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Old 2008-01-13, 07:04
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Default Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

explain
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:05
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

butthash.

No explanation necessary.
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:06
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

weed.
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:08
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

datura

not to say some crazy mother fuckers like SN haven't extracted and the used it
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:32
Rude_Hero Rude_Hero is offline
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

Bromo dragonfly... No one needs to trip for 24 hours.
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:51
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

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Bromo dragonfly... No one needs to trip for 24 hours.


that sounds kickass and wiki says "It is explicitly illegal only in Sweden[citation needed] and Denmark, although it may be considered a controlled substance analogue under US and Australian drug laws."

where would I find this at? easiest way to get?
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:55
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

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Bromo dragonfly... No one needs to trip for 24 hours.


because not many people can safely measure a
Common dose of 800 - 1300 ug
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Old 2008-01-13, 07:58
Rude_Hero Rude_Hero is offline
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

because not many people can safely measure a
Common dose of 800 - 1300 ug

lol I can, it's not that hard. But i don't wanna trip for a whole fucking day

Even on a harder 2c-e trip i'm waiting to start coming down even a little bit so i'll know i'm not going to be high forever.

And to the other dude, if that one place in canada that sells all those cool powders that help you to see rings any bells you allready know where to get it.

If it doesn't help you, get handy with a search engine ;)
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:05
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

really you can eyeball a ug

<_<
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:06
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

really you can eyeball a ug

what does that mean? and thanks man, so how should I safely go about tryin this?
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:09
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

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really you can eyeball a ug

<_<


No but i own an accurate scale and can weild a syringe.

Edit- @ slash dot
After you find a source (I hope you've a lot of disposable income handy) get yourself a good scale, accurate to atleast .01 and don't get a cheap one for 40 bucks, you really pay for what you get.

If you have ALOT of money, look for a .001, but those are rediculous...

any who, weight out .10g dilute in water and do some math.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:11
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

what does that mean? and thanks man, so how should I safely go about tryin this?

A microgram(ug), 1000th of a milligram (mg). Very hard to measure out, unless you have a very sensitive scale. I have read about a microgram scale that costs ~$30 to make. Im pretty sure theres a link on the rhodium archive, and it should be pretty easy to find on google. You do need to mess around with resistors, but it actually looks pretty easy.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:12
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

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Bromo dragonfly... No one needs to trip for 24 hours.

good point, but we do it anyway.

datura

not to say some crazy mother fuckers like SN haven't extracted and the used it

then call me a crazy motherfucker.

although, i wouldn't tweak... unless it was free.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:19
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

explain


Normally I would just lock a thread like this. You are supposed to start off the conversation. We don't allow people to just say: Explain, discuss, or see topic for the body.

But you're still kinda new here and the thread is new enough that I think it can be saved and so I will just say what I did and now I will leave it open.






Now for my answer: From almost day #1 of my drug use I said that the two drugs I'd never do were heroin and PCP.

But when I said that I never expected that I had a gene that would later cause a degenerative disease that would be quite painful. Neither did I suspect that it would be that hard for someone who is in so painfully obvious pain [pardon the pun...].

So the one about heroin went right out the window. If you're ever given the choice between using something illegal that at least allows you to hold down a good job and lets you live close to a normal life, and being in such pain that you spend most of your time in bed in too much pain to do much more - and possibly even blowing your brains out because a life like that is no life at all...well then it's really no choice at all.

At least I stuck to my 'no needle' policy. I may be a fool sometimes, but I'm no idiot. I have never met someone who has used a needle over 10 years who doesn't regret starting. And I've only met one or two who have quit, and stayed off.

As for PCP, well that's a big fuck that. That shit is way too unpredictable and is no good for you at all. I mean, they used it to knock out fucking elephants for heaven's sake! No sir! I will do over 60 hits of 80's acid but not a single puff of PCP.

One more thing - or group of things, really - that has been added to the list recently is RC's. And that's simply because of most of them are too new and not enough is known about them. I'm not willing to risk problems down the road just to get high today.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:23
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One more thing - or group of things, really - that has been added to the list recently is RC's. And that's simply because of most of them are too new and not enough is known about them. I'm not willing to risk problems down the road just to get high today.

hahah dude, someone said that exact line to my friend yesterday who replied with "Fuck the road i'm flying right now"
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:37
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My rule is that I will do any drug AT LEAST three times. Cuz who knows if there were other circumstances the first two times that fucked it up. I've reached that limit with datura, and probably won't be touching it again for a very very long time.

But yeah, there is no such thing as a drug I wouldn't try. I've done all the big ones anyway, I just can't seem to get a hold of any of Shulgins little babies, 2C-x DOx ALEPH or mescaline or any of it's substituent cousins.

I've done pretty much everything except for shit recently invented (ie last 50 years) and mescaline.

I found a source for molly, locally, 150 a gram, and my old lady seems to be dragging her feet on it, so I think that I will just get some san pedro cuttings or something so I can mark mescaline off my list instead.

Really though, I'm super pissed she's dragging her feet on this. She agreed before, and whenever the subject comes up, it's excuses. I understand being scared damnit, but at least voice that fear instead of making 200 excuses that I KNOW are bullshit.


The shit is rare as fuck here, and this chance probably won't be around for a good long while again, and she's expressed interest, I've given her material to read, but when it is actually close to happening, she changes her mind every time. Since it's no fun to roll alone, fuck it, I'll just get a shit ton of mesc.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:38
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

lol I can, it's not that hard. But i don't wanna trip for a whole fucking day

Even on a harder 2c-e trip i'm waiting to start coming down even a little bit so i'll know i'm not going to be high forever.

And to the other dude, if that one place in canada that sells all those cool powders that help you to see rings any bells you allready know where to get it.

If it doesn't help you, get handy with a search engine ;)

Canada is a rip off...they used to be cool but now they suck....dont buy from there idiot.

also the .001 60$ scales are not what they seem to be...i had to go have mine re-calibrated at a lab. (certified precision calibration weights are expensive as fuck)

and i still would not trust the shit if i was weighting out something like 2c-e or 5-meo-dmt.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:40
Rude_Hero Rude_Hero is offline
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

SN you have msn?

I think i can help you find shulgins babies
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:41
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My email is in my profile. And I've been given sources by many people, I just have yet to find a site that I trust enough to send out that much money. But hey, I'll never turn down new ones.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:41
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

Canada is a rip off...they used to be cool but now they suck....dont buy from there idiot.

Man no need to get hostile, if you think canada is a rip off your misinformed.
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:50
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

Canada is a rip off...they used to be cool but now they suck....dont buy from there idiot.

also the .001 60$ scales are not what they seem to be...i had to go have mine re-calibrated at a lab. (certified precision calibration weights are expensive as fuck)

and i still would not trust the shit if i was weighting out something like 2c-e or 5-meo-dmt.

I use my .01g all the time. I try to put 10mgs in every cap and i've never been more than 2 caps under or over 100

It's not that sketchy
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Old 2008-01-13, 08:51
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

you guys voiced your fears in measuring this stuff yourselves yet recommend I do it myself when I don't know what i'm doing? how about I buy pre-measured or is that not a good idea either...
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Old 2008-01-13, 09:09
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you guys voiced your fears in measuring this stuff yourselves yet recommend I do it myself when I don't know what i'm doing? how about I buy pre-measured or is that not a good idea either...


The smallest pre order i know of is 50mgs.

trust me man it's not that hard to measure these things out with a good scale...

For bromo, maybe. But if you put 10mgs mgs into a syringe (with water) with 100 units you can measure it out
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Old 2008-01-13, 09:17
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

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you guys voiced your fears in measuring this stuff yourselves yet recommend I do it myself when I don't know what i'm doing? how about I buy pre-measured or is that not a good idea either...


You can't put grade school maths into practice?
If you don't have the equipment.. measure, dissolve, divide, dose. :)
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Old 2008-01-13, 18:24
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

Weed, that shit will make you go crazy and kill your family...I saw it on a documentory from the 50s....That shit is hardcore man. Plus, you will go to hell cause jesus hates people who smoke weed, almost as much as he hates fags and communism.
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Old 2008-01-13, 18:35
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umm wont ever IV anything and i wont do coke ever again.
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Old 2008-01-13, 18:47
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

Meth.

--KP
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Old 2008-01-13, 19:11
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I used to be very closed minded about drugs. I always used to say a few years back "il never do anything that isnt out of the ground, il never do anything except weed blah blah blah". "E, LSD, coke etc... Are evil and will burn holes in your brain blah blah blah etc..." At the time I knew nothing about them but I was still interested in their effects without ever wanting to do them.

Then I went out and actually learned something about other drugs, and tried a few.

Basically now as far as im concerned I dont want to use a needle unless it is absolutely nessesary and anything that has been discovered too recently and not yet tested properly. And im not too keen on ever trying heroin, meth, crack, PCP and a few others but my new philosiphy is never say never. I probably will never do any of the drugs I dont want to do, I have very strong self control and im not afraid to say no if I dont want to. But to be fair crack, meth, heroin are not really drugs I come into contact very often. I still think such drugs have a use but I dont think they should be abused as they are.

Also I know a few people who will happily do every drug under the sun but refuse to touch LSD because of all the taboos and urban legends that sorround it. Being the complete retards they are I cant educate them otherwise. Hell one of those guys was out with me the other week and he found a little baggie with some dirtly looking brownish crystals in the gutter, he licked the inside of the fucking bag out with no idea what it was... Later in the day LSD was mentioned and he went into some crazy rant about how he would never touch that stuff.
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Old 2008-01-13, 22:04
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I will do almost any drug, but only if I research it for at least a month beforehand. If it's known for being addictive, I will seriously think about whether or not it's worth it to me. Luckily, it's kind of hard to find most drugs where I live, so I have lots of time to study it before I actually find the drug.
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Old 2008-01-13, 22:12
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

PCP, DXM, ketamine, benadryl, datura, etc. Dissociatives and deleriants don't look like fun. A friend convinced me to do some DXM with him once and I couldn't stand it.
I don't plan to do crack.
I'm don't really like alcohol, but I'll still have a little occasionally.
Other than those, I can't think of anything else I'm ruling out entirely.
I've reinstated my no-needle policy because I couldn't trust myself to use it responsibly.

oh, and I'm never doing benzedrex again. the comedown lasted longer than the mediocre high.
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Old 2008-01-13, 22:29
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I've never turned any drug down and at least always tried something once. I do have a certain lust for psychedelics, dissociatives, and deleriants... The more mentally compromising the better, at least in my eyes. I'll never forget the time I lost my gender on 2c-t-7. :D Fucking crazy times.... Anyway, I always explored every chemical I could, but everything comes to an end.
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Old 2008-01-13, 23:28
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I said that I'd never do heroin. I remembered those words a few months ago while I was nodding in the back seat of a car, too high to care that the girl in front of me just shot two bags of some really potent dope - the same dope that I just put up my fucking nose - and was within an inch of death.

I also said I'd never do crystal. The first time I did acid, I took a hit of tweak because the guy selling me the acid just so happened to pass the bulb my way.

I said I'd never do coke, and after trying it I think I am going to stick to that. Same goes for meth. Actually, I didn't really even feel the effects of the tweak over the acid... and honestly, I think coke is really gay. You are high for like 45 minutes and then you feel shitty for a few hours. Yeah, NO THANKS. Don't want to try THAT ever again. (But at the same time... there is a little part of me in the back of my brain that gets excited when I think about blowing lines off a CD case... and I really wish I had some blow right now. Fuck you, coke.)

So, I've already done all the drugs I said I'd never do. There's really nothing left for me not to try.
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Old 2008-01-13, 23:32
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

You can get 0.001 scales for $10 + shipping now. I'm thinking you could setup a lever on a magnetic (frictionless) bearing to increase its accuracy.

That home-made microgram balance requires a lot of mucking around with expensive calibration weights.
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Old 2008-01-13, 23:53
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You can get 0.001 scales for $10 + shipping now.

link?
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Old 2008-01-14, 00:24
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Default Re: Any drug even you hardcore tweakers wouldn't do?

Crack, coke (did it once, and now it's a waste of money in my mind), meth (outside of accidental use like meth rolls), belladonna, datura, and basically any other delerients.

Anything else is free game under certain circumstances.
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Old 2008-01-14, 00:30
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the only thing i dont see myself doing is things with needles, except meth, ill never smoke it, but idk i may try it with a needle someday. just never smoke it. some things are better left like that

but yea the only thing i WANT to stay away from is just meth/crack/heroine, ill try em all but ill never actually stick with them, hopefully.

shit i catch myself nearly passing out from a can of whipped cream cuz i dont want to exhale...best shit in the world!

and im already delusional and psychotic so its all free game to me ^^ its normal to me AND i get to feel good about it. yay loopholes!
 
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