the past few months ive been having a mental battle with myself over the morals of being in a relationship (not just sex) with a woman (girl) who could be 5+ years younger than me

the other night i was at a party and was flirting with a girl who i thought was at least at an acceptable age for me to be trying to do anything with her. we start to get along she's flirting back, we have a generally great time together and i find out she's 14 (im 19) i was so pissed i could have punched someone.

i generally liked this girl and would have loved to go out with her but not only is she 14 but she's a friend of mines little sister

there have been a few other cases like this and its driving me nuts morally.

so ill put it this way

how young would you say is too young?

and from her older brothers perspective (keep in mind he's a good friend) would you be pissed off if a friend of yours started going out with your younger sister? even if it was a Platonic relationship?

Too young at your age is below 16, probably. 16 is still a little young.

I can't give you a good reason other than it's not socially acceptable, and it would be too hard to deal with people thinking you're only in it for the virgin poon. Not worth the effort.

meh... true not worth the bullshit

Stick it in her pooper anyway.

Hey, you know you are a nice guy, to hell with what other people think. It used to be popularly held opinion that Irishmen shouldn't date Italian women, so to hell with their bullshit reactionary oppressive "morality".

My view is if it's legal it's all good.

However a friend's sister...That's a little iffy. There's way too much bullshit involved.

If I was bang on the girl and I really really felt something for her then I'd tell my friend. I'd explain that I like her, she likes me and if he would be comfortable with the idea of me being with his sister. Also a promise that I'd treat her well.
Then I'd take it from there.

i generally liked this girl and would have loved to go out with her but not only is she 14 but she's a friend of mines little sister

That happened to me, once. Except the little sister was, well, 5 or 6.

how young would you say is too young?

I refuse to play with another man's sperm. The minute it fertilizes an egg, however...

and from her older brothers perspective (keep in mind he's a good friend) would you be pissed off if a friend of yours started going out with your younger sister? even if it was a Platonic relationship?

Well, in the instance noted above... she talked with her mother and the family ended up moving me in to live with the girl in a committed relationship.

Or, just listen to Byss...

Well, in the instance noted above... she talked with her mother and the family ended up moving me in to live with the girl in a committed relationship.

Woah.

A general rule is, the lowest socially acceptable age for your partner is half your age + 7.

Woah mate that's a really nice rule.
Works for everything above 13.
13 = 13.5
14 = 14
15 = 14.5
16 = 15
17 = 15.5
18 = 16
19 = 16.5
20 = 17

And so on....

Well, in the instance noted above... she talked with her mother and the family ended up moving me in to live with the girl in a committed relationship.We need a *blank stare* emoticon.

Nicely done, old chap.

Fucking this

I'm nineteen, and if the girl was right, i might go as low as 14 or 15. Age is so arbitrary to personal and emotional development, anyways.

Woah mate that's a really nice rule.
Works for everything above 13.
13 = 13.5
14 = 14
15 = 14.5
16 = 15
17 = 15.5
18 = 16
19 = 16.5
20 = 17

And so on....
This is a popular formula, but in general, people shouldn't need it. There are people who will fuck 13 year olds, and people who won't.
To me, it's more about the maturity and personality of a person, as well as any other risks such as irate parents. At my age, I don't have to worry much about the law, but it's good to consider.
I'm not quite 18, and my girlfriend is 30. I told a little lie that I was 18, but told the truth shortly after, as I felt guilty. We manage to make things work, and we've been together 4 months, but it's not going to last.

Man I'm 16 and wouldn't tap a 14 year old.

Well I would, but that's not the point. Maybe. Depends - if the ages went 16/14 16/15 (ie she turns 15 before I turn 17) then I would, but if I turned 17 before she turned 15 then I wouldn't.

2 year age gap is my hypothetical limit.

(Hypothetical cos I suck so much with chicks I'll never get a girlfriend :()

i just turned nineteen
im going after a girl who just turned 16
age isnt really a factor for me but 14 i do kinda consider low, but meh
go for it

Run Away.....


Run Far Away

The buddy's 14 year old little sister is a bad idea.

I would feel pretty fucked up if I went for a 15 year old. 16 however, why the fuck not?

I'm 17.

11 is where they are just too young for me

This is a popular formula, but in general, people shouldn't need it. There are people who will fuck 13 year olds, and people who won't.
To me, it's more about the maturity and personality of a person, as well as any other risks such as irate parents. At my age, I don't have to worry much about the law, but it's good to consider.
I'm not quite 18, and my girlfriend is 30. I told a little lie that I was 18, but told the truth shortly after, as I felt guilty. We manage to make things work, and we've been together 4 months, but it's not going to last.

Of course when I state the age I'm talking about your average 15.5 year old and so on. Of course there are 14 year olds who are more physically and mentally developed then 15.5 year olds, and I personally don't see anything wrong with that if you're 17, but others might.

A 3 year old can't say no.

do we care about socially acceptable?.. I mean it makes shit a pain in the butt sometimes, but I could care less what other people think of me.

with her there should be a ton of warning signs if shes too immature to handle a relationship, and thats where you have to stop yourself. if you are unable to look after her interests then you shouldnt be with her.. also being significantly older than her (due to the fact of your relative youth) you are much more responsible than her with what happens. this shit aint a game. if you think everything can go well and it's something you truly feel is wanted (not justifiable), then go for it, but remember you have to protect her.

sick fuck reminder in this thread..

Hrm, ok.
This is what I think and it's by no means right or wrong, it's just my opinion.
There's a ten year age gap between my current partner and myself, so five years, probably not a big deal. But I'd only be saying that if you were say, twenty three and she was eighteen. It's all about relative age differences.
First off, she's fourteen. Jailbait.
Secondly, you're effectively talking about someone who's recently stopped playing with dolls for christs sake. I can honestly say that no matter how mature and grown up a fourteen year olds acts, it is only that, an act. THey are mimicing the behavior of women they see on television, or read about in magazines and so on.
She hasn't had the experience to understand what pursuing an adult relationship is like (now I know you're not an adult, you're a teenager and rah rah rah but you get what I mean).
As for pusuing a platonic relatiohsip... I'm sorry, you're a teenage boy, you have urges! Jesus christ!
Go find a nice seventeen year old or something to play with.

bloodenangel, I always thought that is how most people do become adults, was through mimicry that eventually becomes internalized.

id listen to her. do whats welcome (you shouldnt force people to grow up unless youre their parents) and just make sure you arent justifying your own shit.. thats pathetic. younger people are more impressionable for obvious reasons.

Mmm I agree, to an extent.
But I still think that at fourteen you're still a child, and that this mimicry is more of a game rather than something serious. Which is probably why it makes alot more sense in my mind of why she should be playing that particular game with other fourteen/fifteen year olds rather than a nineteen year old, who has a completely different concept of what he wants from the relationship. It might be just me, but I think I’d rather be with someone who had a firmer understanding on the repercussions their actions could have. I could be prejudice though, I'm finding the older I get, the more disdain I have for people younger than me, especially those of the female variety.
Failing all this psycho internal mumbo jumobness though JAILBAIT! JAILBAIT! JAILBAIT!
:)

Goddamnit, 14 is too young! Are you kidding me? Without even considering the legal issues, what on earth do you have in common with a 14 year old girl? What do you talk about when you are 19 and the child is 14? You have nothing in common except corresponding sexual parts.

And of COURSE the girl is going to be flirting with you and shit. She's FOURTEEN. She thinks it's COOL that an older guy is talking to her. She'll be telling all her little friends that a college- aged guy was flirting with her.
And the fact that she is a friend's sister makes it even more white-trashy. Why don't you consider if it was your little sister? Would you like your 19 year old male friend, who is a MAN, to be banging your middle school aged sister? And like I said, you have nothing in common. How can it be Platonic? Don't even try me. You two are at two different periods in your lives. She is about to enter high school. You are out of high school and about to become a real adult. So don't fuck it up by screwing around with a child.

And to answer your question, it's too young when you have to start asking other people if they think that she is too young.

Thats kinda fucked up pedo kinda thing so I would stay away. Plus its your buddy's sister and if I had some friend who was your age and wanted to date my 14 year old sister I would kick their ass. Get girls your own age.

Well since 14 is the legal age here.


I'd have to say 13.

and from her older brothers perspective (keep in mind he's a good friend) would you be pissed off if a friend of yours started going out with your younger sister? even if it was a Platonic relationship?


Sorry to double post, but no, just no.

If you were my "friend" and tried going out with my little sister, even my OLDER sister, I would hit you in the fucking head with a rusty pipe.

I remember you made a thread about some crazy situation you were in a while ago. Whatever happened with that?

Unless I'm wrong... it could have been someone else... there was somebody whose father-in-law was an ex-military man who was forcing family members to have sex... or something.

If you were my "friend" and tried going out with my little sister, even my OLDER sister, I would hit you in the fucking head with a rusty pipe.

This makes absolutely no sense, unless you completely disrespect women or your friends. If a man is your friend, this means that you like him and think well of him. Isn't this the exact sort of guy you would want dating your sister? Or are you such a misogynist that you are friends with and associate with guys that completely abuse women, cheat on them, disrespect them, etc. and thus don't want this to happen to your sister?

Love knows no bounds.

That's what I learnt from Disney movies.

So do it already, what have you got to lose? A friend... Self respect... The respect of others...

Nothing important.

I'd easily put my penis in a twelve year old

I pwn you all. The 19 or so's that posted are getting 16 or so year olds. Ive been fuckin a 19 year old girl since I was sixteen. Try flippin shit around, its awesome.

I remember you made a thread about some crazy situation you were in a while ago. Whatever happened with that?

Unless I'm wrong... it could have been someone else... there was somebody whose father-in-law was an ex-military man who was forcing family members to have sex... or something.

Aha, that wasn't me, but a thread that occurred somewhere at the same time as mine. That story was much cooler than mine, even though I called bogus.
Mine had to do with my uncontrollable husband.

Fuck, beat me to it.

If this rule doesn't work then you either shouldn't be dating at that age, or you should be dating older women (ex: 12/2 = 6 + 7 = 13).

12 year old should be dating a 13 year old. If he can't manage that then he shouldn't be dating.

who gives a fuck what is acceptable to others. so everytime you like a girl are you gonna come get totse's approval??? Maybe you should hold a vote on the internet. post up her picture and her report card and her bloodwork and let everyone vote on if you should date her or not.

if you feel that she is mature enough then go for it.

the friend's little sister thing is the only issue you should worry about.

I agree whole heartedly.

I mean I don't care mcuh aboot the age thing, I'm twenty but looks 17 so i get these young girls flirting with me and stuff.
I'd go through with it if it weren't for this one girl I like a whole lot more.

but back to the point. she's your friends little, really little sister, he'd just think you are a pedo.

I'm 20, and the lowest I would go is 17. Maybe. Girls are just too immature when they're that young. Besides, a spread of 14 and 19 is illegal in all 50. If you go out with her you better not touch her.

Aha, that wasn't me, but a thread that occurred somewhere at the same time as mine. That story was much cooler than mine, even though I called bogus.
Mine had to do with my uncontrollable husband.

Oh, right. Well, if there are any new happenings worth mentioning you should update the thread.

Anybody know whose thread had the crazy father-in-law?

Fuck, beat me to it.

If this rule doesn't work then you either shouldn't be dating at that age, or you should be dating older women (ex: 12/2 = 6 + 7 = 13).

12 year old should be dating a 13 year old. If he can't manage that then he shouldn't be dating.But a 13 year old can't date younger than 13.5...

The rule, obviously, only applies to those >14.

But a 13 year old can't date younger than 13.5...

The rule, obviously, only applies to those >14.

Hence... a paradox.

But, personally, I think this rule pretty much applies to men only.

I mean, seriously, the odds of a girl dating younger then them are already slim... If a boy can manage nabbing an older chick...

Well, god bless him.

how young would you say is too young?

I refuse to play with another man's sperm. The minute it fertilizes an egg, however...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!:D

Win!





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As long as it's legal, I'd do it. Too much hassle to do younger with the anti-pedo brigade out there, especially if the parents get concerned about their precious darling daughter starting to get around.

For the practical deviant: If in doubt, don't keep it out.
Instead that's what you should do at home with your tub of bulk lube.

To hell with society if a eighteen year old wants to go for a fifteen year old
i embrace both of them on in their perversion

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Get your friend's opinion on the issue. He knows his sister more than you do.

If you were 17 or even older would u date any of these girls? They're all freshmen.

http://i17.tinypic.com/8bqykhx.jpg

When I was 18, I lost my virginity with a 14 year old chick. And fuck yeah, I'd do that again.

If they are old enough to bleed, they are old enough to suck dick.

No, but I would fuck at least one of them.

Everyone except the one with the stripes.

13 - 15
14 - 16
15 - 17
16- 18
13 - 21
etc

lol.. what the fuck?

fuckin A

I'll be the first to agree that maturity is more important than chronological age. Over the years, I've met two, maybe three, quite young girls (two 13 year olds, and a 15 year old. I consider 16+ 'in play' personally) who I would consider mature enough to get involved with, all else being equal.

But all else is not equal. You do not want the prison time that this will get you. You will not want the kind of prison experience this will get you. People who get thrown behind bars for messing with kids are the bottom of the fucking food chain, which means everyone will be putting whatever they want where ever you don't want it.

But all else is not equal. You do not want the prison time that this will get you. You will not want the kind of prison experience this will get you. People who get thrown behind bars for messing with kids are the bottom of the fucking food chain, which means everyone will be putting whatever they want where ever you don't want it.

Ya that is actually quite true. Just watch some of those shows on court tv, and hear the stories.

Oh, right. Well, if there are any new happenings worth mentioning you should update the thread.

Anybody know whose thread had the crazy father-in-law?

Ah, yes. I should. Totse feeds on drama, doesn't it?

Always go for it. Don't listen to Billy Graham and his grandmother.

You got only one life to live, boy.