For starters: Both virgins, dating for a year (yes, that fucking long). High school, both 17.

She refuses. I got into a big argument with her yesterday (the day before the big-365). How she never did what "I wanted". Which is true. She just refuses, saying that she keeps needing "time".

She promised to do it within a week like four times, and it never happened, and then claims that I had no reason to be mad (that I wasn't justified). So naturally I got fucking furious. (And it's more about the fact that she SAID she would go down rather than if she did or didn't).

In the end, I gave up. I just stopped caring. It came down to this:
We have to change. I have to stop asking her to do it, and she has to overcome *something* (which I told her to "hurry" in doing so), and she'll do it when she's "ready". WTF.

My two questions to you:

1) Do you think I was justified in being angry because my girlfriend didn't do something she said she would (because she "changed her mind without telling me"... four times)?

2)How long do you think it'll take (if ever, for fucks sake) my girlfriend to be ready to give me head?

Do you guys have sex?

If you do and she isn't going down, she's being a prude bitch.

If you aren't having sex, don't rush her. Women need time to get ready for all things sexual. Just be comforting and seductive.

Or just get the bitch drunk.

If you weren't such a selfish bastard and would have given her head by now, then she would do it to you too.

Okay I just got head (and kissed and jerked off and fingered a girl, lots of stuff fast really) for the first time today. I feel happy.

But what worked for me was fingering her until she came and then she really wanted to return the favor, and maybe even felt like she owed me a little. Bingo. That's it. And I'm not even good with girls.

So help her out first; maybe that'll work. You scratch her back; she scratchs yours.

this. yes.

After all the stuff I've done for her? Endless hours spent driving her places, spending money on gifts, and food?

I can't finger a girl worth shit, and I can admit that. I end up hurting her every time, as much as I try.

And as for the whole me going down thing, I asked her about that already. Well, before this last fight. And she said that she didn't want to seem like a hypocrite, so she wouldn't let me?

I mean I think this is fucking crazy. She shouldn't need time to think, I gave her weeks upon weeks before of not saying ANYTHING. Ugh.

Goddamn hormones.

lol. a guy that can't finger a girl? look. i'm going to help you out. start by rubbing her back slowly, up and down. then move your arm to under her armpit, and rub her up and down, and move your hand forward so that its almost underneath her boob. do this while making out with her. then with your other hand, start rubbing the inside of her thigh, up and down, and don't press to hard. then start kissing her neck, and pay attention to her breathing. if she starts taking in staggerd breaths, then thats a good thing. or if she gasps, another good thing. then with your thigh hand, slowly and gently start rubbing it on her pubic mound. and don't press hard. then start rubbing her boob with your "back" hand. then reach underneath her shirt.. etc. stop thinking about yourself and what you want. get her hella horny, and then she'll want it. you give it, then she'll give it.

I can't finger a girl worth shit, and I can admit that. I end up hurting her every time, as much as I try.

lol, I was so worried about this and maybe not having it work at all. So, do what I did: "does that feel good?". Have her provide feedback, helps you make her feel better, does it not? How are you supposed to know what feels good/bad if you don't ask?

EDIT: had to look up what a pubic mound was ricehunter.

EDIT 2: I have much to learn...

Fingering is the easiest shit you can do. Start off with index and middle finger and just go for it. Thumb should be stimulating the clit.

When you've got that down, use your middle and ring finger. They're slightly longer, so it's a bit better. Also keep stimulating the clit with the thumb

oh. sorry... to put it in laymans terms... that little hill where girls trim their pussy hair all nice.

Ditch that stupid bitch.

I'm thinking of refusing to go to her house to "watch" a movie after we go out for dinner on Saturday (again, the whole one-year thing)...

The reason?

She'd make me so sexually aroused that I might accidentally "ask" for something I was told specifically not to.

That might piss her off, or make her reconsider it. And I'm leaning towards the latter, because she LOVES to make out (and hates her soaked panties).

panties don't get soaked if she's not wearing any.... if i were you i would just be patient. she's 17, and not a whore. that's pretty rare these days.

Dude just wait it out, dont force her. Thats never going to work. Asking her over and over will never get her to do it to you. Just give it time and make her happy eventually she will want to give it to you. You still never said if youre having sex or not, or maybe i just missed it. But dont be a douche and make a big deal by not going out and having fun with her. Thats not the way at all, just give her time and she will want to do it, trust me i know i went through the same thing.

To those who say "wait it out".

He's been waiting for a year. A year of his life that could have been spent out fucking women that don't pull this kind of bullshit. It's time for her to shape up or get the fuck out.

*sigh* another cock teaser?




1) Do you think I was justified in being angry because my girlfriend didn't do something she said she would (because she "changed her mind without telling me"... four times)?
Eat her out, THEN bitch about it if she don't give you a head.

however, I'd be pissed if my girl changes her mind too much. it's either she's ready or it's dumping time.

2)How long do you think it'll take (if ever, for fucks sake) my girlfriend to be ready to give me head? At this rate...never.

my advice; eat her out for an experiences(it's always good to have some experiences under your belt anyway). then dump her for not being comfortable with you for YEAR, not just because she won't give you a head.

I fapped.

I just loved the bit where you mentioned the "pubic mound"...Got me so hot!

Listen to this guy. Do that. Don't do it because you want to get head in return though. You should just do it because you want to pleasure your lady. You bitch about her not wanting to suck you off, but it doesn't sound like you're trying too hard to go down on her. She said she didn't want to be a hypocrite, but that's retarded and you should have told her so. Let her know that you want to do it just because you do. And don't be lying when you say that. If it would be a lie and you genuinely don't want to give your girlfriend pleasure just to see her happy, you might start considering that maybe there's a problem in this relationship.

I always make my girl suck me off a little to get things going before we beat. She doesnt like me fingering her or eating her out, she just wants to fuck and she's always rolling her eyes when I make her give me dome before we fuck. But damn she gives that bomb head, like it feels like im in her pussy when shes going at it...so good.

I didn't have oral sex with my husband until a year after we were married.

You shameless Hussy!

:p

I repented for days afterwards.:P

We have to change. I have to stop asking her to do it, and she has to overcome *something* (which I told her to "hurry" in doing so), and she'll do it when she's "ready". WTF.


"How dare she want to wait until she's ready! I'm ready now! She has to hurry up and change to suit what I want!"

If you think you're somehow entitled to sexual favors because you buy her things/take her places, then you're a dumbass. She's your girlfriend; people do shit like that for each other. Stop treating her like she's a prostitute, show some respect for her and how she feels, and maybe she'll actually *want* to suck you off. It's no wonder she doesn't want to let you go down on her - she probably thinks you only want to because then she'll "have to" return the favor. Either grow up and show her some respect, or admit that you don't really give a shit about how she feels and part ways.

"How dare she want to wait until she's ready! I'm ready now! She has to hurry up and change to suit what I want!"

If you think you're somehow entitled to sexual favors because you buy her things/take her places, then you're a dumbass. She's your girlfriend; people do shit like that for each other. Stop treating her like she's a prostitute, show some respect for her and how she feels, and maybe she'll actually *want* to suck you off. It's no wonder she doesn't want to let you go down on her - she probably thinks you only want to because then she'll "have to" return the favor. Either grow up and show her some respect, or admit that you don't really give a shit about how she feels and part ways.

QFMFT!

And anyone that "doesn't know how to finger a girl".....doesn't deserve even a cookie after dinner, much less a blowjob. Seriously, how can you be "hurting" her just with your fingers unless you are raping or molesting an unwilling victim? OP, you fail at life.

Just cos you were on your knees don't mean you were repenting.

Although if he calls it that then thats ok I guess.

Oh... ooooh yeah... gimmie another paragraph, bitch!!

It's not my story, but a popular one all the same, do this for teh lulz.

Otherwise, I agree with going down on her/learn how to finger her first before you 'ask' for anything.

WHEN GIRLS DON'T PUT OUT


One evening last week, my girlfriend and I were getting into bed.

Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says, "I don't feel like
it, I just want you to hold me."

I said, "WHAT??!! What was that?!"

So she says the words that every boyfriend on the planet dreads to hear...

"You're just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man."

She responded to my puzzled look by saying, "Can't you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?"

Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night, I went to sleep.

The very next day I opted to take the day off of work to spend time with her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big, big unnamed department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She couldn't decide which one to take, so I told her we'd just buy them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said, "Lets get a pair for each outfit."

We went on to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. Let me tell you... she was so excited. She must have thought I was one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn't even know how to play tennis.

I think I threw her for a loop when I said, "That's fine, honey." She was almost nearing sexual satisfaction from all of the excitement. Smiling with excited anticipation, she finally said, "I think this is all dear, let's go to the cashier."

I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, "No honey, I don't feel like it."

Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled, "WHAT?"

I then said, "Honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for a while. You're just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman."

And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added, "Why can't you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?"

Apparently I'm not having sex tonight either....but at least that b!t*h knows I'm smarter than her.

There's no special time frame.

When she wants to do it, she will.

Badgering her about it obviously isn't helping anything.

Pure awesome.

HAHAHHAHAHA

Pure awesome.

This. :D

"How dare she want to wait until she's ready! I'm ready now! She has to hurry up and change to suit what I want!"

If you think you're somehow entitled to sexual favors because you buy her things/take her places, then you're a dumbass. She's your girlfriend; people do shit like that for each other. Stop treating her like she's a prostitute, show some respect for her and how she feels, and maybe she'll actually *want* to suck you off. It's no wonder she doesn't want to let you go down on her - she probably thinks you only want to because then she'll "have to" return the favor. Either grow up and show her some respect, or admit that you don't really give a shit about how she feels and part ways.

You're a punk if you think buying girls shit and taking her places doesnt earn you some dome action. Shit I wouldn't even buy a bitch anything if I wasnt getting anything sexual from her. Even then only on her birthday, christmas, valentines etc.

You're a punk if you think buying girls shit and taking her places doesnt earn you some dome action. Shit I wouldn't even buy a bitch anything if I wasnt getting anything sexual from her. Even then only on her birthday, christmas, valentines etc.

She doesn't owe you shit you prick, sex with a girl is a privilege, not a right. It's her body, not yours. Fool.

She doesn't owe you shit you prick, sex with a girl is a privilege, not a right. It's her body, not yours. Fool.

But she's your fucking woman. I couldn't imagine being with a girl that won't put out. And ya if I'm taking her out to dinner we better be beatin guts later.

It can get a bit annoying when you're already sporting wood and she won't do anything, but in all reality, the annoyance should wear off.

Did you never get any action?

After a year, I can understand being a bit impatient, but being pissed off outright, you're probably going a bit far.

I dunno how long it will take. Don't keep asking outright. If you ever do the whole dirty-talk/phone sex thing, bring it up while you're describing things you want to happen. She'll at least gain a small amount of comfort with it if suggested in such a situation, rather than saying "Yo, bitch, suck my cock." (No, i'm not suggesting you used this method, but you get my point) If she never becomes comfortable to the point of doing so, so be it. Some girls will put out without going down on a guy.

all i have to contribute to this thread is.... modest mouse kicks ass

After all the stuff I've done for her? Endless hours spent driving her places, spending money on gifts, and food?

*sighs*

I'm no expert myself, but I can tell you have much to learn.

edit: To be honest, if I had been in a relationship that long and had no physical gratification out of it, I'd just pull the plug on it.

I fapped.

I just loved the bit where you mentioned the "pubic mound"...Got me so hot!



Dang, i didn't know my description was so vivid. But seriously, the kid has to learn how to use his imagination. Girls are people to, they gotta be coerced, lol. Naw, j/k

But on a more serious note...

...you have to realize that she has her own wants and desires, and maybe in this case, even morals. I don't know how old you are, but if you are in a relationship for sexual gratification, then i would move on. Unless you're fat, i'm sure lots of girls are looking for a "friend with benefits." IF you're looking for some marriage material, i'd be patient. Oh, and i'm guessing you're fairly young; 15-17, if you still think a year is really that long. but anyways...

And if you think she's not horny or w/e, you're prob wrong. Girls are that age are typically more horny than guys, they're just more shy about it. So play your cards right and rub her the right way.

Another thing you could try is being more emotionally detached, and start giving some other girls some attention. She'll notice REAL QUICK and try to hold on to you and bring attention back to her in some ways. wink wink


but yeah. we need an update

Pull out all the stops and make a last ditch effort before you pull the plug. Get yourself all groomed up and looking good, then take her out for a nice dinner and some kind of activity. Don't even hint toward sex during this time. Take her back home with you and kick back with a movie (that she picks out). Do your best to be that kind of non-sexual romantic that they see in movies. When the time is right, get her crazy horny. Do whatever it fucking takes to get her hot. If she still won't do SOMETHING, dump her ass right there. Stand up and kick her the fuck out without a ride home or anything. Make the bitch walk.

But she's your fucking woman. I couldn't imagine being with a girl that won't put out. And ya if I'm taking her out to dinner we better be beatin guts later.

*sigh*

You don't own her, dumbass. She CHOOSES to be with you, she doesn't owe you anything for it that she doesn't want to do.

Along the same line, you're HER man. You have to put out to her and do to her whatever she wants, whenever she wants, or there's gonna be trouble. If she makes you breakfast/lunch/etc. it's expected that you HAVE to put out for it, no exceptions, every time, no matter if you've had a shit day, really aren't in the mood because you mother died, or any other reason. Sound good?

*sigh*

You don't own her, dumbass. She CHOOSES to be with you, she doesn't owe you anything for it that she doesn't want to do.

Along the same line, you're HER man. You have to put out to her and do to her whatever she wants, whenever she wants, or there's gonna be trouble. If she makes you breakfast/lunch/etc. it's expected that you HAVE to put out for it, no exceptions, every time, no matter if you've had a shit day, really aren't in the mood because you mother died, or any other reason. Sound good?

exactly, at least not every guy here shows a chauvinist attitude. She doesn't owe you anything, it is her body and she can do what she wants with it.

OP you're just young and immature, if you don't want to be in a relationship just because the girl wont give you head then you have a lot of growing up to do. Relationships are not about sex or sexual acts. You're supposed to enjoying being with the girl and hanging out. you don't just do it because you want to get laid or blown later that night. It is better to realize this now then later. If you dump this girl because she wont blow you, and go off to find another one, I can almost guarantee that you will get over the wow of being blown by this new girl and miss the fun times you had with the old one. Its just a blow job, its not worth the big fuss you're making out of it.

OP you're just young and immature, if you don't want to be in a relationship just because the girl wont give you head then you have a lot of growing up to do. Relationships are not about sex or sexual acts. You're supposed to enjoying being with the girl and hanging out. you don't just do it because you want to get laid or blown later that night.

Sex is an integral part to any romantic relationship, there is a reason we become interested in girls at a certain stage in life, when we were still perfectly happy hanging out with guys and cracking jokes and playing videogames and shit with other males.

The whole reason behind having a girlfriend, ie a girl that is also a friend, is so you can enjoy one more of the delights we have as being social human critters, that you have hopefully no desire to fulfill with other men.

If after an entire year this girl will not even have sex with you she is either A. using you for companionship despite a complete lack of attraction to you or B. cheating on you, or C. is a stuck up religious fascist that needs to grow up and stop having imaginary friends.

All three of these warrant a prompt dumping.

*sigh*

You don't own her, dumbass. She CHOOSES to be with you, she doesn't owe you anything for it that she doesn't want to do.

Along the same line, you're HER man. You have to put out to her and do to her whatever she wants, whenever she wants, or there's gonna be trouble. If she makes you breakfast/lunch/etc. it's expected that you HAVE to put out for it, no exceptions, every time, no matter if you've had a shit day, really aren't in the mood because you mother died, or any other reason. Sound good?

Ya pussy I'm also down to beat. And anyway she's not gonna be demanding shit she's the woman in the relationship. She's i guess old fashioned like that how she pretty much does whatever I say, you know, within reason.

Ya pussy I'm also down to beat. And anyway she's not gonna be demanding shit she's the woman in the relationship. She's i guess old fashioned like that how she pretty much does whatever I say, you know, within reason.

Wow, I'm not even gonna bother with this one anymore, just wow.

Wow, I'm not even gonna bother with this one anymore, just wow.

Me neither I just realized you're Canadian shitpacker with a micropenis.

Me neither I just realized you're Canadian shitpacker with a micropenis.

*sigh* If I were a mod...

Ok, so a woman is a lower being to you?

*sigh* If I were a mod...

Ok, so a woman is a lower being to you?

Maybe a little, yes.

Maybe a little, yes.

Alright, do you mind asking me why you think that?

Logical advice works. None of this "what is your girlfriend worth" fucking bullshit. Logical, applicable advice.

It's come down to this: I give head first, then her. Simple.

Sometimes the most obvious solution is the most oblivious. :D

If you see this much selfishness and lack of open communication, it's pretty much guaranteed this one's gonna fail. Resentment builds, then is released. End.

He's already tried that. Hypocrite?

She's not going to change after a year. Tell her it was great, but it isn't working, dump her and find someone who'll satisfy your needs better. She'll find someone else that won't ask her to do things she won't want to do.