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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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# 1

2007-12-07, 17:42
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What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Where in the Quar'an does it state that all believers should kill infidels (there is multiple verses) and is there anything that says only certain muslims need to do this?
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# 2

2007-12-07, 17:43
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South England.
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
I'm sure the passage i've read only refers to occupying forces that bring terror and oppression.
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# 3

2007-12-07, 17:46
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Place of the bridge
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Yeah, it was written at the time of the Crusades, wasn't it? So maybe sort of reasonable against that you could say. But it's been twisted by the extremists to whatever they want it to be.
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2007-12-07, 17:54
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by Shrike
Yeah, it was written at the time of the Crusades, wasn't it? So maybe sort of reasonable against that you could say. But it's been twisted by the extremists to whatever they want it to be.
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Well, supposedly it was written about 400 years before the first crusade.
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# 5

2007-12-07, 19:58
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Koran sura 9:5
paraphrased: "Kill all non-believers, take them into captivity and starve them etc.."
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2007-12-08, 13:44
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by scorpio2121
I'm sure the passage i've read only refers to occupying forces that bring terror and oppression.
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Well, then they're justified in attacking U.S. forces.
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# 7

2007-12-08, 18:07
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
If they want to follow in the steps of their prophet, they should. He raped and pillaged Mecca and other cities just because the people there were "pagans" so-to-speak. But hey, why not follow a militant, illiterate, stat rapist?
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2007-12-08, 21:11
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by KikoSanchez
If they want to follow in the steps of their prophet, they should. He raped and pillaged Mecca and other cities just because the people there were "pagans" so-to-speak. But hey, why not follow a militant, illiterate, stat rapist?
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Whereas the God of the Jews and Christians vaporised entire civilizations simply because they were living where the Jews wanted to be.
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# 9

2007-12-08, 22:19
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by socratic
Whereas the God of the Jews and Christians and muslims vaporised entire civilizations simply because they were living where the Jews wanted to be.
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2007-12-08, 23:05
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by Cytosine
Well, then they're justified in attacking U.S. forces.
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You poor, media misguided soul.
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#11
 2007-12-09, 10:23
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
8.12 "Remember thy lord has inspired the angels with the message. Give firmness to the believers and instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite the fingertips of them."
9.5 "When the sacred months have passed, kill the idolaters whereever you find them."
47.4 "When you encounter the unbelievers, Strike off their heads. Untill you have made a wide slaughter among them tie up the remaining captives."
verify these, im not sure if theyre correct
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#12
 2007-12-10, 02:59
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Thanks manti.
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#13
 2007-12-10, 03:00
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
lolar
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#14
 2007-12-10, 11:06
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Mantikore 
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/violence-at-heart-of-Islam.htm
after some online snooping this may be helpful too
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#15
 2007-12-10, 11:55
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Is their no atni0muslm and jewish rihts? Legit.
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#16
 2007-12-11, 02:44
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
I am an idiot.
Yep. And according to you, Saddam was justified in gassing the Kurds? And killing millions simply because they didn't like him? And flying jets into the World Trade Center buildings? Wow. You really are an idiot.
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#17
 2007-12-11, 20:05
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ViVe CUERVO 
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Yep. And according to you, Saddam was justified in gassing the Kurds? And killing millions simply because they didn't like him? And flying jets into the World Trade Center buildings? Wow. You really are an idiot.
I wasn't aware that Saddam could fly a plane...
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#18
 2007-12-11, 23:56
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
Who cares? It's the middle east, they're all out to get us...
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#19
 2007-12-12, 06:41
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by Blades of Hate
Koran sura 9:5
paraphrased: "Kill all non-believers, take them into captivity and starve them etc.."
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Alright, but you forgot the part about not going out and finding non-believers, and only people who try to take your beliefs away. I mean, wouldn't you fight against a force who tried to take your beliefs away? Your answer should be less, or it makes you less human.
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#20
 2007-12-18, 22:37
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
it' not just the muslims... read the bible it gives explicit instructions on how to correctly stone pagans
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#21
 2007-12-19, 01:20
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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Originally Posted by evilman
it' not just the muslims... read the bible it gives explicit instructions on how to correctly stone pagans
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I need justifications on hating muslims, not christians you punk bitch.
BTW I posted on some muslim forum that they were all terrorist and then I gave them the verses, and this pissed them off SO BAD.
But, a big counter argument was that these verses were based around war time or something. This seems oftly vauge tho and it seems wrong.
All muslims are terrorist right?
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#22
 2007-12-19, 01:42
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
BTW I posted on some muslim forum that they were all terrorist and then I gave them the verses, and this pissed them off SO BAD.
OOOO, you big BAD internet predator! I bet they all lost several hours of sleep over your harassment.
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#23
 2007-12-19, 04:09
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Re: What verses in the Quar'an does it say to murder infidels?
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