21:53
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jator 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
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Originally Posted by trippy
while on the subject... is there any way to speed up my seratonin regeneration. i ate like a gram of molly this weekend and i was wondering how long its gonna take to recover enough seratonin to actually roll again.
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You could probably roll again the following weekend but I wouldnt make a habit of doing it every weekend.
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#8
 2008-01-16, 21:58
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Drug-Demon 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
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Originally Posted by trippy
while on the subject... is there any way to speed up my seratonin regeneration. i ate like a gram of molly this weekend and i was wondering how long its gonna take to recover enough seratonin to actually roll again.
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You should lay off the molly for a little while. If you use MDMA too much you WILL turn into an E-tard and you definitely don't want to turn into one of those people.
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#9
 2008-01-17, 00:31
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the604 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
You should lay off the molly for a little while. If you use MDMA too much you WILL turn into an E-tard and you definitely don't want to turn into one of those people.
The response in quotations holds absolutely no merit.
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#10
 2008-01-17, 00:35
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Pooter 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
i ate like a gram of molly this weekend
Either your dead, or you wasted like $100 worth of MDMA.
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#11
 2008-01-17, 00:46
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Drug-Demon 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
The response in quotations holds absolutely no merit.
Your a fucking dumb ass if you don't think MDMA can fuck up your head (your probably already an E-tard)lol.
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#12
 2008-01-17, 00:53
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
Either your dead, or you wasted like $100 worth of MDMA.
And why is that?
Probably because it's cheaper, but here in Europe a gram of MDMA during the weekend is really quite the norm, if you're a raver chances are you won't really start buzzing before you drop at least a half g.
At least that's how it is for me, back in the day I used to split a half a gram and buzz the whole night, but now there's no way I'll do less than half a g., otherwise I'll end up coming down while I'm still in the club.
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#13
 2008-01-17, 01:03
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Pooter 
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
And why is that?
Probably because it's cheaper, but here in Europe a gram of MDMA during the weekend is really quite the norm, if you're a raver chances are you won't really start buzzing before you drop at least a half g.
At least that's how it is for me, back in the day I used to split a half a gram and buzz the whole night, but now there's no way I'll do less than half a g., otherwise I'll end up coming down while I'm still in the club.
Well, the typical dose of MDMA is ~100mg(for me this is the perfect dose, and easiest to weigh out) uncut MDMA. So 1g is about 10x the normal dose. I'm thinking that 1g doses sounds like it would only be possible(confortably) with Methyl-J.
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#14
 2008-01-17, 01:07
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
And why is that?
Probably because it's cheaper, but here in Europe a gram of MDMA during the weekend is really quite the norm, if you're a raver chances are you won't really start buzzing before you drop at least a half g.
At least that's how it is for me, back in the day I used to split a half a gram and buzz the whole night, but now there's no way I'll do less than half a g., otherwise I'll end up coming down while I'm still in the club.
You... you're joking right? I live in the UK and a if you're hardly 'buzzing' off .5g then that's some pretty shitty mandy...
Generally speaking, you get 8 bombs to a g. So that's 4 for a .5g. That's plenty, and anyone who needs to take 8 bombs or more either has a huge tolerance or is in danger of fucking their brain...
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#15
 2008-01-17, 13:23
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
You... you're joking right? I live in the UK and a if you're hardly 'buzzing' off .5g then that's some pretty shitty mandy...
Generally speaking, you get 8 bombs to a g. So that's 4 for a .5g. That's plenty, and anyone who needs to take 8 bombs or more either has a huge tolerance or is in danger of fucking their brain...
Nah man I get pure and good quality, it's just that me and my flatmates used to go raving 2/3 times a week on average and we kept that regime for about two years.
Monday in Herbal for breakbeat, wednesdays also in Herbal for Hip Hop and DnB and then Fridays in Fabric for DnB.
Oh yeah and sometimes add the occasional big psytrance party on a saturday.
When that kind of tolerance hits you you can do doses that can be lethal for most people, at the beginning I was seeing some older ravers take ungodly amounts of mdma and I never thought I would end up the same, but I did.
When i started doing E, I used to do pills in quarters and one and a half pill would last me the whole night, but that was ovr six years ago, now after years and years of abusing it(yes I said the magic word), if I take less than extreme doses I hardly feel a thing and trust me quality has nothing to do with it.
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#16
 2008-01-17, 15:53
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
Nah man I get pure and good quality, it's just that me and my flatmates used to go raving 2/3 times a week on average and we kept that regime for about two years.
Monday in Herbal for breakbeat, wednesdays also in Herbal for Hip Hop and DnB and then Fridays in Fabric for DnB.
Oh yeah and sometimes add the occasional big psytrance party on a saturday.
When that kind of tolerance hits you you can do doses that can be lethal for most people, at the beginning I was seeing some older ravers take ungodly amounts of mdma and I never thought I would end up the same, but I did.
When i started doing E, I used to do pills in quarters and one and a half pill would last me the whole night, but that was ovr six years ago, now after years and years of abusing it(yes I said the magic word), if I take less than extreme doses I hardly feel a thing and trust me quality has nothing to do with it.
Fair play. Still, I hope you're not still raving three times a week: you only get one brain :).
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#17
 2008-01-17, 16:31
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Re: Does pure molly have a 'crash'?
Fair play. Still, I hope you're not still raving three times a week: you only get one brain :).
Nah mate I calmed down, I hardly go out anymore, the most I do now is a few cheeky pints down at Wheterspoons.
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