So basically, I have a close friend called N. She goes to an all girls school and I have been talking to a girl from her class via MSN. I know N really well, But this other girl I have never met. But our conversations are filled with Sexual Innuendo and we have discussed our feelings about sex. "Whats the big deal? Its just sex"

Well, She said she was going to prove how good she is at head... And how we should totally meet up and just mess about. Well she keeps asking, and she text me this morning asking me if I had thought of anywhere. I said how I'm into the photography of abandoned buildings and how exciting it is,

She suggested we meet at my house as theres always people at hers, but for similar reasons my house was out of the question. So I suggested somewhere more "adventurous"... Basically, an abandoned building. I'm thinking either this old nightclub or house.

What with it being winter and dark, and most likely meeting her after school... We're talking about meeting in the dark. Most likely at the train station and walking a bit. So sounds fun and easy? Perfect, eh?

Or not. Basically my morals are a bit mixed about this. "Its just sex" and stuff, BUT - I feel like I'm taking advantage of her. [But I must stress, Shes initiated this...] Also, She seems to be under the impression that I'm a bit of a "manwhore" - But im not.

Also, My foreskin is tight, so head is out of the question - and thats one thing she wants to proof her abilities on. And I cant just say "Oh, No head please - Phimosis is a bitch" - Can I?! Talk about a mood killer.

Basically my plan to get around that is to go down on her, before she goes down on me... Like a race. :P Then maybe suggest going further when shes ready.. if she wants.

Im not the most experianced of guys - so maybe thats my nerves and moral queries. So I really should be jumping at this, its easy, no-strings and fun! We both feel the same.. Where's the problem totse?!?

I don't get it... How can you have sex with her, but not be able to get head from her?

It sounds like she knows what's going on and is just looking for some fun, so what's wrong? It's not like you're misleading her and making her think you want a relationship when you really don't. Right?

I have tight foreskin, So I dont want head. But shes all like "Oooh.. Im gonna prove to you how good I am at it".

Apart from that - You're right. We're both clear that we just want some fun.

I have tight foreskin, So I dont want head. But shes all like "Oooh.. Im gonna prove to you how good I am at it".

Apart from that - You're right. We're both clear that we just want some fun.

Yes, but what does having a tight foreskin have to do with not wanting head? And how do you plan on having sex with her if you can't even handle getting head?

Yes, but what does having a tight foreskin have to do with not wanting head? And how do you plan on having sex with her if you can't even handle getting head?

If I have tight foreskin, Theres no sensation from head. Like none.. It's just a waste of time.

But sex is still enjoyable. Its not a case of "you can't handle getting head".

I know from previous discussions that she doesn't *like* giving head - but then she asks me if I'd a girl was to spit and not swallow. I was like "No - Her choice.." and she said "Oh.. Good.". :/

If I have tight foreskin, Theres no sensation from head. Like none.. It's just a waste of time.

But sex is still enjoyable. Its not a case of "you can't handle getting head".

I know from previous discussions that she doesn't *like* giving head - but then she asks me if I'd a girl was to spit and not swallow. I was like "No - Her choice.." and she said "Oh.. Good.". :/

maybe you've just never gotten good head.

If I have tight foreskin, Theres no sensation from head. Like none.. It's just a waste of time.

But sex is still enjoyable. Its not a case of "you can't handle getting head".

I know from previous discussions that she doesn't *like* giving head - but then she asks me if I'd a girl was to spit and not swallow. I was like "No - Her choice.." and she said "Oh.. Good.". :/

Oh, ok. I still don't understand how that works, but whatever.

Have fun, use protection, blah blah blah...

maybe you've just never gotten good head.

How does that stop my foreskin from retracting properly? If you dont understand this then look up Phimosis - Its tight foreskin, and its been discussed here A LOAD of times.

Basically, If I have sex I still have her whole body up against me, I have a rubbing sensation along the front of my penis [which is sensitive] and it will still feel good.

If I get head, then I just have her mouth going over skin.. Thats all it is.

How does that stop my foreskin from retracting properly? If you dont understand this then look up Phimosis

Self-circumcision is the answer. Post pics.

Self-circumcision is the answer. Post pics.

haha, In my most desperate of times I have looked around to see if its possible. Apparently you can get these clips that you clip on now.. O_o

Back on topic though... ;)

Don't worry about it, and go for it. Tight foreskin isn't that big a problem, you're both young and want the same thing. You worrying about it is probably due to general anxiety. Go for it.

seems like you don't understand. He has gotten head before and it doesn't do anything for him. I doubt I'd want someone to give me head if my foreskin wouldn't retract, that would just blow, i mean suck, i mean uh you get it.

at any rate your idea sounds solid enough, you should have just told her you don't like getting head in the first place.

seems like you don't understand. He has gotten head before and it doesn't do anything for him. I doubt I'd want someone to give me head if my foreskin wouldn't retract, that would just blow, i mean suck, i mean uh you get it.

at any rate your idea sounds solid enough, you should have just told her you don't like getting head in the first place.

I think Zonko means anxiety in general - Which he'd be right! I am a bit worried!

Hopefully my plan is workable, The reason I didnt tell her is because I didn't think she'd end up telling me she was going to give it to me. I've told her "I dont really like it" and made up some stupid excuse. But Im worried shes gonna say something like "Ohh.. Sounds like you just need the right girl doing it" and turn it into some challenge. :(

So wait.. She agreed to meet up with a guy she's never met, at night, go with him to an abandoned building, and have sex with him there?

wait, what? when I'm hard my foreskin covers my head completely. When erect I can pull it back enough so the entire head is exposed but no further, and I have to hold it in place or it will slowly slide back up.

Does this mean there is something wrong with it?:/

yeah me too! someone explain this to us!

haha, In my most desperate of times I have looked around to see if its possible. Apparently you can get these clips that you clip on now.. O_o

~blinks~

You have successfully expanded my mind, and I will never be the same again...

...if I don't post for a while, it's 'cause I had to have a "reintegration period" from this experience... ;)

Mine usually stays in place. Actually, if I can get hard/big enough it will sometimes pull the foreskin back so far that it looks like I'm circumcised, but I'm not.

You non circumsized people have it fucking bad!

Huh, I thought I had tight foreskin but I guess not. When really hard it just slides down and you can't tell I'm not circumcised, and when I try to push it back up it will roll down anyway.

I'm really close friends with her friend - so she knows I'm ok.

We agreed to meet to mess about, but as our houses are normally always busy I suggested an abandoned building - "For the added thrill".

That combined with the fact its winter - So dark early, and its gonna be late afternoon thats the only time we can meet..

Look guys, The right at the top of the foreskin is tight - I'll go to the doctors about it soon as its uber-tight. Theres varying degrees of Phimosis. But mine doesn't want to a budge at all - the little bastard. But thats not the topic of this thread...

This thread has turned into "Our dicks are okay...right?"

Not that that's bad.

Lol. Thats actually a fairly decent summary of it! Its exactly what I don't want guys though!

Im looking for advice on meeting her, any "tricks" to keep her happy.. That kind of thing! :)

But thats not the topic of this thread...

And a good thing that, eh?

'cause this is pretty much just a troll thread anyway!

If you don't do it you'll regret it. Morals are overrated, and later in life you'll probably see how valuable experiences like that are. It's a lot better to sit back on the train one day on the way to the job you hate and think «Oh yeah, that time with that chick in the abandoned building ...» instead of «Why the fuck didn't I hit that?!»

And regarding the phimosis: Just tell her. If she's like «WTF, I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole!», be like «No, no, no, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, I jost won't get any sensation from it if you give me head. I'll still be able to fuck you until your eyes water with happieness, and it will feel pretty good for me too» or something. She's going to find out anyway.

Tho, she may turn up with 10 nigras ready to assrape you.

And try not to get AIDS.

'cause this is pretty much just a troll thread anyway!

No it's not. I like this thread.


I didn't give any advice earlier but heres some now I guess. Listen to Akhkharu. Regret NOTHING. If you think you'll regret not doing it... FUCKING DO IT! That's how I try to live anyways.

Oh and I don't see where morals come into play here. Now, if it was going to be an issue or something with the friend you met her through, or you were going to cheat or something then yeah I can see what you mean by trying to remain somewhat moral. But I think that's the last thing you need to worry about bro.

My advice is to just keep talking her up, tell her all the shit you're going to do to her and what you want her to do to you and when the time comes and she sees your unfamiliar, strange penis just tell her that it doesn't matter. Honestly, why even bring it up? What you should do is let her give you head for a while and then (even though you won't cum, she doesn't know that) command her to get down on all fours or something and just fuck the girls brains out.

Honestly I just think it shouldn't be an issue at all.

You're a fool for not wanting to get sucked. I'm sure even with a tight foreskin you can still feel her tongue on your shaft. Hell, even get that tongue inside the foreskin. Don't be a fool and neglect yourself because of some issue with your wrap around.

Advice: Keep inside of your foreskin CLEAN

Very very very important!

Summary of all other advice: do it already.

It's better to regret something you did than to regret something you didn't do.

Mine usually stays in place. Actually, if I can get hard/big enough it will sometimes pull the foreskin back so far that it looks like I'm circumcised, but I'm not.

hang on, so what's the problem? doesn't soung like you have...phimosis...at all.

Why can't you just pull the foreskin back when you get hard then have her give you head?

I think phimosis is when you can never pull it back, when it starts fusing with the glans.

Is the reason you don't want her to give you head really because you wont feel any sensation, or is it because your embarrassed about having phimosis? If it appears that shes looking to go all the way, you could just go down on her first and then slide it in once your done. If it doesn't look like there is sex in your future, you could always just say you really like handjobs or something like that.

Circumcision is not that complex of a surgery...save up, wait...and then get head.

Hey thanks guys! Yeah - I will go for it.

Basically as shes traveling to see me (Just for 10 minutes, But its still an excuse) I said I'd make it up to her. Talking to her she is "up for anything" and mentioned sex (Infact, she hasnt mentioned head in a little while...) and all - so its not gonna be a problem at all.

As alot of you were saying - Im just gonna regret it if I don't do it.

I feel a little rude not replying to each post - But I've read them all and theres some good advice! So thanks again!

Is the reason you don't want her to give you head really because you wont feel any sensation, or is it because your embarrassed about having phimosis? If it appears that shes looking to go all the way, you could just go down on her first and then slide it in once your done. If it doesn't look like there is sex in your future, you could always just say you really like handjobs or something like that.

I think its because I wont feel any sensation *aswell* as a little embarassment. However - My plan is pretty much as you say. (Go down on her (As my method of making the travel up to her..), Then come up and whisper something in her ear about going in.)

Hey thanks guys! Yeah - I will go for it.

Basically as shes traveling to see me (Just for 10 minutes, But its still an excuse) I said I'd make it up to her. Talking to her she is "up for anything" and mentioned sex (Infact, she hasnt mentioned head in a little while...) and all - so its not gonna be a problem at all.

As alot of you were saying - Im just gonna regret it if I don't do it.

I feel a little rude not replying to each post - But I've read them all and theres some good advice! So thanks again!



I think its because I wont feel any sensation *aswell* as a little embarassment. However - My plan is pretty much as you say. (Go down on her (As my method of making the travel up to her..), Then come up and whisper something in her ear about going in.)

Nah, if you are eating her out she will tell YOU when she wants you to put it in. I doubt she is even going to be comfortable with you eating her out though.

I wouldn't even try it. I would just suggest a lot of foreplay with a lot of petting, so she is good and wet when you are ready to fuck her. Dry pussy is not fun for either party.

I doubt she is even going to be comfortable with you eating her out though..

As I understand it the whole point of the meeting is messing around. I'm sure she will be fine with it, I've never met a girl who didn't like to be gone down on.

Hey let's not answer me

hang on, so what's the problem? doesn't soung like you have...phimosis...at all.

Why can't you just pull the foreskin back when you get hard then have her give you head?

I think phimosis is when you can never pull it back, when it starts fusing with the glans.

Check who you quoted, and who the OP is.

Check who you quoted, and who the OP is.

Oh, right...err....whoops.

As I understand it the whole point of the meeting is messing around. I'm sure she will be fine with it, I've never met a girl who didn't like to be gone down on.

Yeah, She's said shes up for anything... :D

OP, can you pull it back when you're not hard? Why don't you just do that before hand?

hang on, so what's the problem? doesn't soung like you have...phimosis...at all.

Why can't you just pull the foreskin back when you get hard then have her give you head?

I think phimosis is when you can never pull it back, when it starts fusing with the glans.

Im not the OP.

As I understand it the whole point of the meeting is messing around. I'm sure she will be fine with it, I've never met a girl who didn't like to be gone down on.

Most girls that "don't know what they're doing" aren't very comfortable with getting their pussy ate.

Most girls that "don't know what they're doing" aren't very comfortable with getting their pussy ate.

I guess I'm just a sucker for the hussies then.

I guess I'm just a sucker for the hussies then.

Probably.

Well, She said shes pretty much up for anything. So we shall see...

Need a few ideas incase shes not up for it, I suppose.

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If things go wrong, do this: http://www.bash.org/?827518

My entire life I've been completely on the fence in regard to the issue of circumsission. After reading this thread, not any more. I am now profoundly thankful that I'm cut, and we cut both of our sons. Hearing all of the troubles/maintenance some of you are describing in regard to your foreskin is just amazing. All of this pulling, tugging, stretching, etc......christ, you all sound like a bunch of bitches having to put that much effort and care into something....as if you are tending to a garden or doing needlepoint.

One of the few times in my life I'll utter these words...."Thanks Mom and Dad!"

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I can't. Even if I could that is a good way to injure yourself as it can restrict blood flow to the glans. There is a medical term if you google about it - But that isnt the point of this thread.

DaGuru: It's not *that* common. I still think it should be down to the person. But can we please leave this subject alone - as this thread is about alot more then just foreskin.

DaGuru: It's not *that* common. I still think it should be down to the person. But can we please leave this subject alone - as this thread is about alot more then just foreskin.


Well in regard to the rest of your scenario, something struck me when reading it. Sometimes things are just too good to be true. For whatever reason she might be setting you up. Maybe just to give you herpes, maybe she has some friends ready to rob your ass, perhaps its any game she is playing. This just don't sound right to me....its TOO easy. And if it is legit, then stop beating yourself with all of those morality issues. She wants cock, you have one, enjoy....its that simple.

Well in regard to the rest of your scenario, something struck me when reading it. Sometimes things are just too good to be true. For whatever reason she might be setting you up. Maybe just to give you herpes, maybe she has some friends ready to rob your ass, perhaps its any game she is playing. This just don't sound right to me....its TOO easy. And if it is legit, then stop beating yourself with all of those morality issues. She wants cock, you have one, enjoy....its that simple.

I had this same thought! But the train station is by a friends house.. As in he can watch out his window, Thats how close.

She doesn't know exactly where we're going and which route I'm taking. Plus, Im normally pretty good with my situational awareness... So I don't think an attack/rob would be too much difficulty for me.

But she has started to talk as if she's fallen for me. Then shes speaking about how I'm "all hers".. So that makes a little more sense. To be honest - I can see myself feeling the same. But lets just see how that goes... [Note: When I made this thread she wasn't like that, its really recent that shes been like this..]

ALSO, She has given me a map to her house, Which combined with a picture she took in her garden a few weeks ago, all adds up. (I just checked Google Earth and theres a chimney in the right position) I know certain clubs she belongs too, Her school, Her class, Her friends, I have links to her.. If she done anything it'd be all to easy to get her back. Plus shes looking to get involved with my group of friends..

I just tell uncircumcised guys to go play with their flaps.

I can't. Even if I could that is a good way to injure yourself as it can restrict blood flow to the glans. There is a medical term if you google about it - But that isnt the point of this thread.

DaGuru: It's not *that* common. I still think it should be down to the person. But can we please leave this subject alone - as this thread is about alot more then just foreskin.

Actually it's pretty fucking common among uncut guys.

I just tell uncircumcised guys to go play with their flaps.

Actually it's pretty fucking common among uncut guys.

I admit, I lolled at the flaps comment. I wont argue, as I think you gave me some pretty sound advice in this thread or my friendship related one. But I am trying to steer this topic off of the subject of foreskin. [Hell, It was even in bold on that quote you made...]

So mainly now I'm looking for tips and tricks to make it fun, stuff she'll enjoy.. etc.