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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-13, 18:50
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HippieFlipping 
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dilaudid 4mg
Trying to get some information on hydromorphone 4mg pills are they better to snort or eat? What opiates does it compare to, would it be anywhere near snorting a roxi 30 or are they weaker? How much do they normally go for, for the 4 mg pills? the 8?
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#2
 2008-01-13, 18:54
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
might as well go for the 8's if you can.
It is good, though I have never tried it... I hear that 8mg is almost as good as an oxy 40.
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#3
 2008-01-13, 18:56
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citizenuzi 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
They suck unless you are IVing. I'd say that 8mg or so would be equivalent to a roxy 30 if you're snorting. The high IMO sucks from eating/snorting, oxy is much better. If you IV though, the rush is great! I've seen people pay 15-20$ for 4's but that is on the steep side. I'd say 10$ is fair, but again, drugs in my area are expensive.
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#4
 2008-01-13, 19:03
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HippieFlipping 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
yah i can get the 4s for 15$, but i was wanting to see if there better then roxi 30s or not cause thats what i gotta pay for them too. I never done it and figured id try it but it sounds like it not even worth it well FUCK
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#5
 2008-01-13, 19:15
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
that shit can be good.
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#6
 2008-01-13, 20:46
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ilovechronic 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
2 mgs to me felt like maybe 7.5-10 mgs of oxy. i snorted the dilauded.
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#7
 2008-01-13, 21:46
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niggar hater 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
Bioavailability Oral: 30–35%, Intranasal(snorting): 52–58%
its stronger when snorted
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#8
 2008-01-14, 00:23
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
If you've never had them, I recommend buying some to test out. People here can give you their opinion, but everyone is different. For example, I would take Oxycodone over Hydrocodone ANY DAY, without a second’s hesitation. However, I know many people who would MUCH rather have the Hydro. I suppose it's sort of like how some people are stimulant users and others, depressant users. It's all up to personal taste, so to speak. As for the dose equivalence... http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi
http://www.thatspoppycock.com/l_calc.htm
Here are two sites with narcotic dosage conversion help. While these sites don't make any promises as to their accuracy, and they are strictly for analgesic properties (not the high) I'm sure it will still be at least somewhat helpful. Have fun, be safe. (p.s. I know you're talking about Hydromorphone not Hydrocodone, so please no one tell me I'm an idiot or anything...)
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#9
 2008-01-16, 19:06
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ilovechronic 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
If you've never had them, I recommend buying some to test out. People here can give you their opinion, but everyone is different. For example, I would take Oxycodone over Hydrocodone ANY DAY, without a seconds hesitation. However, I know many people who would MUCH rather have the Hydro. I suppose it's sort of like how some people are stimulant users and others, depressant users. It's all up to personal taste, so to speak. As for the dose equivalence... http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi
http://www.thatspoppycock.com/l_calc.htm
Here are two sites with narcotic dosage conversion help. While these sites don't make any promises as to their accuracy, and they are strictly for analgesic properties (not the high) I'm sure it will still be at least somewhat helpful. Have fun, be safe. (p.s. I know you're talking about Hydromorphone not Hydrocodone, so please no one tell me I'm an idiot or anything...)
I would take the oxy based on the fact that its ~1.5 times stronger. Also, isnt hydro derived from thebaine also?(so they would be similar)
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#10
 2008-01-17, 06:00
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mahatmaganja420 
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Re: dilaudid 4mg
I believe it's derived from Codeine and Thebaine (If I remember correctly, I could be totally wrong...) And Oxycodone is only technically 1.5 times stronger in analgesic action. Some people will swear up and down that Hydro is more potent for abuse. I personally feel that Oxy is much more powerful for abuse as well, but... *shrugs*
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