I got a free tab thrown in with a pharmacy order. It's only 0.2mgs though. My question is: If I chute 60mgs of morphine to feel good, will I feel anything from 0.2mgs of bupe? Should I combine it with another ope (I have codeine, hydrocodone and morphine), benzos (valium, midazolam, nitrazepam, klonopin), or is that risky? Also, how long does it last?

I{ wouldnt do it if you are ependant or addicted to opiates. When you take the bupe it will rip all of the regular opiates in your system out of there receptor sites. This means it will throw you into instant withdrawal. you also have to wait 24 hours since you ued the bupe to take regular opiates again or you will get either no effects at all or reduced effects.

I wouldnt do it if you are dependent or addicted to opiates.

I'm not addicted; I've only done the morphine a couple of times (last one was yesterday), and hydro I haven't had in over 3 months. So will the bupe be useless?

EDIT: I thought the 'instant withdrawal' thing was if you injected it?

I'm not addicted; I've only done the morphine a couple of times (last one was yesterday), and hydro I haven't had in over 3 months. So will the bupe be useless?

EDIT: I thought the 'instant withdrawal' thing was if you injected it?

nope. the drug companies put 2mg of naloxlone or whatever with the 8mg dose of suboxone. (which you dont hjave anyway) But it is just a scare tactic they use because the bupe has a higher affinity than the naxalone and the naxalone has a very short half life.

So if your not dependant/addicted you will just not be high anymore from the normal opiates and the bupe will take there place. basically it will waste the other opiate. Also bupe is very strong and you can od if you have the bupe still in your system and you try to get high on normal opiates.

So just save it for a seperate occasion.

I gave my friend 1.5 mgs of bupe and he was nodding so hard(wasnt dependant/addicted) It looked like he did a couple points of h.

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So basically, it will work as long as I'm not doing other opes at the same time - correct? How long does it last?

well. it will work with other opis but you just wont feel them. The problem with bup is that it has a higher affinity than most opiates and opioids. So it pulls the othe opis out of the receptors and takes there place.

Methdone is a full agonist but it also has a higher affinity for opioid receptors than most opiates and opioids like bupe. This is why people have to "break through" the methadone with lots of opiates to get high. Bupe is a partial agonist/antagonist. So it doesnt create full on agonist effects like other opiates/oids do and you cant really break through it like mdone.

This should explain it better:
www.helpingaddicts.net/guides/HB_buprenorphine.htm
Look at the pics and descriptions of heroin on the receptors and then the bupe.

It lasts a long time. 24 hours with a 50% half life and takes 72hours to cbe completely out.this means if you take .02 mgs today in 24 hours you will have .01mgs still in your system. in48 hours you will have .05. in 72 it will be completely out.

Thanks.

I just wait 24 hours though and i get effects from other opis, so you should be good after 24.

Remember, on the link i gave you it says people will only feel normal from it. But in your case you are not dependant/addicted so you should get decent opiate effects. I dont know what.02 mgs will do for you though.

And no problem, glad i could help! :)

Fuck it, even if it does nothing, it was free.

This is why I'm glad to live in the UK. Subutex ftw.