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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2007-12-14, 16:12
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Phayder92889 
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I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Yeah... My girlfriend and I have been together for nearly 6 months now, and I'm her first for nearly everything as she's mine. My thoughts, though, on oral sex are probably a bit different than most.
Firstly: I enjoy giving it, but not receiving it so much. She has a small mouth, and she can't quite get the rhythm or necessary force to get me off. It feels good, but it's not going anywhere. On the other side of things, she can't masturbate, so I'm the only one who successfully gets her off. Not that she won't, because she's tried, but she concentrates too much on what she's doing, rather than how it feels, thus negating the experience.
When I go down on her, I've been a pretty fast learner in that arena, I'd imagine. I can now get her off in about 10 minutes, buildup to release. I did some research online, found a few things that were written by women as "how-to" articles for the subject, so I had some idea as to how to go about this. I've been fingering her in varying intensities, culminating with a pretty intense climax about 2 days ago when I fingered her while eating her out. She nearly broke my fingers, and she pressed so hard into my face that I cut my lower lip.
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What I'm asking is this: Is it rare to have a girl who can get off this quickly and intensely, or is this normal and the articles and stories floating about the ether about this subject fraught with misinformation about the difficulty thereof.
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#2
 2007-12-14, 16:40
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Nope! normal as it comes!
Normal as it comes HaHa I just made a funny without realising it!
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#3
 2007-12-14, 17:11
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
it depends mostly on the individual girl. I've been with girls who are on opposite sides of the spectrum!
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#4
 2007-12-14, 18:39
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Originally Posted by uncle_einstien
it depends mostly on the individual girl. I've been with girls who are on opposite sides of the spectrum!
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Now the question becomes this. Are girls on the other side of the spectrum that way because they are physically less responsive, or because they are more psychologically prudish and have "moral" issues with sex, thus making it harder for them to get off?
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#5
 2007-12-14, 18:56
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Any girls wanna chime in with personal experiences? They'd probably be the best experts to consult in these matters...
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#6
 2007-12-14, 20:38
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Easier to get off, the more sluttish they tend to be, in my experience. I've had everything between needing an hour and luck, to 5 times in a night without trying that hard.
Not that I'm implying cause and effect in either direction, just wanted to provide some datapoints.
And good job. Some boys just sorta naturally know where the nerves are, almost like they can feel them through the skin, you sound like one of those boys. It's convenient, no?
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#7
 2007-12-14, 20:39
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Sounds about right.
I applaud your efforts.
Oral is win.
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#8
 2007-12-14, 21:11
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Originally Posted by MH-iforgotmypassword
Easier to get off, the more sluttish they tend to be, in my experience. I've had everything between needing an hour and luck, to 5 times in a night without trying that hard.
Not that I'm implying cause and effect in either direction, just wanted to provide some datapoints.
And good job. Some boys just sorta naturally know where the nerves are, almost like they can feel them through the skin, you sound like one of those boys. It's convenient, no?
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I wouldn't say that I can specifically feel the nerves through the skin, but I'm still pretty adept at figuring out what seems to work with her. Still, I'm one of those paranoid dudes who's never quite sure of himself in any arena until confirmed by several outside sources and a leading expert in the field.
For example, after the massive ordeal on Wednesday, me with the hurt fingers, cut lip, and gasping for air since I'd been shut off from my air supply for a little while, I still asked her if she'd gotten off. She laughed, but I didn't know if it was an orgasm or an epileptic seizure or what. I'm still kinda dumb, in that regard...
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#9
 2007-12-14, 22:00
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Originally Posted by Phayder92889
Any girls wanna chime in with personal experiences? They'd probably be the best experts to consult in these matters...
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I've never gotten off from getting head. I can only get off from sex.
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#10
 2007-12-14, 23:14
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I've never gotten off from getting head. I can only get off from sex.
Ditto.
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#11
 2007-12-14, 23:16
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I've never gotten off from getting head. I can only get off from sex.
Blimey; works for me everytime - sometimes better than intercourse
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#12
 2007-12-15, 02:59
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
The first time my boyfriend ever went down on me...I came in literally two minutes. Even now, after two years, he can still get me off in the time it takes to make toast.
You're obviously doing it right, so what's the problem? I see only advantages.
And as for her, it doesn't sound like she's totally hopeless, just needing in practice and careful instruction. Just compliment her tons and let her know how insanely sexy she is when she's going down on you, and she'll always be up for some practice.
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#13
 2007-12-15, 04:14
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I've never gotten off from getting head. I can only get off from sex.
This.
Well, I can't blame her. She doesn't really like to, but I guess she's trying. :)
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#14
 2007-12-15, 04:51
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Wow, maybe your just fucking awesome.
It probably has a lot to do with the fact that she doesn't get off very often due to the fact that she can't masturbate. Think about it, if you don't get off for like a month when you finally do its a lot better.
I've never gotten off from oral before. Probably has a lot to do with the people doing it, and their lack of knowledge/ignorance (depending on the situation) of female anatomy. You should eat me out sometime.
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#15
 2007-12-15, 04:56
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I've never gotten off from getting head. I can only get off from sex.
That doesn't sound right.. gimme a call sometime ;)
But really, I've always found oral to be the easiest/fastest way to get a girl off, never had I girl (that I went down on) not get off on it, I've heard of a few that couldn't, but apparently the guy(s) in question failed at doing it. Not hard to learn, and highly appreciated. Oh, and OP, congrats.
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#16
 2007-12-15, 05:00
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
That doesn't sound right.. gimme a call sometime ;)
You should eat me out sometime.

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#17
 2007-12-15, 05:05
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Wow, maybe your just fucking awesome.
It probably has a lot to do with the fact that she doesn't get off very often due to the fact that she can't masturbate. Think about it, if you don't get off for like a month when you finally do its a lot better.
I've never gotten off from oral before. Probably has a lot to do with the people doing it, and their lack of knowledge/ignorance (depending on the situation) of female anatomy. You should eat me out sometime.
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aaargh. And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a clear example of what I call the "relationship 22" principle.
When in a relationship, girls want you. They seem to all be giving you the googly eyes and fantasizing about the bulge in your pants, wanting your "bod" and being oh so interested in you and all that.
When not in a relationship, the girls seem to look at you like something boring and unnecessary in your local grocery store aisle.
OP good job, I feel your pain.
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 2007-12-15, 05:12
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
aaargh. And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a clear example of what I call the "relationship 22" principle.
When in a relationship, girls want you. They seem to all be giving you the googly eyes and fantasizing about the bulge in your pants, wanting your "bod" and being oh so interested in you and all that.
When not in a relationship, the girls seem to look at you like something boring and unnecessary in your local grocery store aisle.
OP good job, I feel your pain.
It's not that he's taken, it's just that he sounds really fucking good at eating pussy.
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#19
 2007-12-15, 05:21
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
It's not that he's taken, it's just that he sounds really fucking good at eating pussy.
true true, but its still a sad principle of life. Frankly, I dont think if he had said that his experiences were with some random friend with benefits it would have produced the same effects.
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#20
 2007-12-15, 06:16
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
congrats.
Personally, never been able to orgasm from oral. Its usually him trying to get as deep as he can with everything and hits nothing good. Felt bad telling him that the first time so faked it. Shall try and gently correct him next time same way he does me.
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#21
 2007-12-15, 07:01
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I've never gotten off from getting head. I can only get off from sex.
I havent been able to get off from anything with my man, luck(ies) ; ;
Need more practice I guess, I'm his first for giving oral, and our first time actually having sex was a total flop (not quite "is it in yet?" but very, very close... and it wasnt me that said it).
Anyways, maybe I should look up some of those how-to guides.. do you think they helped you? how sensitive is she? Peronally it hurts like hell if someone touches my clit directly, it sortve has to be done through the hood over it.... Do any guides account for this?
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#22
 2007-12-15, 07:04
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Peronally it hurts like hell if someone touches my clit directly, it sortve has to be done through the hood over it.... Do any guides account for this?
Yep, most if not all do note that.
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#23
 2007-12-15, 07:08
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I havent been able to get off from anything with my man, luck(ies) ; ;
Need more practice I guess, I'm his first for giving oral, and our first time actually having sex was a total flop (not quite "is it in yet?" but very, very close... and it wasnt me that said it).
Anyways, maybe I should look up some of those how-to guides.. do you think they helped you? how sensitive is she? Peronally it hurts like hell if someone touches my clit directly, it sortve has to be done through the hood over it.... Do any guides account for this?
You do realize that I am a straight female, right?
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#24
 2007-12-15, 07:10
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
You do realize that I am a straight female, right?
The last bit was directed at the OP, or anyone with a response, sorry XD
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#25
 2007-12-15, 07:21
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Suppose I'll do a small writeup/response.
I actually only did it first after seeing a few guides, which was entirely by chance, but it did help. A lot of it seemed common sense, actually, but hey.
My gf is fairly sensitive, and can't stand her clit being touched/licked unless she's really worked up.
If someone didn't know what they were doing, or how to do it, then the guides would be a good bit of help. I'll toss in 2 big points here:
1) DO NOT LICK LIKE A FUCKING DOG. You can do much, much better than this, don't bother.
2) Don't bother trying to stick your tongue into her uterus, those 2" of tongue won't do the job of your (hopefully larger) penis as well as you think. Focus on the clit/labia/etc. Spell out letters/word/shapes/etc. with the tip of your tongue, in small 'font' around/on the clit (if she can handle that) and lips.
3) Adding a finger or 2 in the equation tends to be a pretty damn good idea 95% of the time, aim for the g-spot (forwards, and in 2-3" or so, spongy/ridged compared to the tissue around it, with the usual 'come here' motion.
4) Most common sense... ask what she likes or what feels good, you're wasting valuable time guessing otherwise. It's pretty easy to see what she enjoy just by verbal/physical reactions (get used to your ears/hair/back of your head as handles, some girls try to pull you closer when they're into it).
Now, the OP seems to have this down pretty well, but as small tips for the rest of totse/the females to pass onto their guys to improve their technique, hope this helps a bit. Or, y'know, find one of the very good guides on this, we had a nice one on here a while ago, dunno where it went now.
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 2007-12-15, 07:26
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Ooo, danke Orange_Crusader...
Mind me asking what part of Canada you're from? West or east, at least?
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#27
 2007-12-15, 13:41
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Ooo, danke Orange_Crusader...
Mind me asking what part of Canada you're from? West or east, at least?
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East by definition, though by no means near the maritimes.
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 2007-12-16, 01:27
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Originally Posted by Phayder92889
Yeah... My girlfriend and I have been together for nearly 6 months now, and I'm her first for nearly everything as she's mine. My thoughts, though, on oral sex are probably a bit different than most.
Firstly: I enjoy giving it, but not receiving it so much. She has a small mouth, and she can't quite get the rhythm or necessary force to get me off. It feels good, but it's not going anywhere. On the other side of things, she can't masturbate, so I'm the only one who successfully gets her off. Not that she won't, because she's tried, but she concentrates too much on what she's doing, rather than how it feels, thus negating the experience.
When I go down on her, I've been a pretty fast learner in that arena, I'd imagine. I can now get her off in about 10 minutes, buildup to release. I did some research online, found a few things that were written by women as "how-to" articles for the subject, so I had some idea as to how to go about this. I've been fingering her in varying intensities, culminating with a pretty intense climax about 2 days ago when I fingered her while eating her out. She nearly broke my fingers, and she pressed so hard into my face that I cut my lower lip.
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What I'm asking is this: Is it rare to have a girl who can get off this quickly and intensely, or is this normal and the articles and stories floating about the ether about this subject fraught with misinformation about the difficulty thereof.
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... whatever you do, dont forget to wash/clean your mouth when your done.
My Sr. year, I was going down on my ex g/f and was running late for my Sr. pics. Left home without washing up.
Wasnt funny when theres white dried up shit all over your mouth and the photographer is trying to put a bowtie on your neck with his face close to your mouth trying to see what the hell hes doing. :(
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 2008-02-05, 16:57
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
ack... sorry for abandoning things here...
she's managed to get herself off last night, so I'm happy for her.
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Technique-wise, I dunno what I'm doing special. I have a pretty short and rough tongue, but I do lots of stuff...
Example: I start off by flicking my tongue over her clit, then I go up both sides of her labia with firm pressure. I can't get my tongue inside her, so I move up to her clit and gently insert two fingers. I start off with them straight, then I suck on her clit and hook my fingers upward and massage the top of her vagina (the spongy area where you can feel her pulse). I don't do it very hard, but I start moving my fingers in slow circles, then I suck on her clit whilst massaging it with my lips and tongue.
She'll trigger in about 30 seconds with that...
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 2008-02-05, 17:09
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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ack... sorry for abandoning things here...
she's managed to get herself off last night, so I'm happy for her.
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Technique-wise, I dunno what I'm doing special. I have a pretty short and rough tongue, but I do lots of stuff...
Example: I start off by flicking my tongue over her clit, then I go up both sides of her labia with firm pressure. I can't get my tongue inside her, so I move up to her clit and gently insert two fingers. I start off with them straight, then I suck on her clit and hook my fingers upward and massage the top of her vagina (the spongy area where you can feel her pulse). I don't do it very hard, but I start moving my fingers in slow circles, then I suck on her clit whilst massaging it with my lips and tongue.
She'll trigger in about 30 seconds with that...
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I really don't think its that difficult to get a female off... You just have to be into her as much as you are into having sex.
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#31
 2008-02-05, 17:23
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I've been having weird dreams lately, where I'm cheating on her with various girls I've found attractive at some point or another.
Mostly the short ones with disproportionately large tits...
What does that mean? I know I have a good thing here with her, but there's something about girls that who'd hurt me and who'd be terrible for me that attracts me....
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#32
 2008-02-05, 18:10
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
I really don't think its that difficult to get a female off... You just have to be into her as much as you are into having sex.
I agree. If there's a good amount of chemistry there, you shouldn't have too much trouble.
My theory is that almost all failures in sexual performance, whether it be losing an erection, not being able to get off, etc., are caused by psychological reasons and not physical ones.
Last time I had the pleasure of a girl's company she got off in 5 minutes or less, with me just fingering her. Now this might seem special or whatever, but if you look at the context of the hookup: we had already mentally undressed/fantasized about each other the night before, and there was a ridiculous amount of tension in the air.
I knew she wanted me, and I knew I wanted her, and I think the same was true for her. I couldn't even look at her eyes without getting that sexy ass look in return that says, "Please take me." (Don't you love that look?) But girls get to hold out for the guy to make the move :P. So when I finally went for it, there was a huge confluence of sexual energy. You can just feel the desire, and I think that has a lot to do with getting off, and good sex in general. Reminds me of this: http://www.xkcd.com/372/
(We then had great sex ftw)
Also, it makes me think of the vastly different amounts of pleasure you can get from say, masturbation. You could just do it and think about some porn star you have no real emotional attraction to. Or, you could imagine getting with "that girl" that you've had a crush on for a long time. If you have any imagination whatsoever, the latter will be more pleasurable. Correct me if I'm wrong at any point, btw. It is for me anyway.
So while the effect is obvious, it doesn't seem to make sense if you explain the difference by saying "that girl" is just hotter. For one, the average porn star is pretty hot. Then on top of that, the average person's crush is not exactly a dime-piece, and the vast majority of girls couldn't be ultra-hot, or else then they'd just be normal again. Assuming that the whole "girl you like gets you off better" idea is true for others (I need some input here, I can only speak for myself), then it seems obvious that there's a positive correlation between actually wanting the person you're with and how much you enjoy the sex.
So in conclusion(haha), two things that are (probably) underrated in terms of sexual relations:
1. Actually wanting (to please) the partner
2. Being wanted by the partner
And while I don't really do the whole complete stranger hookup thing, I could easily imagine not getting a girl off because I was more interested in busting a nut than giving her an orgasm. And the more I think about it being a random person, the less inclined I am to believe that I would give a shit if she didn't get off. She probably wouldn't care about me either.
And that might be the problem, is that random hookups are so selfish. Guy's trying to bust a nut, Girl's trying to get her orgasm, neither enjoys themself that much. Whereas if the guy's trying to fuck the girl like she's never been fucked and the girl's trying to slide that pussy over every square inch of dick, both have wonderful orgasms.
That, my friends, is why giving is better than receiving. Because when you give properly, you get a lot in return. If more guys would stop looking at it as "taking pussy" and just give girls that good dick, they'd probably enjoy their hookups a lot more.
My view on that has always been quality over quantity. I'd rather have mindblowing sex a couple times a week than sloppy, mediocre sex every day.
*Steps off soapbox*
And before someone says it: yes, I'm on uppers.
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 2008-02-05, 20:06
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
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Nope! normal as it comes!
Normal as it comes HaHa I just made a funny without realising it!
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this is why i come on totse
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#34
 2008-02-05, 20:50
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
LoL guyzz i aM gud @@ orall??? is tihs normal??? GiB mE complImentZ plS!!!!!!! luk how awsum i am he he i pretend 2 ask qwestiun!!!
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#35
 2008-02-05, 21:18
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Considering I was a virgin until a month ago, and that I still don't know why this girl continues to put up with my bullshit, I was under the impression that going down on a girl was supposed to be like beating Devil May Cry 3 with a blindfold on and no weapons.
I didn't mean to make it sound like I was fishing for compliments, I only do that when I ask people for their opinions on my writing :D.
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#36
 2008-02-05, 23:08
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Forgive me my suspicion, then. This is Totse, after all... :D
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 2008-02-06, 00:39
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Re: I thought oral was supposed to be... y'know... harder than this...
Oral is easy. The first time I gave it she came 3 times.
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