March 9 2007

by Trine H.Løken

The 18-year-old who died at the youth institution where he lived, died after getting high on a drug similar to LSD.

At first it was speculated whether 18-year-old Kåre Roger Martinsen, who was living at Youth in Development in Trysil, had used GHB, but the police investigations show that he died from a homemade drug which resembles LSD.

The drug mixture contains a chemical compound named Dragonfly. It resembles LSD, which is a hallucinogenic drug, and affects the central nervous system. LSD can cause false sensory experiences, illusions and hallucinations, and its effects are highly unpredictable.

Three youngsters, the 18-year-old being one of them, took the drug. A 16-year-old girl was admitted to the hospital after getting high on the drug, but was released the next day.

Police officer John Stallvik says they know how the youngsters got the drug. The police had stated earlier that they thought the youngsters might have found the recipe for the drug on the internet.

The investigation of the death is as good as over, but the police are still waiting for answers from Kripos [the tech people], such as how the drug the 18-year-old took affects the body. A friend of the deceased 18-year-old is charged with involuntary manslaughter, as he was the one who gave him the drug.

- "Once we get this information we will interview him again. After that the case will be sent over to the police prosecutor," says Stallvik.

Source: http://www.ostlendingen.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070309/NYHETER/70309002/1012/FORSIDE

if this dip shit could do it then so can we....

it is a mixture not the pure drug...which makes me believe there is a simple reaction out there...

benzodifurians weren't exactly tryptamines the last time i checked... isnt bromo-dragonfly made from DOB?

theres no one in hell he even made it to DOB...

i know i know......that is exactly what im asking....and notice the "mixture part"

If he could OD on something he knew the potency of......he did not actually synth it....


...trace amounts or minute reactions possibly
Do you suppose there is a "kitchen synth"?

The pigs/news peopel probably don't know what they're talking about.

yes, but the medical toxicologist probably does....
it was first thought to be ghb.....

GHB:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:4-hydroxybutanoic-acid.png
BMDRFLY:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:R-Bromo-DragonFLY.png

Iunno how the could confuse the two

Edit-I know theres another chemical with the dragon fly structure used in pesticides...

what the hell???

he was a multi drug user...:o
they were unaware of the drug which caused his death......:o

what the hell???

he was a multi drug user...:o
they were unaware of the drug which caused his death......:o

OH!

lol man i'm to stoned... I figured maybe he tried...pesticides....

w.e

how does one make this concoction?

yes, but the medical toxicologist probably does....
it was first thought to be ghb.....

He was most likely unresponsive, if he was even alive when they found him or atleast behaving in a similar way.

Come on, you've got some wanker journalist taking the cops dumbed down version an don't forget this is translated from whatever...in other words, plenty of blanks to fill.

Don't be dumb. :)

learn some chemistry bitch

...trace amounts or minute reactions possibly
Do you suppose there is a "kitchen synth"?

i really doubt it... most consider the synth more involved than an LSD synth... If you already have some DOB to begin with, you cut down on alot of the work... but thats about as close to your going to get to cutting this down to a kitchen synth...

Chances are he was making the doses by adding the liquid bromodrgfly to a blotter or sugar cube. That is my guess anyways. Because I the news just makes shit up to make it look worse.

Of course this is what happened here. Why wouldn't they make this drug casualty look as bad as possibly, by saying he was making the drugs and selling them... or giving them away, whatever.

He most likely bought a bunch of bromo dragonfly, make a solution, tried to make blotters or whatever, and overdosed the hits... or at least some of them.

I really doubt these kids would be smart enough to synth RC's from scratch... or even FROM DOB! and then be stupid enough to go eat a shit load and die... or overdose the hits... and DIE! It just doesn't make sense.

Of course this is what happened here. Why wouldn't they make this drug casualty look as bad as possibly, by saying he was making the drugs and selling them... or giving them away, whatever.

He most likely bought a bunch of bromo dragonfly, make a solution, tried to make blotters or whatever, and overdosed the hits... or at least some of them.

I really doubt these kids would be smart enough to synth RC's from scratch... or even FROM DOB! and then be stupid enough to go eat a shit load and die... or overdose the hits... and DIE! It just doesn't make sense.

that is where my belief of a possible, dirty, small yielding side reaction "kitchen synth" comes in.

Of course this is what happened here. Why wouldn't they make this drug casualty look as bad as possibly, by saying he was making the drugs and selling them... or giving them away, whatever.

He most likely bought a bunch of bromo dragonfly, make a solution, tried to make blotters or whatever, and overdosed the hits... or at least some of them.

I really doubt these kids would be smart enough to synth RC's from scratch... or even FROM DOB! and then be stupid enough to go eat a shit load and die... or overdose the hits... and DIE! It just doesn't make sense. Exactly.

i really doubt it... most consider the synth more involved than an LSD synth... If you already have some DOB to begin with, you cut down on alot of the work... but thats about as close to your going to get to cutting this down to a kitchen synth...

i very well know how complex this is supposed to be...

there is no way he had a; lab, precursors, vacuum pump, scale ect...

and still be dumb enough to OD.

Of course this is what happened here. Why wouldn't they make this drug casualty look as bad as possibly, by saying he was making the drugs and selling them... or giving them away, whatever.

He most likely bought a bunch of bromo dragonfly, make a solution, tried to make blotters or whatever, and overdosed the hits... or at least some of them.

I really doubt these kids would be smart enough to synth RC's from scratch... or even FROM DOB! and then be stupid enough to go eat a shit load and die... or overdose the hits... and DIE! It just doesn't make sense.

i can see this, but how hard is it to get the fucking ratio right... its simple math... i would hope that someone who can actually obtain this shit can do some simple middle school algebra...

for fucking sakes if you were careful you could easily get within a few micro grams of accuracy per hit...

Exactly.

i whole heartedly agree. This inconsistency is exactly why i brought this to your attention.

RAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDDD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

~facepalm~