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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2008-01-11, 07:02
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Default How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Just wanted to know.....
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Old 2008-01-11, 08:43
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mah compound
Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Hehe, TNT is a three stage synth with a shit ton of purification. In short, tedious. Nitrate toluene once, yielding mononitrotoluene, clean that up real good, then nitrate again, clean up the resulting dinitrotoluene, nitrate a third time to yield a shitty final yield of trinitrotoluene, clean it up and there ya go.
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Old 2008-01-11, 08:54
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directly over the center of th
Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

i think he ment the classic acme tnt bundles of 3 sticks and such ...
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Old 2008-01-11, 09:10
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mah compound
Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Well that starts with manufacture. I didn't add in blasting caps. But to make the sticks it is heated gently until it melts, and is then poured into whatever casing you desire, then your blasting caps are inserted, and from there electrical leads to a control panel to control detonation.
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Old 2008-01-11, 09:19
uio3q uio3q is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Wow, stupid noob you really know your shit.
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Old 2008-01-11, 09:46
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

^ +1 for truth

You mean make a tnt bundle, or "get" a tnt bundle(ie. something that belongs in bad ideas)
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Old 2008-01-11, 19:07
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I live in Heresy
Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

not necessairely, small amounts of explosives are relatively easy to get legally in the USA if you've got a clean record.
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Old 2008-01-11, 20:10
Chainhit Chainhit is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

i tie bundles of dynamite together with twine and throw them (with a visco fuse)
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Old 2008-01-11, 20:19
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Memento Mori
Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Sorry for being such an idiot but I meant making dynamite. Hence tnt.
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Old 2008-01-11, 20:30
Ozzy Bot Ozzy Bot is offline
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google?
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Old 2008-01-11, 21:02
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

If you meant dynamite, why did you say TNT? Dynamite is NG absorbed in diatomaceous earth.
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Old 2008-01-11, 21:25
beirut beirut is offline
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Diatomacious earth is expensive as hell.
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Old 2008-01-11, 21:35
Spongebob Spongebob is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

^It's cat litter (some types anyway)
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Old 2008-01-11, 22:20
Ozzy Bot Ozzy Bot is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

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Originally Posted by beirut
Diatomacious earth is expensive as hell.


Are you serious?
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Old 2008-01-11, 23:49
asilentbob asilentbob is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Thread starter obviously knows absolutely jack shit about explosives.

Regardless of what your intentions are you need to actually do some research.

Lock?
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Old 2008-01-12, 05:13
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

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Originally Posted by Spongebob
^It's cat litter (some types anyway)



diatomaceous earth is the fossilized remains of diatoms

bentonite (cat litter) usually forms from weathering of volcanic ash in the presence of water

now they do some times use DE in cat litter but usally in smaller amounts with a mixture of calcium bentonite or more commanly quartz

i would be extremly surprised to find a cat litter that was entirly DE Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

genrally speaking it is a calcium bentonite or a mix of that and quartz
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Old 2008-01-12, 08:02
kiknet kiknet is offline
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Originally Posted by asilentbob
Thread starter obviously knows absolutely jack shit about explosives.

Regardless of what your intentions are you need to actually do some research.

Lock?

I think he gets explosives advice from AC/DC :P

'Cause I'm T.N.T. I'm dynamite
T.N.T. and I'll win the fight
T.N.T. I'm a power load
T.N.T. watch me explode
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Old 2008-01-12, 08:57
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

AC/DC could have meant it like dynoomite !!11! rather then dynamite the explosive if not i have just lost respect for one of my favorite bands over a simple stupid mistake.....
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Old 2008-01-12, 11:02
SHIMSTAR SHIMSTAR is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

dynamite is easy as hell
you just synth some ng..then soak it into an inert material
i just soaked mine in finely powdered clay
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Old 2008-01-12, 16:45
tyrael tyrael is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

dynamite comes in bundles
TNT comes in little square containers similar to lamp batteries
If you meant dynamite, why did you say TNT? Dynamite is NG absorbed in diatomaceous earth.
who the hell uses Diatomacious earth anymore
modern dynamite is gelled using nitrocellulose
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Old 2008-01-12, 22:02
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

dynamite comes in bundles
TNT comes in little square containers similar to lamp batteries

who the hell uses Diatomacious earth anymore
modern dynamite is gelled using nitrocellulose

Hate to be anal, but that would be gelignite or blasting gelatin ... also invented by Nobel!
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Old 2008-01-13, 01:51
tyrael tyrael is offline
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Hate to be anal, but that would be gelignite or blasting gelatin ... also invented by Nobel!

hate to be even more anal but gelignite usually contains potassium nitrate and wood pulp to make slower burning, less sensitive and easier to mold
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Old 2008-01-14, 12:47
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Wow, so the line between dynamite and geligmite has gone and passed away?
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Old 2008-01-14, 14:49
Eldorhan Eldorhan is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

MEKP + AN in scottex cardboard tube. Paint it red, insert visco.

VOILA ! Dynamite ! And a proudly effective one at that. Not Uber-stable but takes a pretty hard shock to set off. Hammer test failed a few times.

:p
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Old 2008-01-14, 18:14
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

Aah yes, mekp and cardboard, what could possibly go wrong!
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Old 2008-01-14, 21:59
Eldorhan Eldorhan is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

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Originally Posted by Mokothar
Aah yes, mekp and cardboard, what could possibly go wrong!


Maybe you missed the part where i said "+AN".

Besides, common ratios in these type of dynamites run around 15ml MEKP for 100gr AN.

If you manage to leak it/have it absorbed by cardboard over AN with such a ratio, congratulations, you proved physics wrong.
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Old 2008-01-15, 00:13
asilentbob asilentbob is offline
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The important part is the visco. I would assume that you know good enough to not insert until the moment of use due to the visco soaking up MEKP... however since you didn't state this any passing through retard could not realize this little tidbit...

Then they go out and attempt to light the fuse on their charge... and die.

And yeah cardboard is an inferior casing for MEKP/anything... as are some plastics...

AND a cap would help... a lot.
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Old 2008-01-21, 07:40
Halvy101 Halvy101 is offline
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

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Originally Posted by uio3q
Wow, stupid noob you really know your shit.


LOL!!

Classic Totse to go with your classic TNT :]
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Old 2008-01-21, 11:48
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Default Re: How difficult will it be to actually get a classic TNT bundle?

hurm now were have i heard this mistake before........... i know some one has just the name escapes me .. Confused

The important part is the visco. I would assume that you know good enough to not insert until the moment of use due to the visco soaking up MEKP... however since you didn't state this any passing through retard could not realize this little tidbit...

Then they go out and attempt to light the fuse on their charge... and die.

And yeah cardboard is an inferior casing for MEKP/anything... as are some plastics...

AND a cap would help... a lot.
 
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