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 #1 
Old 2008-01-10, 21:43
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Default Darvocet

not too long ago I popped 4 Darvocet N-100's, and after just researching it I found they each have 650 mg Acetaminophen.

"Each tablet of Darvocet-N®100 contains 100 mg (176.8 µmol) propoxyphene napsylate and 650 mg (4,300 µmol) acetaminophen"

That's 2600mg of Acetaminophen, is this going to fuck with my liver at all?
 #2 
Old 2008-01-10, 21:48
incorporated incorporated is offline
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A little, but you'll live.

And Propoxyphene Napsylate is no fun, sorry.
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Old 2008-01-10, 22:04
eXo5 eXo5 is offline
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yeah you're fine. the dude's right though darvocet blows.
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Old 2008-01-10, 22:20
Scoobyx01A4 Scoobyx01A4 is offline
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yeah darvs are lame, but they are good to have around for headaches and other aches and pains.
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Old 2008-01-10, 22:26
556 556 is offline
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not recreational
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Old 2008-01-10, 22:34
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I don't really get the whole "darvocet isn't recreational bit" it may not be the most recreational thing around, but it's still a synthetic opiate and it still gives me a buzz.
 #7 
Old 2008-01-10, 23:16
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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Darvocet is about as fun as being sober and it's cardiotoxic.
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Old 2008-01-10, 23:17
556 556 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bates23
I don't really get the whole "darvocet isn't recreational bit" it may not be the most recreational thing around, but it's still a synthetic opiate and it still gives me a buzz.


ya so does huffing paint
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Old 2008-01-10, 23:23
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I'd like to know how you know it will cause damage to your liver specifically, and how you do NOT know what the actual hepatoxic limits are at the same time?

Also, google liver damage APAP

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 #10 
Old 2008-01-10, 23:43
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/189664/acetaminophen_toxicity.html

thnx 4 teh monies.
 #11 
Old 2008-01-11, 03:15
VenaticalOne VenaticalOne is offline
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ehh i think darvocets alright, but ive only done it a few times and i did between 5-7

it would probly be better if you did a CWE, if thats even possible with darvs, idk ive never tried it but i dont see any reason why it wouldnt work...

i could be wrong.
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Old 2008-01-11, 03:48
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Originally Posted by VenaticalOne
ehh i think darvocets alright, but ive only done it a few times and i did between 5-7

it would probly be better if you did a CWE, if thats even possible with darvs, idk ive never tried it but i dont see any reason why it wouldnt work...

i could be wrong.

You can do a CWE on SOME propoxyphene preparations.

Propoxyphene comes as either the napsylate or the hydrochloride. One is soluble in water, the other is insoluble. If you have the soluble one, yes, you can CWE. Otherwise, no.

However, I can't really remember which is which right now.
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Old 2008-01-11, 03:51
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You can do a CWE on SOME propoxyphene preparations.

Propoxyphene comes as either the napsylate or the hydrochloride. One is soluble in water, the other is insoluble. If you have the soluble one, yes, you can CWE. Otherwise, no.

However, I can't really remember which is which right now.

Hmm..CWE on Darvos...I just cast these things aside unless I actually need something to stop hurting but hadnt thought about doing that. Would it even be worth it Confused
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Old 2008-01-11, 03:54
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Hmm..CWE on Darvos...I just cast these things aside unless I actually need something to stop hurting but hadnt thought about doing that. Would it even be worth it Confused
No.

I was only pointing out that a CWE was possible, not that it was worthwhile :)

I mean, sure, you get rid of the APAP, but it still sucks and it's still cardiotoxic.
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Old 2008-01-11, 03:55
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Figured as much, I fucking hate darvocet.
 #16 
Old 2008-01-11, 19:24
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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the propoxyphene will probably fuck with it more since it has a hepatoxic metabolite. Not something you want to take everyday.


No.

I was only pointing out that a CWE was possible, not that it was worthwhile :)

I mean, sure, you get rid of the APAP, but it still sucks and it's still cardiotoxic.

it has to be propoxy HCL. If it is propxy napsylate it will not work. I could be wrong though.
Cough cough, hepatoxic cough.
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Old 2008-01-11, 19:34
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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the propoxyphene will probably fuck with it more since it has a hepatoxic metabolite. Not something you want to take everyday.AFAIK, norpropoxyphene is cardiotoxic, but not hepatotoxic. If it is, that's just one more reason to leave it alone :)it has to be propoxy HCL. If it is propxy napsylate it will not work.Thanks, I can never remember which is which...
 #18 
Old 2008-01-11, 19:38
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Cough cough, hepatoxic cough.http://www.google.com/search?q=norpropoxyphene%20cardiotoxic

Cough cough, cardiotoxic, like I said, cough.
 #19 
Old 2008-01-11, 20:33
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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http://www.google.com/search?q=norpropoxyphene%20cardiotoxic

Cough cough, cardiotoxic, like I said, cough.

yeah maybe i mixed it up with the apap. Because with the doses of apap/propoxy you have to take to get high it can get pretty high.

Anyway, I am kind of right. The propoxyphene is not hepatoxic but the apap can be at those high doses required to get high.( since you cant do a CWE)
So basically you get the best of both you get the cardiotoxic metabolite of propoxyphene and the hepatoxic effects of apap.
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Old 2008-01-11, 20:40
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Anyway, I am kind of right.

That seems to be what all your posts are ever about.
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Old 2008-01-12, 23:08
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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That seems to be what all your posts are ever about.

And wtf is your post about. Worry about yourself man not me.
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Old 2008-01-13, 00:03
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mah compound
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And wtf is your post about. Worry about yourself man not me.
He was saying that every time you post, you only get half of the story right. So, either don't say things you aren't 100% sure of, go do the research BEFORE you make an ass of yourself, or simply STFU with the stupid bullshit that you seem to be making up off the top of your head.


And don't tell ME to worry about myself, because I make it a point not to say anything unless I am positive, otherwise, I add a qualifier such as, "I think, maybe, IIRC, etc" And I don't see Obbe being quite the ass that you have been, so, I think YOU need to worry about YOURSELF and your memory and research skills, because they fucking suck.
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Old 2008-01-16, 19:13
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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He was saying that every time you post, you only get half of the story right. So, either don't say things you aren't 100% sure of, go do the research BEFORE you make an ass of yourself, or simply STFU with the stupid bullshit that you seem to be making up off the top of your head.


And don't tell ME to worry about myself, because I make it a point not to say anything unless I am positive, otherwise, I add a qualifier such as, "I think, maybe, IIRC, etc" And I don't see Obbe being quite the ass that you have been, so, I think YOU need to worry about YOURSELF and your memory and research skills, because they fucking suck. I believe i said I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH.
Then he corrected me, and then i figured out why I was mixed up.
I dont need your clarification every single time stupid noob, believe it or not. Atleast i posted some useful info. I know you love me that much and you have made it your mission to clarify everything for me but I ont need your help.
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Old 2008-01-16, 20:18
xxdarksidexx xxdarksidexx is offline
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Youre fine man.Ive taken 7 grams of apap before when I had no choice but to keep downing percocets.All I got was a stomach ache.Also note that I am 250 pounds.
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Old 2008-01-16, 20:40
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Thats all you noticed^. You could have done some damage if "you had no choice but to keep downing percs."
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Old 2008-01-16, 21:19
GreenPhantomBong GreenPhantomBong is offline
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because I make it a point not to say anything unless I am positive, otherwise, I add a qualifier such as, "I think, maybe, IIRC, etc"

benjamin franklin oh yeah
 
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