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 #1 
Old 2008-01-14, 00:57
Senior Pepe Senior Pepe is offline
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Default duration of ice

how long do the effects last? does it depend on how much you do?
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Old 2008-01-14, 01:07
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Of course it matters how much you do, the more you smoke the longer your tweakin. But if you like having your teeth i wouldnt make a habit of it ya dig
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Old 2008-01-14, 01:15
r007 ph07oN r007 ph07oN is offline
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erowid.org>plants and drugs>meth...answered
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Old 2008-01-14, 02:49
mahatmaganja420 mahatmaganja420 is offline
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Well wait... Are you talking about Methamphetamine or 4-methylaminorex? Because that makes a difference. Either way you should be able to find all the information you need on erowid.org And of course if matters how much you take, isn't that the case with every drug?
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Old 2008-01-14, 03:38
AdrenalineJunkie420 AdrenalineJunkie420 is offline
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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
Well wait... Are you talking about Methamphetamine or 4-methylaminorex? Because that makes a difference. Either way you should be able to find all the information you need on erowid.org And of course if matters how much you take, isn't that the case with every drug?


If he doesn;t know how long meth lasts, I doubt he even knows what you're talking about. it could be cane sugar for alls hes knows
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Old 2008-01-14, 03:41
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mah compound
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Cane sugar would caramelize, and then out right decompose. T'would be some nasty shit, indeed.
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Old 2008-01-14, 03:43
mahatmaganja420 mahatmaganja420 is offline
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If he doesn;t know how long meth lasts, I doubt he even knows what you're talking about. it could be cane sugar for alls hes knows

Oh come on, that's a little harsh... And besides, if you were going to take something he said as a sign of how little he knows, why not use, "does it depend on how much you do?" To me that shows much greater ignorance then the other question.
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Old 2008-01-16, 08:28
Insomniac Tiki Insomniac Tiki is offline
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If he doesn;t know how long meth lasts, I doubt he even knows what you're talking about. it could be cane sugar for alls hes knows

sugars burns in the pipe... leaves black, burnt sugar.
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Old 2008-01-16, 13:14
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i've heard stories of people staying awake for 45 days +. Most of em are addict's anyway, and it'll fuck you up. Your better off with green.
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Old 2008-01-16, 14:49
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mah compound
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfy_9005
i've heard stories of people staying awake for 45 days +. Most of em are addict's anyway, and it'll fuck you up. Your better off
with green.


methamphetamine or crystal mephamphetamine?

wtf kind of question is that? IT IS THE SAME FUCKING THING.
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Old 2008-01-16, 15:47
xxdarksidexx xxdarksidexx is offline
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He probably meant shitty crank goo or pure meth crystals.
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Old 2008-01-17, 06:01
mahatmaganja420 mahatmaganja420 is offline
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You CAN NOT stay awake for 45+ days with no sleep whatsoever, even with a stimulant as powerful as meth. You would die. That is not debatable; it's a proven medical fact.
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Old 2008-01-17, 06:38
FuckedintheHead FuckedintheHead is offline
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*Takes a fat diahreah all over thread.*
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Old 2008-01-17, 06:53
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Originally Posted by mahatmaganja420
You CAN NOT stay awake for 45+ days with no sleep whatsoever, even with a stimulant as powerful as meth. You would die. That is not debatable; it's a proven medical fact.


Eh, some insomniacs stay awake forever.
I beleive they've simplyt gotten to the point where all they need is a few hours of inaction and they're right to go. :)
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Old 2008-01-17, 08:57
mahatmaganja420 mahatmaganja420 is offline
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No, that's not true at all. If you can show me some proof of your supposed claim, and I don't think you'll be able to, I'll retract the comment. But humans begin to suffer health problems after about 11 days of staying awake. And I believe rats die after are a month of staying awake. You see, if the case you may be speaking of, that few hours of "inaction" is more or less their sleep. The body just changes itself to get used to how they are trying to live and work around it. For instance, if you start trying to get only a couple hours of sleep a night (which isn't long enough to normally go into REM sleep, which your body needs to live) your body will start going into REM sleep almost as soon as you go to bed. This way, you still get the REM sleep you need to stay alive/sane. Like here is a little something I found in a couple seconds of searching Google "After three days without sleep, hallucinations can kick in. The longest scientifically documented case of sleep deprivation was the provided by an American, Randy Gardner, in 1964, who, in an attempt to set a world record, stayed awake for 11 days. Four days in, he had a hallucination in which a street sign turned into a person, an episode quickly followed by a delusion where he though he was a famous black footballer. The hallucinations are due to what sleep scientists call dream intrusion. "If you deprive yourself of sleep, your body still needs to dream," says Stanley. "But because the dream is playing while you're still awake, you have two realities going on, so the hallucinations can seem very real." " So... yeah...
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Old 2008-01-17, 10:16
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mah compound
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Too lazy to look it up, and source it, but I do know this man is right. Indefinite insomnia is not possible.
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Old 2008-01-20, 08:11
Senior Pepe Senior Pepe is offline
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im talking about crystal. i just smoked two bowls and railed one line. ive been up for about 7 hours now, still feeling good.
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Old 2008-01-20, 08:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfy_9005
i've heard stories of people staying awake for 45 days +. Most of em are addict's anyway, and it'll fuck you up. Your better off
with green.


methamphetamine or crystal mephamphetamine?

What a fucking retard.
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Old 2008-01-20, 08:16
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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Oh come on, that's a little harsh... And besides, if you were going to take something he said as a sign of how little he knows, why not use, "does it depend on how much you do?" To me that shows much greater ignorance then the other question.

What?
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Old 2008-01-20, 11:16
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stayed awake for 11 days.

I wonder what the longest someone has stayed awake on a meth binge? I've heard of people staying awake for 2+ weeks, but I'm not sure.
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Old 2008-01-20, 11:44
mahatmaganja420 mahatmaganja420 is offline
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Wonkiebubble, what don't you understand?
DiamondX, I've heard claims like that as well. But who can tell for sure... People on meth still start to have negative effects after 3 days, sometimes more so... Shadow people in the corner of their vision and stuff...
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Old 2008-01-20, 14:10
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Meth/Ice are among the most vile substances on the face of the earth. stims are disgusting.
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Old 2008-01-20, 14:54
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I wonder what the longest someone has stayed awake on a meth binge? I've heard of people staying awake for 2+ weeks, but I'm not sure.

I have a friend that stayed up for 14 days on a meth binge, no joke.
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Old 2008-01-20, 14:55
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Originally Posted by eXo5
Meth/Ice are among the most vile substances on the face of the earth. stims are disgusting.


your mothers vagina is also disgusting.

GTFO
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Old 2008-01-20, 15:14
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What a fucking retard.

lol, I was simply saying something i had heard, not a direct quote from me.

edit from wiki:People born with the rare genetic disorder Morvan’s fibrillary chorea or Morvan's syndrome can go without sleep for several months at a time. Michel Jouvet and his colleagues in Lyon, France, studied a 27-year-old man and found he had virtually no sleep over a period of several months. During that time he did not feel sleepy or tired and did not show any disorders of mood, memory, or anxiety. Nevertheless, nearly every night between 9:00 and 11:00 p.m., he experienced a 20 to 60-minute period of auditory, visual, olfactory, and somesthetic (sense of touch) hallucinations, as well as pain and vasoconstriction in his fingers and toes.[20] In recent investigations, Morvan's syndrome has been attributed to serum antibodies directed against specific potassium ion (K+) channels in cell and nerve membranes.

proof people can stay awake for longer than 11days/14days or whatever we gonna set the record at now
 
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