So a bunch of sites say that a lot of people have died doing coke their first time. But I was wondering what the reason was. I mean, was it that they did too big of a line for their first time? Or like maybe it was cut with something they didn't know. Or can you actually get a heart attack the first time you do it? I was thinking about trying coke, but after reading some of that I'm a little uneasy.

like i always say in regards to ODs.. unless you're overdosing from IVing. you must be a rich ass motherfucker. when snorting coke it's so hard to OD it's insane. that's a total myth. snort a line relatively thin about 3/4" long and you'll be fine. gauge from there.

Yeah, I figured that most of those deaths were from kids that did a huge line their first time. Although the thing I'm worried about is that my heart beats damn fast when I smoke weed and I'm only like 140 pounds so I'm probably gonna do a small line first time. How wide should it be?

no. no one keels over and dies from doing too fat of a line mang. your heart is going to beat fast but your heart is designed to take that kind of abuse. are you gonna be with fellow coke users? if so just tell them you want a small line and they'll hook it up for you. it should be fairly thin, im just pullin a number out my ass but maybe 3/16" or so.

Uh, no I won't be with other coke users. This might not be too good of an idea, then. But it's gonna be at a party on Saturday me and my friend are gonna do some there. My friends sister is getting the coke from her boyfriend. What should I be expecting from the coke high? Should I try and keep hydrated?

just do a lil line. you will be ok. a coke fiend, but ok.

youre thinkin too much. all you gotta do is do a skeet little line
------------------------------------ like that

grab yourself a beer and party it'll make you more alert and social. grab a fine chick and have her blow a line too.

alcohol + coke = biggest ego boost ever.

Everyone told me when I tried coke that it was going to be very different from what I expected.

and it was...

blow at least a half gram. you're gonna want more later that night though.

Just do the fucking drugs and stop being a little pussy bitch. You will be fine. I understand, and encourage research before doing any drug the first time. This is not research. This is, i r teh skeerd of teh droogz will me be ok?

Go learn about it. Do real research. Do you really trust your safety to some random guy on a message board giving you advice? If so, then go ahead and huff a shit ton of raid with that coke too.

Either do some real research, or man the fuck up and just do it. Either way you will be fine. Stop being a bitch.

Well I did research and I was totally ready until like three places said you could die your first time. I figured they were just anti-drug scare sites. Thanks to all of you guys, I won't worry about it, just embrace it.

Fuck yourself cunt.

Fuck yourself cunt.


Hey, the OP seemed to take it well, quite well actually, and it wasn't directed at you, so kindly shut your fucking mouth faggot.

this....

and if your paranoid about some random cuts in your coke...
UTFSE and search for a post made by SN on the purification of cocaine... "stupid noob cocaine" and it should be on the first page of results...

The reason is, or so I have heard that cocaine can literally blow a hole through your heart. I heard that on history channel. Mainly though, it will be from a heart attack or possibly a stroke.

I wouldnt count on it the first time though. They mainly use that as a scare tactic but it is posible.


Effects and health issues
Acute


Data from The Lancet shows Cocaine to be the 2nd most dependent and 2nd most harmful of 20 drugs.
Cocaine is a potent central nervous system stimulant. Its effects can last from 20 minutes to several hours, depending upon the dosage of cocaine taken, purity, and method of administration.
The initial signs of stimulation are hyperactivity, restlessness, increased blood pressure, increased heart rate and euphoria. The euphoria is sometimes followed by feelings of discomfort and depression and a craving to experience the drug again. Sexual interest and pleasure can be amplified. Side effects can include twitching, paranoia, and impotence, which usually increases with frequent usage.
With excessive dosage the drug can produce itching, tachycardia, hallucinations, and paranoid delusions. Overdoses cause tachyarrhythmias and a marked elevation of blood pressure. These can be life-threatening, especially if the user has existing cardiac problems.
The LD50 of cocaine when administered to mice is 95.1 mg/kg.[16] Toxicity results in seizures, followed by respiratory and circulatory depression of medullar origin. This may lead to death from respiratory failure, stroke, cerebral hemorrhage, or heart-failure. Cocaine is also highly pyrogenic, because the stimulation and increased muscular activity cause greater heat production. Heat loss is inhibited by the intense vasoconstriction. Cocaine-induced hyperthermia may cause muscle cell destruction and myoglobinuria resulting in renal failure. Emergency treatment often consists of administering a benzodiazepine sedation agent, such as diazepam (Valium) to decrease the elevated heart rate and blood pressure. Physical cooling (ice, cold blankets, etc...) and acetaminophen may be used to treat hyperthermia, while specific treatments are then developed for any further complications.[17] However, there is no specific antidote for cocaine overdose.
In cases where a patient is unable or unwilling to seek medical attention, cocaine overdoses resulting in mild-moderate tachycardia (i.e.: a resting pulse greater than 120 bpm), may be initially treated with 20 mg of orally administered diazepam or equivalent benzodiazepine (eg: 2mg lorazepam). Acetaminophen and physical cooling may likewise be used to reduce mild hyperthermia (<39 C). However, a history of high blood pressure or cardiac problems puts the patient at high risk of cardiac arrest or stroke, and requires immediate medical treatment. Similarly, if benzodiazepine sedation fails to reduce heart rate or body temperatures fails to lower, professional intervention is necessary. [18] [19] [20]
Cocaine's primary acute effect on brain chemistry is to raise the amount of dopamine and serotonin in the nucleus accumbens (the pleasure center in the brain); this effect ceases, due to metabolism of cocaine to inactive compounds and particularly due to the depletion of the transmitter resources (tachyphylaxis). This can be experienced acutely as feelings of depression, as a "crash" after the initial high. Further mechanisms occur in chronic cocaine use.
Studies have shown that cocaine usage during pregnancy triggers premature labor[21] and may lead to abruptio placentae.[22]
Cocaine can cause coronary artery spasms which lead to a myocardial infarction. This effect can happen randomly to any user. The coronary artery spasms can occur on the users first usage or any other usage after. The coronary spasms cause the ectopic ventricular foci of the heart to become hypoxic and the extreme irritability can trigger life-threatening ventricular arrhythmias.
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine#Insufflation
Alot of bad hit can happen. It doesnt stop people from using it.

The reason is, or so I have heard that cocaine can literally blow a hole through your heart. I heard that on history channel. Mainly though, it will be from a heart attack or stroke possibly.
Seriously, just shut the fuck up. Every single time I see you post it's some stupid bullshit. Are you 12-13 years old? Because some of the shit you say would come straight from a preteens mouth.


You need to stop posting, and start lurking for a few months, and devote some time to a little research, then come back with a different name.

Or at least FOR FUCKING FUCKS SAKE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU FUCKING SAY STUPID SHIT.



lmao@blow a hole in your heart


like its a fucking bullet or something

SN- shut your fuckin mouth. i dont say this often so take that into consideration.

Seriously, just shut the fuck up. Every single time I see you post it's some stupid bullshit. Are you 12-13 years old? Because some of the shit you say would come straight from a preteens mouth.


You need to stop posting, and start lurking for a few months, and devote some time to a little research, then come back with a different name.

Or at least FOR FUCKING FUCKS SAKE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU FUCKING SAY STUPID SHIT.



lmao@blow a hole in your heart


like its a fucking bullet or somethingCalm the fuck down. They said that shit on the history channel on the episode about cocaine. put my 2 cents in afterward that the 2 main things that could happen are heartattack and stroke. I forgot it lowers the seizure threshold also.


Pull that dick out of your ass and calm the fuck down. Gets you all grouchy stupid noob. You let it get to you to much.

Calm the fuck down. They said that shit on the history channel on the episode about cocaine. put my 2 cents in afterward that the 2 main things that could happen are heartattack and stroke. I forgot it lowers the seizure threshold also.


Pull that dick out of your ass and calm the fuck down. Gets you all grouchy stupid noob. You let it get to you to much.

you have no room to go around telling people to calm down resin biggot.

lmao@blow a hole in your heart


like its a fucking bullet or something

hahaha

you have no room to go around telling people to calm down resin biggot.

Hey I was in a bad mood that day. I had SN on my ass telling me there are no bits of plant matter in my resin and that im lying about it. That pissed me off.

But I didnt make up that coke can blow a hole in your heart, some douche on the history channel did.

Hey I was in a bad mood that day. I had SN on my ass telling me there are no bits of plant matter in my resin and that im lying about it. That pissed me off.

God forbid you get pissed off.

556, this is like the tenth fucking time he has done this. He says some stupid vague ass shit, gets flamed, and then real quick wikis a bunch of info and posts it, hoping to redeem himself.

I stand by what I said. He needs to either STFU or research before he says something.

God forbid you get pissed off.

You wont like me when i get angry.

Dode i fucking posted that before you said anything retard. I posted that so he can see wht kind of stuff it can do. I wasnt trying to redeem anything. God your a little douche.

I dont give a flying shit if you dont like that I posted it. If you got a mother fucking problem with it go bitch and complain to the people at history channel not me asshole.

let him be the dumbass here then you dont look any better gettin yourself worked up like that homeboy.

Dode i fucking posted that before you said anything retard. I posted that so he can see wht kind of stuff it can do. I wasnt trying to redeem anything.

Really? Nice. LMAO. It's over for you now faggot. I'm gonna tear every fucking post you make to fucking shreds unless you fess the fuck up right now and admit you just fucking lied.


Think about it.

Really? Nice. LMAO. It's over for you now faggot. I'm gonna tear every fucking post you make to fucking shreds unless you fess the fuck up right now and admit you just fucking lied.


Think about it.

Bullshit asshole I fucking posted that before i even saw your post. I dont give a fuck waste your fucking time. I maybe posted the sources in the other thread but this the whole reason I posted that was to show him the bad shit that can happen. I would not be scared to direct my mother fucking comment to your arrogant ass.


Now you think about it.

Im not getting into to this with you.
there is nothing in there that i need to show you, quit trying to flatter yourself, you are not that special. I read it and there was nothing about it "blowing a hole in your heart." I did not Say. "Hey stupid noob look at this then," under it. Nor did I say, "I know for a scientific fact that cocaine can blow a hole in your heart." I said " I heard on the history channel that it could blow a hole in your heart."

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www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine#Insufflation (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine#Insufflation)
Alot of bad hit can happen. It doesnt stop people from using it. Last edited by ilovechronic : 2008-01-13 at 15:10.







2008-01-13, 15:05

Seriously, just shut the fuck up. Every single time I see you post it's some stupid bullshit. Are you 12-13 years old? Because some of the shit you say would come straight from a preteens mouth.


Wanna keep lying motherfucker? The dates and times are clear as fucking day.

You wont like me when i get angry.

Oooooooooh

Wanna keep lying motherfucker? The dates and times are clear as fucking day.

DOOD LIKE I SAID I WOULD NOT LIE ABOUT SOMEHTHING LIKE THAT. I HAD NOTHING TO PROOVE TO YOU. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK. THERE IS NO INFO IN THERE TO PROOVE ANYTHING TO YOU MAN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
LIKE I SAID I WOULD NOT BE SCARED OR AFRAID TO QOUTE YOU AND DIRECT MY POST TOWARDS YOU IF I HAD ANYTHING TO PROOVE TO YOU STUPID NOOB.
LAY OFF!

The times do not lie. So either YOU are lying, or just dumb. Hehe, I think we all know the answer. Sorry to call you a liar.

DOOD LIKE I SAID I WOULD NOT LIE ABOUT SOMEHTHING LIKE THAT. I HAD NOTHING TO PROOVE TO YOU. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK. THERE IS NO INFO IN THERE TO PROOVE ANYTHING TO YOU MAN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
LIKE I SAID I WOULD NOT BE SCARED OR AFRAID TO QOUTE YOU AND DIRECT MY POST TOWARDS YOU IF I HAD ANYTHING TO PROOVE TO YOU STUPID NOOB.
LAY OFF!

DOOD THAT HURTS MY EYES!

I'm serious. Why would I post that directed toward you if there is nothing useful in there to disprove your post. Yeah sure, I may not be as smart as you, and I know you are an intelligent poster. I have my subjects which I do understand. But i'm dumb because I posted something someone said off of history channel?
I didn't say it was true I just said I had heard that. Just like the other thread. This useless to argue over something like this we are wasting our time that could be used on something more productive.

I originally posted that from wiki to show him the bad shit that can happen and that is why under it after he link it says" Alot of bad shit can happen, but that doesnt stop people from using it."

Threads like these are so much fun to read :)

BTW, quit using what you saw on the History channel as an excuse. You've mentioned it in every single one of your posts...

yeah these posts have the true lulz


ilovechronic really messed up though, internet is srs business.

you just should say what happened ilovechronic.

It's possible that he posted it after you but did not see your post. When I'm on totse I go to a forum, open all the interesting looking threads, then I reply to the threads. Often times I have had the thread open for several minutes so when I reply I don't see some posts that were posted before me.

you know, i try to avoid even posting in threads like this, that have deteriorated into internet pissing/cock size contests, but....


step back and get a little perspective on this, all of you. just my two cents, totally unsolicited, but here it is anyway. there are much better things to do with your time, even on totse.

aaah hahahahahah fags

hey ilovechronic, I know what your talking about in the "Hooked" episode on cocaine and that guy said that "cocaine deteriates heart tissue on contact", or at least something along those lines. Not exactly "blowing a hole through your heart"

I am just trying to get the kid to learn to differentiate truth from bullshit for himself. Being nice does not work. Oh, could you kindly rethink what you just posted? And say it ten fucking times in a day? No. Fuck that. That's not me.

I'm telling you, you may all hate me and laugh at me for this shit, but it really does teach people to be more independent.

im like this IRL
but everyone thinks im an arsehole :(

Wow, my topic caused quite an argument. I was expecting like 5 results not, 40.

with all that being said, stupid noob, or 556, or somebody else that is very intellligent, without flamming me, could you please tell me if it is possible to die from a single medical dose of adderall, or other amphetamines, if you have no known heart problems, but have never been officially checked?

Well barring the unknown, you should be fine, but like you said, you've never been checked, so there is no way for anyone to know. But really, it's just amps. No way in hell are you going to die from a single normal dose of amps. That's just retarded. Unless you have some fucked up allergy, you will be fine. I know many people with heart problems, and these motherfuckers still toot all kinds of shit.

YOU know your body, not me. But I DO know no one is going to die from one dose of amps. WTF.


And plank, I am the same way irl, and also perceived as an asshole, but really, all of this is common sense shit. I mean, get some common fucking sense people. If you had a brain, I wouldn't have to be a dick to get you to wake the fuck up.

I don't feel bad for making people feel dumb, or pissing them off, because they are pissing me off wasting MY time because they are too lazy to use that supreme CPU known as the human mind.


Seriously. Humans have created nuclear weapons, power, and fuck, just look at our modern world. This computer.

And some of you fucks are going to ask something so simple as will one dose of amps kill me?

I mean, do you realize how much you fail intellectually on the grand scale of man kind?

you should be fine. emphasis on should because simply anything can happen in life you know? the chances of you dropping dead from a dose of uppers is like the chances of walking down the street and having a piano drop from the sky on you.. not very likely but it can always happen.

if you're so apprehensive take like 15-20mg of adderall and go from there.

if you're so apprehensive take like 15-20mg of adderall and go from there.

that would be a good medical dose, i mean for midterms? im pretty light, so about how much pounds would 10 mgs adderall be for?

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Did I just flash back in time to 1998?

It took me 6 grams in 6-8 hours to OD, seize up, and end up in the hospital.

Did I just flash back in time to 1998?

Indeed. I think I see Michael J. Fox, he is seizing up as well.

hey ilovechronic, I know what your talking about in the "Hooked" episode on cocaine and that guy said that "cocaine deteriates heart tissue on contact", or at least something along those lines. Not exactly "blowing a hole through your heart"I tried to find it but i couldnt.

Then he made the comment "so it can litterally blow a hole in your heart "after that.

if your going to worry like this you shouldnt do it......if your anxious at all about it the coke is going to send you into a full blown panic attack and your going to wish you died......just chill out, nothing will happen.......your just going to want more thats about it.

that would be a good medical dose, i mean for midterms? im pretty light, so about how much pounds would 10 mgs adderall be for?

10 isn't worth your money. 15 minimum. 20-30 is more fun though.

10 isn't worth your money. 15 minimum. 20-30 is more fun though.

dude i just mean to help me focus, whats a good dose?

dude i just mean to help me focus, whats a good dose?

15 straight up. taking less than 15 isn't worth while. the more you take the more easy you'll find focusing and i can't see 20mg being overwhelming.

15 straight up. taking less than 15 isn't worth while. the more you take the more easy you'll find focusing and i can't see 20mg being overwhelming.

k thanks, but im pretty light, so whats weights would 15 mgs correspond to?

sorry for all the questions, but its tough to figure this out and i have an anxiety disorder....and i trust you.

This thread is great.

DOOD I DID COCAINE MY HEART EXPLODED BUT I GOT ANOTHER HEART BECAUSE MY PARENTS SACRIFICED MY DOG AND GOT ME A HEART TRANSPLANT AND NOW I HAVE MY DOGS HEART BUT IT STILL HURTS BECAUSE NOW MY PARENTS CRY EVERY DAY BECAUZ OUR DOG IS DEAD AND THEY HATE ME. THE HOLE IN MY HEART IS GREATER THEN EVER.