Alright, just out of curiosity , I need some info about how to turn an average girl, around 6 or 7, into a 9 or 10. Anyone help me out with some good advice?

money.

Step 1: Rent 'She's all that'

Good looking clothes

If she's fat theres nothing you can do

You beat me to it.

fuckin asshole...ya beat me :D

I agree completely.

High heels, classy posture, and a pretty dress go a very long way. Also, being feminine, not being opinionated and loud, and listening to her more intelligent man can bump her up 2-3 points.

Last I checked you can dress up and try to pour classyness onto a pig and i'll still be a pig. Clothes don't solve it alone.

Good hair/makeup (not a lot), etc. and then clothes/etc. to top it off can work, but none of them alone can.

Now, if she is fat or ugly, then it's most likely a minimum benefit,

Au contraire! If she's just FAT, you can have her lose weight.

And if she's ugly, it depends what KIND of ugly. There's girls who are ugly because they don't try, and then there are just ugly girls. If you can get the former to try, then you're good to go. This may involve makeup, new clothes, and a different disposition. For the latter...well, you're fucked.

I don't think an average girl can ever be a 10.0, though, because a 10.0 who IS a 10.0 wouldn't have to have makeup, dresses, et cetera... to look good. A 10.0 will look good in an ugly tshirt and sweatpants after 3 days without a shower. But you can get an average girl to 9.9, methinks!

If she's just plain/ordinary, then it's doable to a 9. If ugly/fat the eh... If she's pretty, but looks plain for whatever reason, then upper 9s is doable.

pics.
No, not one of those 'myspace' over the shoulder looking up at the ceileing shots. One straight on semi non-posed pictures and one of her facing the camera full-body pics.

I have yet to meet a woman who could not pick up 2 or 3 points from addressing their image/presentation. But you gotta have something to start with.

Alcohol.

Alcohol.

Well damn, generic here just outsmarted everyone in this thread. My hat off to you, sir.

I agree completely.

High heels, classy posture, and a pretty dress go a very long way. Also, being feminine, not being opinionated and loud, and listening to her more intelligent man can bump her up 2-3 points.

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Well damn, generic here just outsmarted everyone in this thread. My hat off to you, sir.

I feel like I just got owned.

* Abdominoplasty (or "tummy tuck"): reshaping and firming of the abdomen
* Blepharoplasty (or "eyelid surgery"): Reshaping of the eyelids or the application of permanent eyeliner, including Asian blepharoplasty
* Mammoplasty
o Breast augmentation (or "breast enlargement" or "boob job"): Augmentation of the breasts. This can involve either saline or silicone gel prosthetics.
o Breast reduction: Removal of skin and glandular tissue. Indicated to reduce back and shoulder pain or for psychological benefit in women with macromastia.
* Buttock Augmentation (or "butt augmentation" or "butt implants"): Enhancement of the buttocks. This procedure can be performed by using silicone implants or fat grafting and transfer from other areas of the body.
* Chemical peel: Minimizing the appearance of acne, pock, and other scars as well as wrinkles (depending on concentration and type of agent used, except for deep furrows), solar lentigines (age spots, freckles), and photodamage in general. Chemical peels commonly involve carbolic acid (Phenol), trichloroacetic acid (TCA), glycolic acid (AHA), or salicylic acid (BHA) as the active agent.
* Mastopexy (or "breast lift"): Raising or reshaping of breasts. Involves removal of breast skin as opposed to glandular tissue.
* Labiaplasty: Surgical reduction and reshaping of the labia
* Rhinoplasty (or "nose job"): Reshaping of the nose
* Otoplasty (or ear surgery): Reshaping of the ear
* Rhytidectomy (or "face lift"): Removal of wrinkles and signs of aging from the face
* Suction-Assisted Lipectomy (or liposuction): Removal of fat from the body
* Chin augmentation: Augmentation of the chin with an implant (e.g. silicone) or by sliding genioplasty of the jawbone.
* Cheek augmentation
* Collagen, fat, and other tissue filler injections (eg hyaluronic acid)
* Laser skin resurfacing
* Injection of dermal fillers (collagen, hyaluronic acid, fat, and others)

Well damn, generic here just outsmarted everyone in this thread. My hat off to you, sir.

I'm really suprised i got to it first.

It's one of my answers for anything.

tell everybody shes foreign

Indeed. Her attitude, behaviour and personality will affect the way she looks in the dress.

Wait about 3 or 4 years?

Wait about 3 or 4 years?

This.

there are some girls out there that could be fine as hell but aren't because of how they present themselves....

these girls make me sad :(

You're doing it wrong, those girls are hidden gold.

You pick them up, shape them into whatever you want them to be, -> Profit!

It's like investing into property. Of course, you can spend a lot on a presentable property, but if you can't afford it, you can always get a nice property in a promising location, develop it, and end up with something better than the above expensive property.

Is it just me or has this thread turned into all those shitty teenage chick flicks which has a nerdy looking chick under go a make over and suddenly becomes one of the hottest chicks alive?

Yes, that's exactly what this thread has become.

And in fact, this thread is really useless without pics.

Also, to the OP: are you trying to Reinvent Yourself?

The OP needs to get it on film where she comes down the stairs looking super fine, starting from the feet and moving slowly up to the face.

How about a cute sixpence none the richer tune in the background?

Anyways, work out. Seriously, 90% of girls can get a killer body from just working out, tightening up, get rid of fat tubbo.

After that, get some sorta makeover, a nice hairdo, get someone to help with make up, go out shopping for nice clothes, bring a stylist or a friend who knows fashion and good looks.

If the girl is in fact average, she can get far. If she's ugly, she can almost reach average.

I really hate this 1-10 rating crap. Get over yourselves and grow up.

'Ohhh OMG I got t3h Base 2 with a 8-9 girl!!11'

Sorry but men date women not fucking equations.

I can't fuckin' believe how many TotSEans have cited She's All That, in the time I've been on this site.

I, for one, am all for it. Call me a fuckin' homo, but I love that movie -- and I would fuck the living shit out of Rachel Leigh Cook.
Maybe it's 'cos it was the first movie I saw in a theatre (my oldest sister took me, lol. ^_^)

I thought Not Another Teen Movie was pretty funny.

You're doing it wrong, those girls are hidden gold.

You pick them up, shape them into whatever you want them to be, -> Profit!

It's like investing into property. Of course, you can spend a lot on a presentable property, but if you can't afford it, you can always get a nice property in a promising location, develop it, and end up with something better than the above expensive property.

I'll continue with your analogy by saying that when the government uses eminent domain against your property is when she develops ridiculous self-confidence by all the guys that are now hitting on her, and she gets rid of you, the guy who couldn't get her how she is now.

I really hate this 1-10 rating crap. Get over yourselves and grow up.

'Ohhh OMG I got t3h Base 2 with a 8-9 girl!!11'

Sorry but men date women not fucking equations.

You mind getting off your high horse and giving us a better system for concisely summarizing a woman's physical attractiveness? Or do you think a female's physical aspects are of so little value to a man that they feel no desire to quantify it?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_surgery), and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_implants), and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_tanning).

This girl I used to be with was a slut, around 6 or 7.

she looked GREAT with her hair down, and even in certain shirts she looked like a 8-9. but she very rarely did it. I was too awkward to say anything so I had to deal wit h this hoe.

Or do you think a female's physical aspects are of so little value to a man that they feel no desire to quantify it?

Boys feel the need to quantify it, men don't.

If she isn't the most beautiful woman in the world then I don't find her attractive.

...you can dress up and try to pour classyness onto a pig and i'll still be a pig...

Lol you're a pig.

Good presentation and body language never hurt anyone. Also, this thread is lame.

Lol you're a pig.

Good presentation and body language never hurt anyone. Also, this thread is lame.

Got me there.

True enough, the prettiest girl can be incredibly unattractive by being too coarse/stupid as all hell/a bitch/portraying herself as a slut, or just plain not caring about herself.

Indeed. Her attitude, behaviour and personality will affect the way she looks in the dress.

Lol, I was going to post a reply to the same shit and decided not to waste my time. Then saw this and had to quote it :P

I'm really suprised i got to it first.

It's one of my answers for anything.

it's odd, because that's what i thought this thread was about before i clicked it.

Honestly, I don't rate girls. For me, it just goes Ugly, Plain, Attractive, Gorgeous. You can't make someone gorgeous that isn't gorgeous. You can, however, make a person who is plan attractive, and you can make someone who is attractive more attractive, but you can't make someone who is ugly anything but.

You should give more incite on what you think a 9 or 10 is. A 7 to me may be a 9 to you or a 4 to you.

Let down the hair, take of the glasses, remove the paint stained pants.

you can't polish a turd.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.

fixed.

People feel the need to be quantitative about everything. It's nonsense.

Human nature to try and organize/categorize everything, I see where it comes from, don't necessarily agree, but meh, I just think that extra bit less of anyone who more than casually uses it.

Average is 5.

Average is 5.

The scale is not necessarily linear. In fact, it's asymptotic, and only makes sense with the high values, not the low ones.

E.g. Anyone here understands what's the difference between a 7, an 8 and a 9 is, but I'd bet not many of you differentiate between a 1,2, a 3 a 4 and a 5. Simply because if it's below 7, nobody cares anymore.

How to get an average looking bitch look like a 9 or 10?

Well, with enough alcohol... anything is possible.

...but seriously... premium vodka is a tasty solution.