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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-01-12, 21:39
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boostinkyboo 
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Ecstasy
I'm trying ecstasy for the first time tonight and have some questions.
1) How long does the onset take?
2) Would smoking weed while rolling be a good idea or no?
3) Any other tips?
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#2
 2008-01-12, 21:56
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DoctorMayhem 
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Re: Ecstasy
1. about an hour, you should start feeling it before that though.
2. no, maybe for the comedown, but it dulls the effects if you have more than a few hits.
3. go to a rave and/or take some type of psychedelic as well.
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#3
 2008-01-12, 22:02
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Vegetable Man 
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Re: Ecstasy
drink some juice, and dance with girls in a dark room
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#4
 2008-01-12, 22:45
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Re: Ecstasy
1) I find the time effects come on depends, if you swallow them it can take up to an hour, if you chew them it comes on slightly faster and if you snort or any other methods that I havent tried i.e. rectally they come on very quickly. Again depending on the method by which you take them the time it takes to peak will vary and the time they last plus the harshness of the comedown will also vary.
Personally I chew them and find slight effects begin within 10mins, building up to a peak about an hour in and then slowly tapering off in 3 hours or if your pills have meth or speed about 6 hours+. If it is purely mdma the comedown is not too bad but if you throw meth into the mix comedowns are a bit nasty.
If you snort them effects can begin within minuites and will peak around 30mins - 1hour tapering off very fast with a noticably harsher comedown. If you snort them though the peak will be a lot more intense than say if you chew or swallow them.
2) Smoking weed is fine although weed makes me really really thirsty as it is and drinking too much water is just as dangerous as not drinking enough IMO.
3) Good company, good music and lots of bright flashy lights! :D
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#5
 2008-01-12, 23:52
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XstanX 
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Re: Ecstasy
It depends, if smoking weed is something that brings you a lot of joy when your sober, your absolutely going to love it while your rolling. If you smoke weed purely for the effects you may or may not like it. Some people dont like the memory loss and the cloudiness if they're trying to have a good time.
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#6
 2008-01-13, 00:03
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Re: Ecstasy
Test kit so you can stab the guy if it's fake.
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#7
 2008-01-13, 00:17
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XstanX 
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Re: Ecstasy
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Test kit so you can stab the guy if it's fake.
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Shhh, his rolls just have ket in them...
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#8
 2008-01-13, 00:52
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RednaXela 
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Re: Ecstasy
it takes usually 30min for me - 15 min if the rolls are good. i dont mix ecstacy with anthing anymore because it just kills the heavenly high, experience it pure its complete euphoria. and lastly besure to be around people you love if your not goin to a rave or somtin like that - it will strengthen your friendship with close ones.
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#9
 2008-01-13, 01:00
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Re: Ecstasy
paramethoxyamphetamine
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#10
 2008-01-13, 03:18
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DoctorMayhem 
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Re: Ecstasy
paramethoxyamphetamine
that hasnt happened in years has it? and that was in australia? i dont know :(
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#11
 2008-01-13, 06:03
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boostinkyboo 
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Re: Ecstasy
Well I took them over an hour ago and I'm feeling completely normal. Hopefully I didn't get fucked over...
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#12
 2008-01-13, 09:49
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Black Territory 
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Re: Ecstasy
Well he is either in hospital or having the time of his life and grinding his teeth.
It will hurt in the morning.
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#13
 2008-01-13, 10:42
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Re: Ecstasy
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Test kit so you can stab the guy if it's fake.
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I should have said that but sadly a test kit is something most first time users let alone regular users tend to overlook. Shit most first time users dont even know really what a "good pill" should look or taste like (Not the most accurate way of determining but better than just dropping it straight away.)
The first time I dropped E It was a spur of the moment thing at a festival and later on (glad I brought a load of them) it turned out they were the cleanest rolls I ever had and the most amazing E experience (although reading was on par.) I went to a rave, shagged some hot chick in the middle of a busy field (because someone took a shit in my tent and set it on fire, I caught him in the act) and got involved with a riot (where I threw most of my clothes on the fire and ran around hugging people,) It would suck so much to get bunk pills your first time and then when you finally get good ones they blow you away.
One of my best mates has done pills 10 times and dealt them a few times too, I dont think hes ever actually had real ones. It makes me want to hit him every time I go to see if hes actually got hold of some good ones "yeah these are pure MDMA, you just have to take like 4 of them to feel the effects" "yeah they are amazing iv dropped 6 of them today" (Standing there with completely normal eyes and a straight face.) The worst thing is this guy is actually oblivious to the fact that these pills are bunk, he doesnt know what MDMA and hes just passing on the bullshit told to him by the last dealer to sell him that shit.
He got real shitty with me once when I refused to buy some off him because they contianed BZP and PMA rather than MDMA and I told him to get rid of them before someone got hurt (most probably him for selling them) but hes stupid enough to keep selling them.
Damn I could rant all day about the state of pills in this country and the stupidity of the people taking them/selling them. If people refused to buy the bunk shit then there would be no market for them. All it takes is a quick check on the pill reports home page to get a good idea what is adulterated in your area and then if you dont buy them the dealers wont be making any money so they wont buy them again and whichever cunt is pressing them will stop doing it.
Just dont get me started on the urban legends, myths and taboos behind LSD  That and dirty pills are two of by biggest hates in the world. The next person who tries to sell me "mitzis" or tells me that LSD can be smoked on weed and then goes into your spine and comes out giving you a flachback exactly every 7 years and eats holes in your brain... Im going to rape their fucking head with a crowbar 
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#14
 2008-01-13, 12:57
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Re: Ecstasy
Just dont get me started on the urban legends, myths and taboos behind LSD  That and dirty pills are two of by biggest hates in the world. The next person who tries to sell me "mitzis" or tells me that LSD can be smoked on weed and then goes into your spine and comes out giving you a flachback exactly every 7 years and eats holes in your brain... Im going to rape their fucking head with a crowbar
I got offered dids which were "dipped in acid". My reaction was "  no".
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#15
 2008-01-13, 13:06
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Re: Ecstasy
I got offered dids which were "dipped in acid". My reaction was "  no".
Shoulda been like "I don't want any battery acid thank you."
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#16
 2008-01-13, 13:25
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Re: Ecstasy
Im fucking sick of the shit that goes around and drugs will just keep getting more cut and more bunk shit will come out there if people are retarded enough to buy this shit.
Eventually there will be almost no real pills out there (pretty much the case already.)
Still on the plus side "pure" MDMA is getting more common although it is still probably cut its a lot better quality.
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#17
 2008-01-13, 16:42
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Re: Ecstasy
tip vicks vapo rub. at about 1:30 on put enough to cover you palm and put it on your balls. trust me its the best. then get your friends to do it.
for better tips though go to bluelight.nu they have a ton of roll tricks.
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#18
 2008-01-13, 18:54
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Re: Ecstasy
you can get legal "herbal e's" that are actually better than real e's
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#19
 2008-01-13, 18:57
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Re: Ecstasy
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Originally Posted by the G
you can get legal "herbal e's" that are actually better than real e's
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Get the fuck out of this forum right now you ignorant fucking piece of dumb ass fucking nigger feces.
Seriously, my vocabulary is not even large enough to describe just how fucking autistic you are.
Please, for the sake of humanity as a whole, go die in a god damn fire, you stupid fucking faggot.
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#20
 2008-01-13, 19:13
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Re: Ecstasy
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Originally Posted by the G
you can get legal "herbal e's" that are actually better than real e's
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Do you have any idea whats in them?! Pretty much fuck all, especially since they banned BZP...
Fuck off and enjoy your placebo drugs
Edit: And since they banned the BZP that was in those shitty herbal highs, huge amounts of it has found its way into the real stuff further degrading the already shit quality stuff going around 
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#21
 2008-01-13, 19:27
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boostinkyboo 
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Re: Ecstasy
Well after an hour and a half total wait, it did kick in. I didn't really seem to have that euphoric love for everything as most people seem to describe, but I did dance for about an hour and a half straight, and it felt unreal. My friend was really talkative and seemed to have more of that "love buzz" going on, haha. And no, I'm not sure at all if they were legit pills or not, it was a spur of the moment thing....I had a good time nonetheless. I don't feel too weird today. Everything just feels a bit bland, but meh. Thanks for all the responses guys : )
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#22
 2008-01-13, 19:56
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Re: Ecstasy
Get a test kit. I sell them. 50 cents per test, 20 test minimum, and you usually end up with at least 25 tests for the price of 20 really. But that is around 1ml of test reagent, enough for 20+ tests. Prices are $10 +shipping per milliliter (20 tests worth). I also sell them in convenient applicators that squeeze out even more than 20 test per ml.
The applicators are 5 bucks a piece.
It's really easy to use. Just take a tiny scraping of your pill you want to test, put it on a clear or white glass surface, then add one drop of the test reagent, and watch for color changes to determine what it is.
Each test kit comes with a very extensive color chart and very clear step by step instructions. Better than here, this is typed on the spur of the moment.
The applicator is resealable, and self contained. It is designed like a felt tip pen, except with kevlar instead of felt, and you push it to squeeze out test reagent.
If you choose not to get the applicator, the reagent will simply be sent in a glass vial, from which you can use a CLEAN glass eye dropper to pull a drop out for testing purposes.
Serious inquiries only. Do not fucking message me about this unless you are 100% positive you want one. To contact me, use the email address given in my profile. This is the ONLY thing I allow unsolicited messages for, so you can ignore the disclaimer in my profile saying "leave me the fuck alone unless I talk to you first" or whatever it says.
If you don't want it, have fun getting ripped off, and eating unknown substances.
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#23
 2008-01-13, 20:07
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Re: Ecstasy
SN the test you are selling are just straight up marquis tests right?
Im thinking about doing the same thing as you but nobody seems to have any interest in them.
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#24
 2008-01-13, 20:22
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Re: Ecstasy
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Originally Posted by tordek battlehammer
SN the test you are selling are just straight up marquis tests right?
Im thinking about doing the same thing as you but nobody seems to have any interest in them.
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Yep, marquis. And yep, no one gives two shits about it, hence my comment about being 100% positive you want it, I'm tired of assholes asking a million questions, wasting my time, only to never hear from them again.
Good luck in your endeavors.
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#25
 2008-01-13, 21:24
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Re: Ecstasy
Yeah, sorry actually cause I asked you ages ago and never got back to you. I eneded up getting one real cheap over here and then started thinking about producing my own to sell but people seem to be happy not knowing what they are taking.
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#26
 2008-01-14, 03:55
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Re: Ecstasy
Hey man, as long as you got a test, do not apologize. THAT is the point of it. What I charge covers the cost of materials that I have invested in to what I have on hand. Well, except the applicators, but that's a neat little thing right there, totally worth it. Joe Pedos idea on how to make the applicator actually. If you can find it cheaper, more power to you man, the important thing is that you have it.
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#27
 2008-01-14, 09:24
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Re: Ecstasy
Yeah those applicators do sound really neat! Iv dont a few tests for people recently and its unbelievably how many pills are bunk, I think only 1 pill out of 6 different pills I tested for one guy even contained MDMA. The really sad thing was he had spent £70 on 40 different pills. A bit of a rip off even if they had been MDMA IMO but the fact that only about 10 in his batch even contained MDMA is saddening.
I dont feel sorry for him though, dispite the fact that I tested them and he knew they didnt contain MDMA he continued to sell them and drop them, got real shitty with me when I had a go at him for selling them. 
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#28
 2008-01-14, 09:41
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Quageschi 
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Re: Ecstasy
its unbelievably how many pills are bunk,
Thats why I tell people who are interested in E not to bother. Although recently I found a source for some legit (tested) pure MDMA, which amazes me really.
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