ok let me start off by saying that this is not a troll post...

if i turn off the lights my vision is transformed to blue, green, and white shapes.

I have just woken up and the place where i sleep has absolutely no light other for the artificial...which was off.

i awoke tripping....(3 hour nap)

a flicker, lines morphing...and flashes of real life deffinition..mostly faces.
intricate designs floating and zooming in and out repetitively..
floating almost like waves lines and repetitive "flows" all in a pseudo 3-d manner....
repetitive dots and circles and craters in a 2-d over lay move like water or form a larger sphere

this is all to the point that i really cant see much beyond the white, blue, green over lay of this.

this happens on a much lesser scale in darkness, but this time the intensity was very strong, unlike ever before...and to note I was already wide awake.....

i lay there with rushes of anxiety and slight fear as to "what the fuck" but simultaneously found it kind of interesting and delved into my pondering......

I, for the last 3 years, have supplemented for increasing my "dopamine" via the amino acid L-phen(300mg), and take large doses of caffeine for day to day "alertness"
I have just began a regiment of Hydregine. Before taking a nap i did take 4.5 mg (normal dose).


To note
My only food today was 5 boiled eggs, 750ml of apple cider, a few bites of cheese, and much later a glass of milk...

before bed: water, a few pieces of candy...and hydragine

smoke any weed? this sounds bit like what joepedo was saying in the dl-phen thread... do this enough and you will have a psychedelic freak out when you smoke a bowl...

Sounds like what i normally get in the darkness, cept a bit more intense..

I'd blame the hydergine... and enjoy it. :)

even though its an ergot and made by Albert Hoffman :p

it should not have any psychedelics effects.....

I am am quite freaked about it though..... :(

even though its an ergot and made by Albert Hoffman :p

it should not have any psychedelics effects.....

I am am quite freaked about it though..... :(

I just looked on wiki for a sec and saw serotonergic effects, thought to myself hmm.... "unclear mechanism of action" figured it might have slight relatively hard to notice effects..

Shit, like i said, i get mild visual disturbances in the dark just like everyone else, anything more is likely caused by the thing they don't know what does.. k? :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hppd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hppd

-.-

OMg Gaiz I have Hppd!

Common lets be seriuous...

these were like rivers and snakes and hair/grass and it was moving...overladed with these circular waves would spread out in the field of vision and would stack on top of one another and form a point of collection to the point of a bright white light in the lower right quadrant of my vision...but it was not centrally..

i could not really look at it and see....it would change...like tripping in the peripheral vision.....
and other overlays...would morph...like a sea of wallpapered circles that would zoom in and out as i moved my eyes....

If i concentrated on a particular point it would become more intricate...and would develop a kaleidoscopic patter, electric lines thin as possible and neon in colors. The patterns would morph from a flying bird to butterfly wings to some indescribable things...like my brain was not really sure what to make of the image or at times even if the image is there or not..or what i saw or if i see what i see...it all morphed quickly yet distinct detail was present...what it was meant to be or what was happening was not understandable....

there was also noticeable static overlay...(generally the visual experiance was similar to that of a dxm trip) and it was just generally fucked up and indescribable....i would get rushes of fear...but that was because i was (like "WHAT THE FUCK?!")

I have not done any drugs....in some time....hell when i smoke any weed it becomes way to intense and time just speeds up..i feel fast and speedy.....tense and hallucinate..i believe it is the "strong release of dopamine from my dopamine pre-loading"....i also have noticed a strong progression toward paranoia...scientifically based paranoia....not random bullshit paranoia...real believable, often anxious, paranoia...

could this be schizophrenia?

i would be glad if someone like joe pedo or another totsean could relate/post/suggest/help

When I am in the dark I will see shit like that. I will even see like full blown visuals. This is on rare ocassion though. I think it has something to do with the brain not being able to see anything so it makes its own visuals.


Do you have a family history of paranoid schizophrenia or any type of schizophrenia?

www.schizophrenia.com/diag.php#common
Read that. Dont freak your self out though. Also check out psychosis. I think your fine but i am not even remotely close to being a shrink or a doctor.
Also can dopamine cause hallucinations like that?

I mean are you having crazy delusions and halucinations like in your daily life? Because that is pretty much how they diagnose it. Shit just read that it explains diagnoses and symptoms.^

When I am in the dark I will see shit like that. I will even see like full blown visuals. This is on rare ocassion though. I think it has something to do with the brain not being able to see anything so it makes its own visuals.

Most of us do.....as did i when i was a kid.....nothing to do with drugs and i tend to scuff at people who go: OMD GAIZ SPoTS WEN i close my EYEZ! HPPD! HPPD!


Do you have a family history of paranoid schizophrenia or any type of schizophrenia?

no :o

did you see that link it explains how they diagnose it and the symptoms.^

I, for the last 3 years, have supplemented for increasing my "dopamine" via the amino acid L-phen(300mg)

From wikipedia,
In addition to these, schizophrenia occurs with changes in brain chemistry, specifically, excessive levels of dopamine.

To note
My only food today was 5 boiled eggs, 750ml of apple cider, a few bites of cheese, and much later a glass of milk...

before bed: water, a few pieces of candy...and hydragine

This wouldn't be anything like that time I trolled someone about eating a dozen egg yolks and a gram of tryptophan... would it??

This wouldn't be anything like that time I trolled someone about eating a dozen egg yolks and a gram of tryptophan... would it??

i thought it to be important to mention that as i remember that too....

but my i usually eat eggs for breakfast...i just didn't feel like getting the pan dirty....and i didn't have any other food in the house....i went to troll my attic and found some really old apple cider.....

later on when buying a newspaper i bought a single serve packet of milk at the store.....

Do you think that it had anything to do with it...besides i did not take any L- tryptophan.

besides you weren't serious, were you? Doesn't seem right L- tryptophan, and SAM'e are present in our every day lives.... it just doesn't happen.

i think its likely the hydragine(still on it, about to take my dose).......i ate eggs in the morning again...nothing trippy happened.

never the less yesterday was some serious tripping....(it seems i lay awake for about 3 or so hours enjoying the CEV's and then went for a walk and a cigarette.....then posted this shit.

besides you weren't serious, were you?

Quite.

Doesn't seem right L- tryptophan, and SAM'e are present in our every day lives.... it just doesn't happen.

And ethanol is a normal trace component of most fruits and vegetables - but if you chug a bottle of rum, you'll definately notice a signifigant effect...

For that matter, GHB is present in beef and human sweat...

Dosage and time matter.

Do you think that it had anything to do with it...besides i did not take any L- tryptophan.

Familiar with the history of tryptophan?

It was first isolated from caesin, the primary protien in milk and a high percentage of the content of milk - which is why warm milk is reccomended as an insomnia cure...

i think its likely the hydragine(still on it, about to take my dose).......

That is entirely possible...

i ate eggs in the morning again...nothing trippy happened.

Try ten to twenty boiled yolks with about five grams of dried aqueous extract of sunflower. :p

Then again, that level of tryptophan intake has also been noted to cause hallucinations without further supplementation of methylation donors...

...but, yes... it could be the hydergine... or, it could be that all the ingredience for self-brewed hallucinogens were present... or a combination... or something else entirely. What's the rye content of apple cider where you live? ;)

I've done the L-phen supplement stuff over the last few days and i smoked some very nice weed and had the same thing happen to me a little while ago.

ok let me start off by saying that this is not a troll post...



thats hard to believe coming from you.

Visual symptoms are rarely in the diagnostic criteria of schizophrenia. You probably have HPPD. Fuck yourself.

thats hard to believe coming from you.


who the fuck are you?
if you are going to troll me...at least make it fucking funny
.....and use your real screen name, asshole.

im fairly certain that one of the "P's" in HPPD stands for persistent.....

Also there is little evidence that hppd even exists. Hppd has been a topic of debate on this forum for many years....

I personally hate the fact that all visual disturbances get grouped into one lame ambiguous category....

...................

if the general medical community acknowledged that it is not some wacky crack head mixing battery acid and bleach to make Drugz...while simultaneously mixing it with broken glass(so it cuts your stomach open and da drugz gets to the blood stream faster)

Usually if you go to a doctor for something like this(hallucinations)....and in addition mention you are taking nootropic medication that is not even allowed on the US market because it doesn't directly treat a problem.

This will likely reflect on your medical notes...by the way which are restricted to the patient's viewing and right for ability to change... ..

If a narow minded doctor is even aware of HPPD...he or she will likely just group all visual disturbances into the same category...hppd can exclude you from prospective employers, and might even be used in court/legal system to show incompetence...

fuck that.....

and possibly all because an essential amino acid in the human diet was naturally methylated in your body.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan
(take a look at the Dietary sources)

I think i am having an adverse reaction to the Hydregine though...i have stopped after beginning this cycle.... 3 days in....

ill test the waters in a few days again though....

3rd of January i stopped the use of Adrafinil (the precursor drug to Modiodal)

The side effects of abrupt cessation (as in my case) apparently can include Hallucinations.

I will have my liver enzymes checked.....

I am hoping that this just resolves quickly......because im feeling several uncomfortable symptoms.....for example my eyes feel stiff...it feels as though my eye muscles are under huge amounts of pressure.....sore....and quite uncomfortable.....quite a few other muscles have been feeling stiff and painfully lately.......

Maybe if you stop taking that stuff then it will stop...

Phosphenes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene

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